Misubishi Motor Corp (MMC) is dying.... [Renamed]

[airshaq20]

Mitsubishi's image and sales figure in the States is going down every year and with numerous recalls and quality issues.

Check out 2003 JD Powers rating for popular mitsubishi models:
http://www.mitsubishisucks.com/cars/...jd-power/2003/

Their 2004 restructuring:
http://www.mitsubishisucks.com/news/japan/motors/

26 Coverups to avoid recalls:
http://www.atsnn.com/story/55681.html

11,000 layoffs
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5030063/


Evo's poor crash test result
http://www.mitsubishisucks.com/cars/...de-impact.html


Im not sure if this is a mitsu hate page but seems like the articles are based from facts and was compiled at this page:
http://www.mitsubishisucks.com/

[ILuvDetailing]

Should Mitsubishi car owners / prospective buyers be warry of parts availability for their vehicles?

[airshaq20]

There's always aftermarket brands so i dont think you should worry about that.

[sikuya]

right now Mitsu USA has the galant,lancer,evo,endeavor,outlander and montero..they are also about to introduce the next gen eclipse and eclipse spyder, and a dodge dakota-derived truck, the raider.then next year the montero (pajero/shogun) will fade into the american horizon.so i wonder if that's enough product to make their existence work and recover.


mitsu trims lineup,sales in US
mitsu selling its US operations?

[airshaq20]

right now Mitsu USA has the galant,lancer,evo,endeavor,outlander and montero..they are also about to introduce the next gen eclipse and eclipse spyder, and a dodge dakota-derived truck, the raider.then next year the montero (pajero/shogun) will fade into the american horizon.so i wonder if that's enough product to make their existence work and recover.


mitsu trims lineup,sales in US
mitsu selling its US operations?

Even with their current lineup, i dont think they're making any good pitch and surprisingly, most non-asian people i know look at Mitsu in par with Korean brands when it comes to brand image.

Sadly, i get to see lesser and lesser Mitsu's on the freeway. I think its about time for them to make a new division with a new image and approach.

[Karding]

They even suffered after GM dropped them. The GM Company got tired of paying Mitsu's debt. :hihihi:

[cyberdoc95]

Knowing that by history, Mitsubishi used to be the #2 japanese carmaker and they have been sliding since the 90's when honda started to make a noise on their quality cars. They were really suffering with substandard quality with poor response from the company when customers complain.

They are popular nowadays outside of the United States and not on Cars but on their big trucks. They are still known to produce good engines until today and theirs are the reliable ones when it comes to engines of big trucks.

These days, I really beleive that companies can turn around 180 degrees. I remember on the early 90's when SUBARU was reported to have suffered very poor annual figures successively for years. Of course, it was reflective then of their boring car designs and really bad quality. SUBARU had been known to have good engines but noisy with bland designs and interiors. And THEN, everybody was surprised when they came out sometime late 1996 when SUBARU made a major turnaround of the company's products and made it back to the competition. I was one of those who came to get one of theirs. My SUBARU OUTBACK IMPREZA was the sportiest sedan during that time. HE HE HE..

I'm sure that for a japanese company, they would be able to find investors and turn things around. If TOYOTA can do it, why can't other car manufacturers? Wala naman yatang magic spells kailangan to build a good car. That's why KIA and HYUNDAI have major leap on their vehicles' performance, probably because of what they have learned after years of experience. But they still have to prove their product to the public that they are reliable. That's why they offer these long warranties to gain the driving public's confidence.

I can understand if ISUZU would back-out from the US since they only sell SUV's, but sayang if Mitsubishi would do the same when they have already established their name. All they have to do is really make good products and market it correctly.

[sikuya]

They even suffered after GM dropped them. The GM Company got tired of paying Mitsu's debt. :hihihi:

i'm confused, was it GM or DCX? (i think it's DaimlerChrysler)

[nicolodeon]

I agree with cyberdoc95. Good companies like Mitsubishi can do a 180-degree turn-around. Toyota did it so there is no reason for the the Three-Diamond brand not to accomplish the same. Besides, the U.S. market has a history of being...biased (for the lack of a better word at this moment) against Japanese cars. Mitsubishi is very popular in Europe.

[mazdamazda]

i'm confused, was it GM or DCX? (i think it's DaimlerChrysler)

it's DC.

AFAIK, GM is only dabbling with the Koreans.

[Bogeyman]

Daewoo, to be more specific.

[airshaq20]

I agree with cyberdoc95. Good companies like Mitsubishi can do a 180-degree turn-around. Toyota did it so there is no reason for the the Three-Diamond brand not to accomplish the same. Besides, the U.S. market has a history of being...biased (for the lack of a better word at this moment) against Japanese cars. Mitsubishi is very popular in Europe.

Yes, we may all never know....But you said something about the US being biased against Jap cars, that is so untrue...if you look at the top ten selling cars (not SUV or trucks) most of them are jap cars.....

And being popular doesn't mean anything - just like my former boss used to say, a company being busy doesn't mean it's making money.....

But yeah, anything can happen...Just like Audi in the 80's when they were sued for "unattended accelaration" - they were one of the big 3's in the luxury segment (which includes MB and BMW) then they went rock bottom until the 1996 A4 came out and started to peak again....

Anyhow, its hard to ignore that they were bailed out for $4B and have to lay off 22% of their worldwide work force (11,000)......now, picture this..how much do they make for each car they sell??.....and how long is the ROI for that $4B??

If you noticed, they've been shuffling their inventory worldwide...they dropped off the Montero sport here in the US, and now, they are introducing them as "new model" to asian markets..

[empy]

it's all about the product. toyota and audi turned their fortunes around by making cars that appealed to customers in some way (they had an idea of what they wanted their cars to be to consumers and they stuck with it).

today, i can't see how any of their products appeal to any customer. they even missed the boat with the evo in the US. of course, all that can change, as early as next model cycle.

[sikuya]

Besides, the U.S. market has a history of being...biased (for the lack of a better word at this moment) against Japanese cars. Mitsubishi is very popular in Europe.

that statement is very flawed. the toyota camry and honda accord are america's bestselling cars for innumerable years now, and so are the honda civic and toyota corolla (compact sedans).Lexus is no.1 in the US, and nissan/infiniti are everywhere. come to America and you'll get dazed looking at these japanese cars in every corner of this great country.
and I'm not downplaying the European market, but if you can't make it in the world's biggest auto market where 17 million vehicles are sold yearly ,then you are not making it big, you can't be called a global player. add to that the insult of plunging and plummeting in their homemarket of japan, then mitsubishi is really in deep s.......you know....trouble.

[airshaq20]

OT:
Hey Sikuya, whats up with Chile's flag?

[sikuya]

OT:
Hey Sikuya, whats up with Chile's flag?

he,he...i can't believe it. shame,shame airshaq...you're being funny.

this is the chile flag:


and my revered flag is different.

[airshaq20]

LOL.....my bad....i really need glasses......hehehe

[empy]

i think that's the texas state flag....


sige na, mag-secede na kayo!!

[sikuya]

i think that's the texas state flag....


sige na, mag-secede na kayo!!

another OT:
watch out M54, the US is going to lose the lone star state (we're going to secede and Bush will be ourprez forever...LOL).besides,the official slogan here is "Texas,it's like a whole other country"....makes sense,huh?

now back to...MITSUBISHI..

[ale828]

Look at Nissan. they used to be in bigger debt and trouble in the 80's-90's than mitsubishi was yet look at them now. Nissan's turnaround happened when they were bought by renault. and had Gozy (forgot his name) was installed as the CEO. Just look at how Nissan is performing all around the world right now. Cars like the 350Z, nissan murano, X-trail has been having brisk sales. hopefully something like this will happen to mitsubishi.

BTW the lancer evo has mostly active safety which means its almost inversely proportional to passive safety.