Ford's POWERSHIFT Question

**erick_214** · June 5th, 2011 11:27 PM

Hi Niky, thanks for your input...

So, ano ba mas maganda yung dry-type PS or yng wet-type PS?

Wow may mga variants pa pala ito...

Ano nga pala pinagkaiba ng dry and wet type?

**tidus1203** · June 5th, 2011 11:57 PM

Ang alam kong pinaka malaking difference ng DRY and WET type is yung WET kailangan pa ng transmission fluid changes in maintenance intervals. Yung DRY type sealed na yun, no need for transmission fluid EVER. Its as good as the life of the car so basically its maintenance free na sya. Di ko na lang alam sa durability, since wala pa tayo sa future!

Also to lean more about the DUAL CLUTCH TRANMISSION read
Dual clutch transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**niky** · June 6th, 2011 10:43 AM

Basically, that's it. But the big difference, which is why they still use the wet type for the TDCi is that the dry-type has a limit in how much torque it can handle. The wet-type can take much more power, which is why it's used for the TDCi, since the TDCi puts out over 250 ft.lbs of torque on overboost.

The dry-clutch has a 170 ft-lb (or somewhere thereabouts... forgot exact number) torque limit. More than enough for the Fiesta or, likely, a gasoline 2.0, but not anywhere near enough to cope with a turbocharged 2.0 diesel.

Still... the other advantage of the dry-clutch is that it should give better economy than the wet clutch. Less friction, less drag, less weight.

**Ry_Tower** · June 6th, 2011 12:39 PM

So technically better pa rin Manual tranny if you are after absolute fuel economy?

**erick_214** · June 6th, 2011 12:48 PM

Hmmm...Uu nga ano parang mas OK pa rin yung MANUAL...kaso nga lang nakakatamad ng mag-MANUAL pag trapik eh...

Pero guys,,,pag nasa SPORTS MODE yung PS both wet and dry, pwede ba magshift up around 1500RPM..? Advisable ba? May

Masisira ba?

So sa wet-type PS eh wala ng TORQUE converter na aalalahanin db? So ano naman ang dapat na alalahanin sa wet-type PS?

**tidus1203** · June 6th, 2011 01:07 PM

All dual clutch tranny's have NO torque converter mapa wet or dry type. Lets concentrate on the wet type since you are buying a 2nd gen Ford Focus... Ang aalahanin mo lang is papalitan mo yung transmission fluids nya on the designated time of changes. Not sure what's the interval mga Focus owners na sumagot...

Actually sa shifting mas ok pa nga dual clutch kaysa manual. Here look at this Japanese video. DUAL CLUTCH vs MANUAL both a VW Golf tested by pros... As we can see DCT shifts faster and smoother.

YouTube - ‪Drift King Test Golf GTI (DSG vs 6spd Manual)‬&rlm;

**erick_214** · June 7th, 2011 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

All dual clutch tranny's have NO torque converter mapa wet or dry type. Lets concentrate on the wet type since you are buying a 2nd gen Ford Focus... Ang aalahanin mo lang is papalitan mo yung transmission fluids nya on the designated time of changes. Not sure what's the interval mga Focus owners na sumagot...

Actually sa shifting mas ok pa nga dual clutch kaysa manual. Here look at this Japanese video. DUAL CLUTCH vs MANUAL both a VW Golf tested by pros... As we can see DCT shifts faster and smoother.

YouTube - ‪Drift King Test Golf GTI (DSG vs 6spd Manual)‬&rlm;

Hi Tidus, thanks for the links...very informative and kakainggit din...hehehe
Actually so yung current Focus has wet-type PS right? Yung 2012 Focus kaya wet/dry?
Ano ba advantages and disadvantages ng wet and dry type PS?
Yung sa Fofi mo, I guess PS yan db, so how do you change gears if your into Manual/Sports mode?

Thanks again...

**niky** · June 7th, 2011 03:51 PM

If it's the TDCi, chances are it'll be wet. If it's gasoline, likely dry.

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

So technically better pa rin Manual tranny if you are after absolute fuel economy?

Yup. Because you know what gear you need to be in at all times. The transmission doesn't. But these new dual-clutches and CVTs give almost as good economy as the best drivers, for much less pain.

**tidus1203** · June 7th, 2011 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by erick_214

Hi Tidus, thanks for the links...very informative and kakainggit din...hehehe
Actually so yung current Focus has wet-type PS right? Yung 2012 Focus kaya wet/dry?
Ano ba advantages and disadvantages ng wet and dry type PS?
Yung sa Fofi mo, I guess PS yan db, so how do you change gears if your into Manual/Sports mode?

Thanks again...

Unfortunately the Fiesta has no manual override or sports mode. Parang old school automatic P R N D and L lang...

**niky** · June 8th, 2011 11:26 AM

Doesn't matter, either... the +/- function on Ford Focii (whether they be Powershift or not) has always been slow to react and clumsy.

"L" is the most you'll need from any transmission. It hangs on to revs, lets you run out the engine before shifting and does a good job of being responsive.