Car TRUE value? how much is your car without markup?

[jick.cejoco]

You guys heard

It's yis ur nu

[philsat]

Let's try to teach someone who refuses to be educated and informed.

MY big question TO you sir (not on you <--- please not the difference kasi hindi nakapatong sa akin yung question and MY doesn't have a letter a. Typo is improbably as m and y on the keyboard are very far apart, so keep that in mind. WINK!)

The statement of "sinabi ko na mali ang mga data mo?" (the ending with a question mark yet the line is a statement not positing a question. If it were a question dapat "sinabi ko BA na mali ang mga data mo?"

Then when you ended the first line with ..., improper. Dapat "My question to you sir is, "sinabi ko ba na mali ang mga data mo?".

Diba, mas maayos, instead sa ginawa mo.

AS for yung statement sa dulo.. Walang font size pero type ko na lang

"YES or NO", tinype ko na YES or No, hindi ko nga lang malakihan.

Now was that too hard?

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To just reply then, nasagot na nga tanong mo diba, anu pa ba kelangan? Wala na. So bakit paulit ulit ka pa din?

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Now i know how good. Hahaha.. Thanks..
Masyado ka ng magaling sir. Back to basic din minsan.

[shadow]

I think many years ago dealer's mark up for expeditions was at 100k per unit. I guess I read it somewhere.

[kris_13]

Sa 650cc bike sa Suzuki plant may alam akong nakabili na. mas mura lang yata ng not more than 10k or 15k yata which is obvious na malaki parin ang patong. sa pagkaka-alala ko sa MC forum.

Tingin ko hindi ito applicable sa Cage/Car.

Bilang lang kasi ang dealer na may big bikes, the rest is UB and scoots na binebenta kaya pwede rumekta sa planta.

Pero sa kotse, imposible makabili direct from the plant. Spare parts siguro pwede.

[philsat]

GAME!

Pero ito gusto ko penalty. Pag asa side ng tsikot posters ang facts at ikaw nonsense, wag ka na magpaban, tumahimik ka na lang at wag ka na magpost dito or gumawa ng kahit anong thread or topic. HONOR SYSTEM ika-nga. Sana meron ka nun diba?

Wag na tayong magpost dalawa for the meantime til an admin replies to this thread kung nakanino ang facts.

Pag nagdecide admin, yung mali, hindi na magpost sa tsikot, pwede magbasa ng threads, bawal magpost kahit kelan.

End of Story.

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Haha. Alam ko na level mo. Haha.. Simple question and simple answer e sayo whole board ang sagot. Sir advice lang learn again the basic.. Haha..

[miso_honi]

naunsa ka man bay, maura ka man ug durian. bisag asang kilira talinis

[keithdb]

This is an article from tgp. Maybe this will the answer question and end this senseless bickering.
http://www.topgear.com.ph/features/f...t-to-read-this

[_Cathy_]

MODERATOR'S NOTE: philsat is banned for 7 days for violating several forum rules.

[dos2]

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[dr. d]

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i read somewhere,that only the manufacturer can truly approximate the cost of a car's manufacture.
some authors even say that it can be done accurately, but only after that particular model's manufacturing run is over. the simplified equation is as ff:

cost per unit = total cost of running the factory for that particular model, divided by the number of units manufactured.

then the manufacturer will add the non-manufacturing expenses, like additional taxes, mark-up, advertising, shipping and storage, etc..

the topgear's article above delved only on dealer mark-up, which is not part of the cost of manufacture.

are there rules on mark-up? unfortunately, these are better left to the imagination of the manufacturer and the dealer.

henry ford once said, "big cars, big profit.. little cars, little profit". but that was before the arab oil embargo industry... how things change..

heh heh.

[Juan Martinez]

i wonder too if there are rules. what's the standard? who regulates this? DTI?

[machine.pistol]

I guess there are no standards on pricing. This is generally a free market after all.

[dos2]

We can only assume, only internal accountants of these big companies may know. This may be highly variable depending on the tax, company, country, model, variant, purpose, etc.

Luxury and Sports cars may have bigger profit margins since these cater to a specific niche and may be inelastic to price increase (eg Floyd buying several Bugatti's).

On the other side of the coin, a company may opt to sell cars at a very low profit just in order to maintain market dominance in a specific country since it was mentioned that bulk of earnings are from maintenance. Case point is the Toyota Vios or the Hyundai Eon which from what I remember are top sellers of their respective brands locally. I wouldn't be surprised if the actua; profit margin per unit is only 1% or less since more brand new units, more casa maintenance, and more earnings.
Secondly, iba din ang market presence. If I see a lot of cars of a specific model and this is true for 3 years or more, then that company may be doing something right. To a typical pinoy, this can be interpreted that the model is a good and reliable one.

[JCPR20]

Masubukan nga din na makasawsaw dito:

Ang mga materyales na ginagamit sa pagbuo ng sasakyan kagaya ng mga turnilyo, pintuan, salamin at iba pa ay madaling makuha ang tunay o aktuwal na presyo o halaga. alam naman natin na meron pang labor o trabaho na idadagdag diyan para mabuo yung producto at itong halaga ng labor idinadagdag sa presyo ng producto gamit ang tinatawag nilang standard cost. sa puntong ito, distorted na yung actual cost ng producto. tapos meron ka pang allocated costs para sa overhead na kagaya ng sahod ng HR, sahod ng IT, mga utilities at iba pa. at meron din alokasyon ng wastage. at pag natapos na yung produkto at handa ng ibenta sa kliyenta, ano ang "true value" nito? hindi ko alam dahil hindi ko naman alam ang depinisyon ng "true value". Ang cost to manufacture based on some costing method siguro pwede natin masagot.

[Bin Diesel]

^ Yeah mukhang much less than 10% for sub 1M na car kaya you can only get as much discount as you can. Then this goes up sa mga more expensive vehicles ng brand.
Based on the discounts given by Nissan, they are giving up to 600k discount sa murano before and only around 30k sa almera. Unless yung planta mismo sa Japan ang nagsubsidize ng discount sa murano.

[nowitzki41]

Naging peaceful bigla dito ah. Hehehe!

[dos2]

Naging peaceful bigla dito ah. Hehehe!

makabili na nga ng uratex!

[Bin Diesel]

Itulog mo na yan.

[jick.cejoco]

value and price are two different things


for the common daily cars, the profit margin of the manufacturer is not that much. they get it back from parts and labor specially when the car is still under warranty. that is why too, some of the maintenance/repair services require manufacturer specific tools and equipment. as for high end cars, they make the profit immediately from sales and after sales which is parts and service.

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value and price are two different things


for the common daily cars, the profit margin of the manufacturer is not that much. they get it back from parts and labor specially when the car is still under warranty. that is why too, some of the maintenance/repair services require manufacturer specific tools and equipment. as for high end cars, they make the profit immediately from sales and after sales which is parts and service.

[1D4LV]

a friend from Isuzu Alabang told me that the mark-up per vehicle varies... Average of 10-12% lang daw per vehicle.