2018 Ford Everest (facelift)

[Walter]

Search for Ford Ecoboost issues ...

[Egan101]

This new 2.0 biturbo engine has to be always highly strung to produce that kind of power. One thing about small engines with high hp/torque is they dont last long. Well im sure ford has done something to make it more durable. But knowing ford, hmmm.....


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I beg to disagree about 2.0L engines being not reliable. Take a look at gasoline turbo engines. 200hp is not a big figure even 15 years ago. Mitsubishi produced 300hp with the 4G63T for the Evolution. My FXT makes a modest 240hp but in some Subaru models, it is tuned to 300hp. Volkswagen’s 2.0L turbo gas can be tuned from 220 to 300hp, just like BMW. Mercedes even has a 2.0L turbo that is rated around 350hp. All these engines then are not durable?

With diesel engines, they are designed to be more robust than gas engines. I guess a lot more tech is designed more them for use with light trucks. Ford is just following the steps of the Europeans with better turbocharging for smaller engines.


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[heavenlee]

This new 2.0 biturbo engine has to be always highly strung to produce that kind of power. One thing about small engines with high hp/torque is they dont last long. Well im sure ford has done something to make it more durable. But knowing ford, hmmm.....


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I've been hearing this same argument from a number of people. Small engines with high power and torque output equals a stressed engine that is not as reliable or long lasting as their bigger counterparts. I guess only time will tell if they are correct.

[istan]

Its the engine design. Case in point below:

"Ford Engine Failures. This video seems to be painting over a BIG problem. There have been numerous problems with new Ford engines, ever since strict EU and US emissions laws have forced car makers to develop small, lightweight engines, which need to be turbocharged just to give them some power. The metals are weak, the gasket areas are thin and cramped, and easily fatigue. Take the Focus RS (the latest one)... Ford (for some ridiculous and stupid reason) designed the engine in such a way that the four piston cylendars are actually unsupported inside engines block, but remain ‘kept in place’ only by the head gasket!! Lots of Focus RS owners reported total engine failures at around the 20,000 mile mark, and around 1-3 years of age. What happens, is that the engine vibrates away the gasket’s material, and begins allowing coolant to seep into the cylendars. This creates a situation where the engine loses coolant and needs topping up. But, all of a sudden, the gasket would fail completely and lots of coolant would rush into a cylendar and seize the engine up by ‘hydro-locking’ it. Along the way, it also likely overheated and warped the top and bottom sections of the engine block, resulting in a scrap engine. Fords solution? Recall Focus RS and replace head gasket with a slightly better one! A 300bhp engine relying on a wager of metal to keep it in check!! Jesus! And since 2010, these little put-put-put three-cylendar EcoBoost engine’s have been pretty much the same. Except worse! When coolant can seep into the exhaust manifold area, this can cause detonation and fire. Not good. Imagine if a driver was startled by it, crashed and fell unconscious or injured and couldn’t get out. They would be killed. The biggest issue is that Ford have been very dismissive to customers until class action was taken and TV jumped in too. Ford telling customers that the solution was to fit a better “Coolant Low Sensor” is NOT solving the crappy built engine issue."

From: a comment of BBC London ford recall report.

Sorry OT.

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[AG4]

Its the engine design. Case in point below:

"Ford Engine Failures. This video seems to be painting over a BIG problem.....

This is way off-topic, aside from affecting old car models, it isn't even offered in the Everest.
For those who care, the 1.0 liter EcoBoost in the news with the coolant pipe issue are for models built between October 2011 and October 2013.

[AG4]

This new 2.0 biturbo engine has to be always highly strung to produce that kind of power. One thing about small engines with high hp/torque is they dont last long. Well im sure ford has done something to make it more durable. But knowing ford, hmmm.....

This is how Ford's 2.0 Bi-trubo works...

Working as a team, the smaller, high-pressure (HP) turbo is connected in a sequence to the larger, LP turbo and is controlled with by-pass valves that determine the operating mode depending on engine speed. At lower engine speeds, the two turbos work in series, enhancing torque and responsiveness, while at higher engine speeds, the small HP turbo is bypassed, and the higher LP turbo provides boost to deliver more power.

This testing includes running a 'thermo cycle' on the engine, heating both turbos to the point of glowing red for 200 hours non-stop. It can withstand this torture thanks to the turbo bearings and low-pressure (LP) turbo being water cooled to reduce temperature, avoid over-heating and protect the air induction components.

PS: Small high output diesels isn't really a new thing in Europe.
Even the Japanese and Korean automakers are moving to smaller displacement high output diesels for their pickups and SUVs.
Isuzu has the 150PS 1.9 liter RZ4E engine, Mazda has the 175PS 2.2 Skyactiv-D turbo, in other markets the Nissan Navara has the 190PS twin-turbo 2.3 liter YS23DDTT diesel, and Hyundai has the 200PS 2.2 liter CRDi e-VGT engine.

[benchph1]

Yeah i agree, but if you compare them to this diesel 2.0 biturbo engine, it is still has the highest power/torque figures. And i am aware that ford has done hours of testing and strengthening for the block and other engine components to withstand the stress it will be exposed to. My point is i hope Ford did it properly and correctly this time.


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[istan]

This is way off-topic, aside from affecting old car models, it isn't even offered in the Everest.
For those who care, the 1.0 liter EcoBoost in the news with the coolant pipe issue are for models built between October 2011 and October 2013.

Sorry, i am just pointing out that engine design affects durability vs the previous post "Small engines with high power and torque output equals a stressed engine".

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[Egan101]

Too much negativity against Ford and its engines is what I’m seeing here but it’s understandable. I have a Fiesta Ecoboost and for more than 4 years of ownership, I have never had issues with its small turbo engine. The engine just plain delivers day in, day out, even when pushed to its limit.

If Toyota or any other Japanese manufacturer came up with such a 2.0L turbo Diesel engine producing such power output, nobody would question it and some would even sing praises to it.

All I can say is that we can see first how it performs before judging it. If you’re not comfortable with such engines producing such output even with smaller displacements, then don’t buy one and just get yourself the usual variety you are used to.


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[aNthraxx]

Got a different SUV this time, i still have my old ford and it has never conked out of me even once. Its a 2nd gen everest and im just religious with its maintenance. Opting like to change in pairs or complete set of a particular part even though the other is still perfectly fine. I dont specifically know if the maintenance is more expensive than a jap brand but once replaced the thing just keeps on going. Now this discount came belatedly as my PO for another brand came out before it was announced. I cant wait for the 2019 model as its still to far off. For all the bad rep i heard about ford i have never experienced in my unit. Reason i went for another brand is much superficial " para ma iba naman" LOL.

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[StockEngine]

selling nearly 6000 Everests in 2018...

new Eve finally appearing next year...

Ford Philippines Just Teased the 219 Everest | Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Automotive Features, and New Car Prices | ************

[glenn manikis]

Sorry, i am just pointing out that engine design affects durability vs the previous post "Small engines with high power and torque output equals a stressed engine".

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Not true... Hirap lang ang small engines pag mababa ang Hp and torque levels nya... Why? Bec. Youll need a higher Rpm to produce more power....

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[StockEngine]

One of the more interesting updates is the new standard tyre pressures. from 2.4Bar to 2.1Bar thats 34psi down to 30psi.

Newly introduced in SA. So hopefully we get it soon.


Ford Everest (219) Specs & Price - Cars.co.za

[xeoto]

James Deak.ns

According to auto industria... top selling midels for 2016... no.8 ang Everest...

Wala naman ako nakita na nasa top 10 ang MUX ha..

Baka naman ibang country sinasabi mo? Or combined sales ng MUX and trail...?
https://www.xeoto.com.vn/ford/everest

[Walter]

Will someone please ban this spammer ...

[StockEngine]

just like the new ranger.. (rumor)the facelift version will have once a year maintenance visit.

[StockEngine]

https://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-...ef=home_feed_1

[StockEngine]

Finally test drove the 20incher. new Suspension ate all the road imperfections at the event. didnt even had to check the tire pressure. 1-2nd gear launch is good. nvh is amazing. no seat vibration. good for the slow traffic.

[fleas2016]

Nice! How about some photos?

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[gongrhey]

Finally test drove the 20incher. new Suspension ate all the road imperfections at the event. didnt even had to check the tire pressure. 1-2nd gear launch is good. nvh is amazing. no seat vibration. good for the slow traffic.

Yan ba yung bi-turbo engine and ano na update sa suspension bro? Yung 2016 model medyo matagtag nga sa 20s.