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    #21
    Car dealers have very little margin in the sale of any car. They get most of their revenues from the services they offer (PMS, mechanical/body repairs, parts, fluids, etc.) Besides, they will only refer you to a dealer if you need to purchase a car. This is to protect their dealers.

    Think of printers. You can get a printer for as little as 1.5-2k. It it's the sale of consumables like ink, toner, printhead, imaging drum, etc. is where they get most of their revenues from.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    Admin. Bantay ha. Ayaw ko ng gulo.
    Sir diba may mga planta naman dito sa pinas? Dito na assemble.
    Automobile manufacturers like Mitsubishi Motor Phils are almost 100% foreign owned. Such companies are not allowed to engage in retail business such as car dealerships.

    That's why cars have to be sold by dealers that are mostly Filipino owned.

    Car dealerships use the brand only under license from the foreign manufacturer.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by philsat View Post
    Ang 600k daw na car e pag kinuha sa planta e 450k lang daw yan..
    Ang nag papataas po talaga nang presyo nang brand new na kotse is yun pong TAXES na pinapatong nang gobyerno po

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    I think for everyone especially the moderators who are seeing this thread, we have to at least have a consensus about what happens to threads like these.

    To at least honor his statement with a reply, *philsat, kakabanggit mo lang, assemble. It is completely different from manufacturing which quite frankly we do not do. Most of the vehicles we get here are either CKD or CBU. So taxes and margins still apply. Wala tayong start from scratch dito, unless you count jeepneys with rebuilt engines. So before you say na dapat pwede makakuha direct sa planta ang isang buyer (in our market conditions na walang manufacturing ng parts) better study up first.

    Anyway, if no one is against this idea. Let's give this thread 24 hours to see if there is any development of addition more enlightening info than just hearsay and statements that are not thought out.

    If there is no more productive info arriving then we can close this thread because tax rates are mostly fixed til 2018 for the excise tax as per the agreements, e-VAT is not being discussed for increase or decrease for this item and there really won't be any car executive who will contest or divulge contrary information to the Honda Exec who mentioned the 6%.

    Everyone cool with that idea?

    Cheers!

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    I think for everyone especially the moderators who are seeing this thread, we have to at least have a consensus about what happens to threads like these.

    To at least honor his statement with a reply, *philsat, kakabanggit mo lang, assemble. It is completely different from manufacturing which quite frankly we do not do. Most of the vehicles we get here are either CKD or CBU. So taxes and margins still apply. Wala tayong start from scratch dito, unless you count jeepneys with rebuilt engines. So before you say na dapat pwede makakuha direct sa planta ang isang buyer (in our market conditions na walang manufacturing ng parts) better study up first.

    Anyway, if no one is against this idea. Let's give this thread 24 hours to see if there is any development of addition more enlightening info than just hearsay and statements that are not thought out.

    If there is no more productive info arriving then we can close this thread because tax rates are mostly fixed til 2018 for the excise tax as per the agreements, e-VAT is not being discussed for increase or decrease for this item and there really won't be any car executive who will contest or divulge contrary information to the Honda Exec who mentioned the 6%.

    Everyone cool with that idea?

    Cheers!
    Kaya nga mas mabuting i-ban na sya e. Full of non sense stuff sya. Gagawa ng thread, makikipagaway, close thread, gagawa ulit thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Kaya nga mas mabuting i-ban na sya e. Full of non sense stuff sya. Gagawa ng thread, makikipagaway, close thread, gagawa ulit thread
    As what I see, hindi naman si TS ang nakikipag away kundi yung mga nag rereact sa mga reply nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robgowild View Post
    As what I see, hindi naman si TS ang nakikipag away kundi yung mga nag rereact sa mga reply nya.
    Kasi di ata alam ni ts na nonsense mga tanong nya. O nananadya lng talaga. Kaya nagtatalo

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    #27
    Everything you buy is from a profit company. Ultimo yosi or candy e. Kahit sa planta mo binili, may markup to cover their expenses plus ung bayad sa effort na ginawa nila.

    Small time yan. Then imagine it on a large scale. If candy, bbilhin mo ng piso, ibbenta mo ng 2pesos e may karapatan mag 100% markup, kotse pa kaya. ;)

    Selling goods or cars in this case, without markup, is like working for free.

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    #28
    Sa totoo lang, yung OP naman is a sensible question. And so far, yung reply ni philsat hindi naman out of line.

    Ang napapansin ko lang, automatic na aggressive ang mga sagot ng ibang tao. Oo siguro tanga yung dating sa inyo ni philsat, pero nagmumukha rin kayong tanga kakapatol.

    Ang problema lang kay philsat dito parang paulit ulit eh. Ok nasabi mo na na 450k ang cost ng 600k SRP car according to your friend. Ok tama na, wag paulit ulit kasi naiinis mga tao sa paulit ulit.

    Gusto niyo ban kagad. Try niyo kaya magpigil kaysa makikielam pa mod para lang macontrol kayo. Malapit nang maban yang si philsat kung manggugulo pa siya uli, but it doesn't help na lahat nalang ng bagay pupunahin niyo sa kanya.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Kaya nga mas mabuting i-ban na sya e. Full of non sense stuff sya. Gagawa ng thread, makikipagaway, close thread, gagawa ulit thread
    Nonses po ba? Nag tanong ba ako? Try to read po whole page.. Nonsense ba na malaman natin ang whole markup of dealer and manufacturer. Maybe on you. Bayad ka ng bayad na hindi mo alam ang posible markup ng isang store sa binibili mo.. Kung nonses sayo ang topic. Wag ka po sumagot. You look nonsense to me.

    Admin paki bigyan nga ng warning ito.
    Nakaka sira lang ng topic.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by robgowild View Post
    As what I see, hindi naman si TS ang nakikipag away kundi yung mga nag rereact sa mga reply nya.
    Actually sir e hindi ko talaga ugali makipag away. Sports naman akong kausap. Maybe my brain is different to them.. Hindi maiiwan na masagasaan ang paniniwala.. Midyo mahilig ako sa debate and mahirap ako matalo diyan for sure.

    Yan ang problem sa normal na pinoy. Pag may nakita silang mas mataas sa kanila e sisiraan na.. Sad to say guys e hindi na ako na aapiktuhan ng negative comment. Actually natatawa pa nga ako.. I know my self and my achievement.

    Kung wala sa level ng company owner or investor ang pupuna sa akin e malamang hindi ako makikinig...

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