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    Quote Originally Posted by meledson View Post
    puwede mong ipa open ang engine cover para makita kung mayroon ng deposits o wala. Actually, i would recommend it.
    madali lang ba buksan sir? as i can see, ilang bolts/nuts lang eh. problem ko lang is yung gasket, baka di ko maibalik ng maayos.

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    gee, another toyota issue. i think lahat naman ng kotse may sludging issue. just so happens na talagang sangkatutak ang toyota sa kalsada (at sa buong mundo for that matter) kaya amplified parati ang mga problema. if you google sludging + any car manufacturer, may lalabas na mga sludging complaints.

    So, for toyota owners, don't worry too much. tatanda tayong maaga nyan hehehe just be religious in your oil and filter changes. dapat mapalitan ng oil every 3 months kahit isang dipa lang ang itinakbo ng kotse during that time interval. kung usual usage, every 5k kms, kahit mineral or synthetic.

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    ayusin lang natin,

    1.mineral: goes for 6mos or 5000kms
    2.semi-synthetic: 7500kms or 9mos
    3.fully synthetic: 10000 or 12mos ( *5000kms change filter + add'l oil)
    * whichever comes first mos or kms

    Yung sludge ng toyota engines, I think stems from the fuel filter used. if the oil is not filtered effectively sludge will develop cause the dirt deposits will mix with oil. the engine will "katok also if the filter is clogged cause oil wont lubricate the metal parts of the engine, and will cause overheat due to excessive friction. Now why the filter? cause there are a lot of fake filters out there, even some unscrupulous casa employees may pass to their fake filters to unsuspecting customers who think they have an original. The orig will be sold outside as it is highly priced at some auto supplies. Fake I am referring to are not the vic brand cause even that too is being faked. just my 2 cents




    Quote Originally Posted by dekzee View Post
    gee, another toyota issue. i think lahat naman ng kotse may sludging issue. just so happens na talagang sangkatutak ang toyota sa kalsada (at sa buong mundo for that matter) kaya amplified parati ang mga problema. if you google sludging + any car manufacturer, may lalabas na mga sludging complaints.

    So, for toyota owners, don't worry too much. tatanda tayong maaga nyan hehehe just be religious in your oil and filter changes. dapat mapalitan ng oil every 3 months kahit isang dipa lang ang itinakbo ng kotse during that time interval. kung usual usage, every 5k kms, kahit mineral or synthetic.
    Last edited by blue_gambit; April 3rd, 2010 at 01:35 AM. Reason: add

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_gambit View Post
    ayusin lang natin,

    1.mineral: goes for 6mos or 5000kms
    2.semi-synthetic: 7500kms or 9mos
    3.fully synthetic: 10000 or 12mos ( *5000kms change filter + add'l oil)
    * whichever comes first mos or kms

    saan mu naman nakuha ito sir?

    just follow what is the recommended intervals of your vehicle.

    mapa-mineral or synth pa yan. i would'nt go neither at 7.5k nor 10k km even if im using RP on my ZZ. i just follow the intervals recommended by toyota.
    Last edited by aejhayl17; April 3rd, 2010 at 01:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_gambit View Post

    Yung sludge ng toyota engines, I think stems from the fuel filter used. if the oil is not filtered effectively sludge will develop cause the dirt deposits will mix with oil. the engine will "katok also if the filter is clogged cause oil wont lubricate the metal parts of the engine, and will cause overheat due to excessive friction. Now why the filter? cause there are a lot of fake filters out there, even some unscrupulous casa employees may pass to their fake filters to unsuspecting customers who think they have an original. The orig will be sold outside as it is highly priced at some auto supplies. Fake I am referring to are not the vic brand cause even that too is being faked. just my 2 cents

    di ko po nagets. you were starting with the fuel filter, then end up with the oil filter sir.

    pero i agree na din. a good OIL filter can add protection against sludge.

    but the most effective is being religious enough to properly maintain your vehicle (not just your engine) and meeting diligently your scheduled pms.

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    Problema pa kasi di natin nakikita ang oto kapag PMS na sa casa.. Baka mamaya palpak gawa nila't salpakan ka ng pekeng oil filter ..

    Our vios has been using fully synthetic oil since 5k PMS.. Di ko lang alam kasi dad ko nagpapa-PMS eh.. Pati 10k PMS ata, change oil pero synthetic pa rin.. Sana naman wag na magkaroon nitong sludge.. Sa 15k PMS sasama na ako for me to know the status of the engine..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    Problema pa kasi di natin nakikita ang oto kapag PMS na sa casa.. Baka mamaya palpak gawa nila't salpakan ka ng pekeng oil filter ..

    Our vios has been using fully synthetic oil since 5k PMS.. Di ko lang alam kasi dad ko nagpapa-PMS eh.. Pati 10k PMS ata, change oil pero synthetic pa rin.. Sana naman wag na magkaroon nitong sludge.. Sa 15k PMS sasama na ako for me to know the status of the engine..
    actually, casas does change oils on our pms (i believe so) but ang hindi naten nalalaman if what oil ang nilalagay nila.

    example ko lang tong nalalaman ko sir ah. yung sa hyundai ....and so on.....

    1. customer orders for synthetic oil for change oil
    2. mechanic change the oil but with a regular oil (mineral siguro but not used)
    3. mechanic charges customer for synth oil
    4. somewhere somehow someone sells those unused but purchased (legally by the customer) hyundai engine oils (afaik, motul for diesel yung nakita ko nun, sells 1.2k for a gallon) outside the casa to anyone who's interested.

    kunan ko pics next time pag may order na ulit sa cousin ko. nahuli na ata yung taga hyundai e

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    Sa toyota bicutan glass yung wall ng service bay, so I actually saw my car being worked on during the PMS. And I personally saw the actual pouring of the synthetic oil I ordered .

    Pwera na lang kung may pagka-magician yung mga mechanic and marunong mag sleight-of-hand hehehehe.

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    sorry my bad, its oil filter lang. my bro and I do our own car maintenance, thats why we know. Yung sa semi-syn i read it somewhere here in tsikot. Also checking the dip stick now and then never hurts.


    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    di ko po nagets. you were starting with the fuel filter, then end up with the oil filter sir.

    pero i agree na din. a good OIL filter can add protection against sludge.

    but the most effective is being religious enough to properly maintain your vehicle (not just your engine) and meeting diligently your scheduled pms.
    Last edited by blue_gambit; April 3rd, 2010 at 02:12 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_gambit View Post
    ayusin lang natin,

    1.mineral: goes for 6mos or 5000kms
    2.semi-synthetic: 7500kms or 9mos
    3.fully synthetic: 10000 or 12mos ( *5000kms change filter + add'l oil)
    * whichever comes first mos or kms

    Yung sludge ng toyota engines, I think stems from the fuel filter used. if the oil is not filtered effectively sludge will develop cause the dirt deposits will mix with oil. the engine will "katok also if the filter is clogged cause oil wont lubricate the metal parts of the engine, and will cause overheat due to excessive friction. Now why the filter? cause there are a lot of fake filters out there, even some unscrupulous casa employees may pass to their fake filters to unsuspecting customers who think they have an original. The orig will be sold outside as it is highly priced at some auto supplies. Fake I am referring to are not the vic brand cause even that too is being faked. just my 2 cents
    according to many car enthusiasts and blokes, it's because of the vvt system in some ZZ engines (engine used in vios and altis) it gets impressive fuel consumption at the expense of engine oil life.

    i personally asked this question to a chemist with a giant oil company in the u.s., he said that most, if not all, sythetics today (SM-rated) should and will last 12 months. for our application (shorter travels) the distance is irrelevant. but he said, 10k kms is even conservative. it can go 15k.

    oil spoils daw the moment it gets contaminated, hence the 12 months life. (so store your unused oil in cold, dry places, away from sunlight, etc.)

    i change mine every 12 months. 6 years, 6 oil changes after, virtually no oil consumption. i use fully sythetic oil and oem filter.

    but for the zz engine-equipped cars, every 6 months.

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