Flopped vehicles in the Philippines

**ghosthunter** · January 11th, 2011 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

Can the Mazda Miata or MX-5 as locally known be considered a flop??

It is hard to consider the Miata/MX-5 (as a flop) because it is a two door convertible sports car. It might not have sold in big numbers but it was not expected to sell in big numbers anyway.

**uls** · January 11th, 2011 05:23 PM

di type ng 20something pinoys ang Kia Soul

ask any 20something pinoy ano gusto nila

nobody will mention that car

**ronw123w124** · January 11th, 2011 05:25 PM

May be too early to tell pero yung Chevy Cruze eh mukhang flop in the making na.

**ghosthunter** · January 11th, 2011 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by uls

di type ng 20something pinoys ang Kia Soul

ask any 20something pinoy ano gusto nila

nobody will mention that car

The pinoy20somethings are stuck with fast&furious in their minds. But the same pinoy20something mostly wouldn't have the financial resources to buy a new car today anyway.

So probably the pinoy40to50somethings would be buying the SOUL 1.6L for their pinoy20something kids then.

**ghosthunter** · January 11th, 2011 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

May be too early to tell pero yung Chevy Cruze eh mukhang flop in the making na.

How would you say that? Although I dont see much Cruzes on the road up to today (if at all), I think its too early to say such for the Cruze.

**uls** · January 11th, 2011 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

The pinoy20somethings are stuck with fast&furious in their minds.

Probably the pinoy40to50somethings would be buying the SOUL then.

yep

20somethings want low fast rides

then pag nagsawa sa vroom vroom racing racing, mag e-SUV

the Soul is neither sedan nor SUV

kaya wala bumibili

**ghosthunter** · January 11th, 2011 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by uls

yep

20somethings want low fast rides

then pag nagsawa sa vroom vroom racing racing, mag e-SUV

the Soul is neither sedan nor SUV

kaya wala bumibili

Too bad for them. The Soul 1.6L is pretty quick and handles well.

0-100kph: (local instrumented testing)
Soul 1.6L 4A/T = 12.3 seconds
Corolla 1.6L A/T = 13 seconds
Chevy Cruze 1.8L 6A/T = 13.2 seconds

**lowslowbenz** · January 11th, 2011 05:49 PM

The GM Opels were not flops .... (case in point argument here)

The cars were briskly selling during those early months ... when Opel was the proverbial "new kid on the block" ... and it banked on classic German Opel reliability .. (the 80's Rekord's, Manta's, Ascona's, Berlina's) ...

BUT ... after record high sales ... remember when almost everyone you knew had a Vectra, or an Astra ... heck, my uncle even bought an Omega ... they really messed up on one key important thing ..

DEALER AFTER SALES SUPPORT ... (Customer Satisfaction, Parts, Service)

and as they say ... the rest is history.

Though IIRC ... I think they had one re-badged korean car that was a flop ... the Chevrolet Cassia .. and the Opel Zafira.

**ghosthunter** · January 11th, 2011 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

The GM Opels were not flops .... (case in point argument here)

The cars were briskly selling during those early months ... when Opel was the proverbial "new kid on the block" ... and it banked on classic German Opel reliability .. (the 80's Rekord's, Manta's, Ascona's, Berlina's) ...

BUT ... after record high sales ... remember when almost everyone you knew had a Vectra, or an Astra ... heck, my uncle even bought an Omega ... they really messed up on one key important thing ..

DEALER AFTER SALES SUPPORT ... (Customer Satisfaction, Parts, Service)

and as they say ... the rest is history.

Though IIRC ... I think they had one re-badged korean car that was a flop ... the Chevrolet Cassia .. and the Opel Zafira.

Even my brother had two of them, Opel Astra (wagon) and Opel Omega. Both cars were at the casa having something fixed or repaired every month or so. Battery goes flat if you leave it for two days without warming up the engine.

**Mguy** · January 11th, 2011 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

May be too early to tell pero yung Chevy Cruze eh mukhang flop in the making na.

Too early to tell. So far, the Cruze has a good sized following, better than the Optra i guess.

**tidus1203** · January 11th, 2011 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by ronw123w124

May be too early to tell pero yung Chevy Cruze eh mukhang flop in the making na.

Well to early at this point but compared to the crappy Optra that actually sold better. But it was also the Optra's fault why the Cruze is having a hard time...

**tidus1203** · January 11th, 2011 06:40 PM

How about the Chevy Captiva? Initially it sold modestly well, then after awhile parang wala na. Discounts galore pero wala pa rin... Natabunan na ng Tucson, Santa Fe and the other crossovers...

Pero NMPI talaga ang hari ng FLOP!

Yung Sentra 200 nila pag pasok pa lang sa market FLOP na!

**lowslowbenz** · January 11th, 2011 06:45 PM

The local GM brand has found a saviour in the name of The Covenant Car Company .. (or something like that).. headed by the former topman of Volvo .. (Scandinavian Cars) .. no other than Atty. Albert Arcilla. .. which again we all know is the point person of Richard Lee in this endeavor ..

I hope the Lee magic brings back luster to the tainted image of GM ...

Anybody remember Lion Motors?.... the local importer for Peugeot? It was another Lee project .. headed by no other than Mimi Lee ... the very attractive daughter of Richard Lee. But alas .. a shortlived endeavor too ...

For the price of a base Peugeot 201 ... you can roughly buy 2 Hyundai Getz's ... (yup .. another Lee company) ....

Konting trivia lang ..

**lowslowbenz** · January 11th, 2011 06:48 PM

The Nissan Sentra 200 rides terrible ... seriously!

and its a gas guzzler too at 8 km/liter ...

**myk384** · January 11th, 2011 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

The GM Opels were not flops .... (case in point argument here)

The cars were briskly selling during those early months ... when Opel was the proverbial "new kid on the block" ... and it banked on classic German Opel reliability .. (the 80's Rekord's, Manta's, Ascona's, Berlina's) ...

BUT ... after record high sales ... remember when almost everyone you knew had a Vectra, or an Astra ... heck, my uncle even bought an Omega ... they really messed up on one key important thing ..

DEALER AFTER SALES SUPPORT ... (Customer Satisfaction, Parts, Service)

and as they say ... the rest is history.

Though IIRC ... I think they had one re-badged korean car that was a flop ... the Chevrolet Cassia .. and the Opel Zafira.

The Chevrolet Cassia is one BIG flop. A few units exist on the road. The Lumina is also a flop.... as in Major Major

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

The local GM brand has found a saviour in the name of The Covenant Car Company .. (or something like that).. headed by the former topman of Volvo .. (Scandinavian Cars) .. no other than Atty. Albert Arcilla. .. which again we all know is the point person of Richard Lee in this endeavor ..

I hope the Lee magic brings back luster to the tainted image of GM ...

Anybody remember Lion Motors?.... the local importer for Peugeot? It was another Lee project .. headed by no other than Mimi Lee ... the very attractive daughter of Richard Lee. But alas .. a shortlived endeavor too ...

For the price of a base Peugeot 201 ... you can roughly buy 2 Hyundai Getz's ... (yup .. another Lee company) ....

Konting trivia lang ..

It's Peugeot 206.....

**renzo_d10** · January 11th, 2011 07:29 PM

Peugeot. Every single unit. - looks are too european for Filipinos too appreciate. Brand is not too common for non-car enthusiasts. After sales sucks.

Kia Mohave - Expensive. Bland. The Sorento even looks better.

Hyundai i30 - looks nice. Price sucks.

Suzuki SX4 - hehehe. need I say more ?

Early hyundai's ( azera's, elantra's etc. etc. )

Honda HRV - i hardly see one on the road

The porsches & audis sell quite well. Don't know about the Maserati though, never seen one. The Jaguars, er ... newest one and the most common one i've been seeing lately are the X & S-types.

**ghosthunter** · January 11th, 2011 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

The Nissan Sentra 200 rides terrible ... seriously!

and its a gas guzzler too at 8 km/liter ...

I found the ride acceptible.

8km/L for the 2.0L A/T is average.

**lowslowbenz** · January 11th, 2011 08:05 PM

Corrections:

Chevrolet Cassia ... re-badged Suzuki Baleno (japanese)

Yup .. its the 206.. (201? what was I thinking?)

**170kphlang** · January 11th, 2011 08:06 PM

sayang i love the brand pero not the particular unit..

the b9 tribeca

**Starex_Gold** · January 11th, 2011 08:20 PM

Nawala sa isip ko yun ah.. Subaru Tribeca. FLOP! Mas marami pang VeraCruz.

Which B9 bro?

Ang sama ng itsura nung nasa 1st pic..

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