Ford quietly replacing Fiesta transmissions on owner complaints

**desert fox** · March 7th, 2011 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by sachiel

Dual clutch transmissions are difficult to master that's why it's not yet mainstream in the market, just like the issue of CVTs before and there are still issues on CVTs till today. Maybe it will take them 2 more years to perfect the technology.

Meaning to say they did it to Fiesta like a guinea pig?

**tidus1203** · March 7th, 2011 03:35 PM

The Fiesta is not the first Ford to have a dual clutch transmission... That would be the Focus...

The technology is not exactly very new, new to econo cars outside of Volkswagen and Audi then yes its new...

**pista_ni_jon** · March 7th, 2011 03:49 PM

im not worried...

...yet!

**desert fox** · March 7th, 2011 03:53 PM

Maybe what broSachiel meant is, It will take 2 years more to perfect that tech in FIESTA.

**sanmigs** · March 7th, 2011 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by vivafoxpro

Thanks for the information. This will surely help those still choosing a brand and if the Fiesta has already been chosen, whether to go with the Powershift or the M/T.

My own decision was to go with the 1.4 M/T for the ff reasons:
1. Full control of gear shifting: For fuel economy, I shift between gears at 1200RPM while those of us having Powershifts are happy with a 2500RPM change in gear. When I need higher acceleration during overtaking, I even go up to 4000RPM before shifting up. I do not rely on the computer's judgment as far as shifting goes.
2. M/T is less complex and there are less things to go wrong.
3. M/T is cheaper both in acquisition cost and repair cost down the line.

As for the silent "recall", Toyota's and Honda's "glitches" already caused some deaths in other countries. This illustrates that no design and production procedure is 100% perfect and no account of Fiesta deaths have been reported.

You shift at 1200 RPM sir? Or do you mean 2200 RPM?

**jetrone** · March 7th, 2011 04:04 PM

Found this on fiestafaction

Is this the same as the "reset" you guys have been doing?

TSB 10-19-6

FORD: 2011 Fiesta

ISSUE:

Some 2011 Fiesta vehicles may exhibit a hard start, no start, intermittent start, noise from bellhousing during start and/or various automatic transmission engagement concerns such as no engagement or intermittent no engagement in Drive or Reverse when shifting from Park to Drive or Reverse, grinding noise during engagement and/or a check engine light with transmission control module (TCM) diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P06B8 or P0884.

ACTION:

Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

Remove attaching bolts for the G100 battery ground and G106 powertrain control module (PCM) ground. Remove the paint under the ground eyelet mounting locations. Apply Motorcraft® Electrical Grease to the bolts to prevent corrosion and reinstall. Torque bolts to 115 lb-in (13 Nm). (Figure 1)

Using digital volt ohm meter (DVOM), measure battery voltage. Battery voltage must be between 12.5 and 14 volts. If below, charge and retest. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 414-01.

Using DVOM, with key on engine off (KOEO), measure voltage from battery positive terminal to G106 PCM ground bolt. Compare to battery voltage measurement in step 2. Voltage drop must be less than 0.5 volt difference. Refer to WSM, Section 414-00.

Using IDS, verify VPWR and B positive are between 12.5 and 14 volts. If not, refer to WSM for low voltage diagnostics.

Verify vehicle transmission:

Manual Transmission.

Do not continue with this procedure.

Automatic Transmission.

Proceed to Step 6.

Reprogram the TCM by reprogramming the PCM to the latest calibration using IDS release 69.02 and higher. The PCM and TCM are a matched set. The TCM can only be updated by updating the PCM. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2010.9 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at Buy Motorcraft Parts Online | Official Motorcraft Auto Parts Site | FordParts.com.

Perform all three TCM clutch adaptive learning routines (TRS, Shift Drum and Clutch). Refer to TCM Adaptive Learning in WSM, Section 307-11.

NOTE: IF A DRIVE CYCLE IS NOT COMPLETED, THE CUSTOMER MAY FEEL ERRATIC SHIFTS AND DRIVEABILITY CONCERNS.

**desert fox** · March 7th, 2011 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by pista_ni_jon

im not worried...

...yet!

SAFETY WISE nothing to worry bro...unlike Toyota.

"None of the complaints suggest a safety problem which would force Ford to do a recall, and Ford has been agressive about responding to the complaints on Twitter and elsewhere. [SIZE=4]But the reports suggest a real issue with the Fiesta, one that could dent Ford's recently burnished quality reputation[/SIZE]."

**hausteam** · March 7th, 2011 04:19 PM

Parang may nabasa ako na isang company lang ang gumagawa ng lahat nd DCT assembly for worldwide use. Malamang hindi sa Thailand o Mexico gawa yan.

**tidus1203** · March 7th, 2011 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by jetrone

Found this on fiestafaction

Is this the same as the "reset" you guys have been doing?

The reason we reset is to improve the shift points lower (since most of us are city drivers we prefer shifts at 2000RPM) for fuel economy reasons (prior to reset 2500RPM to 3000RPM is the traditional shift point)... And not because we have a problem with the Powershift DCT...

**jetrone** · March 7th, 2011 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

The reason we reset is to improve the shift points lower (since most of us are city drivers we prefer shifts at 2000RPM) for fuel economy reasons (prior to reset 2500RPM to 3000RPM is the traditional shift point)... And not because we have a problem with the Powershift DCT...

i see,
so sir Tidus, is there a significant improvement to FC?