what 10w-30 brand to choose?

[jehodl]

My corolla is up for an oil change soon and im planning to shift to the thinnest possible oil which is 10w-30. I checked the manual and 5w-30 is rated only for use in extremely cold weather (below 0). Engine is the 2E carburated one.

1.) is it to switch to 10w-30 oil, im currently on 15w-40? (not sure kung yun yung specs ng oil pero I use the yellow shell helix)

2.) can anyone suggest a good brand and estimated market price?

3.) is 10w-30 fully synthetic or semi-synthethic?

salamat marami.

[raine]

bro honda oil ganyan ang specs, mineral oil ito and cost only P8++ per gallon.
makakabili ka nito sa honda casa.

[marz]

royal purple, 550 to 600 pesos. tagal ko na to gamit sa altis.

[kenn.garcia]

royal purple, 550 to 600 pesos. tagal ko na to gamit sa altis.

Highly available po ba ang royal purple kahit sa mga Shell Station Service bays? planning to have an oil change ASAP.

thanks!

[kenn.garcia]

Went to ACE hardware today. Wala na kasing 10w30. Sabi nung attendant, pwede din daw yung Castrol na 10w40 so that's the one I got for 1K. Yung Shell Helix kasi na 10w40 is 1.4K.

Tama ba yung advice nung attendant saken? In any case I can return the item for replacement w/in 7 days naman.

[KinKyHOOTER]

My corolla is up for an oil change soon and im planning to shift to the thinnest possible oil which is 10w-30. I checked the manual and 5w-30 is rated only for use in extremely cold weather (below 0). Engine is the 2E carburated one.

1.) is it to switch to 10w-30 oil, im currently on 15w-40? (not sure kung yun yung specs ng oil pero I use the yellow shell helix)

2.) can anyone suggest a good brand and estimated market price?

3.) is 10w-30 fully synthetic or semi-synthethic?

salamat marami.

I also owned an EE100 with a 2E carb engine before. And I believe it requires a 20w-50...correct me if I'm wrong ah.

And since your car might be somewhat 17yrs old, I dont think changing to a thin oil will do it good.

I suggest you stick with 20w-50 na oil. You can buy a liter from Toyota at Php 155 each, Toyota oil is manufactured by Chevron (Caltex). Shell Helix Super (Yellow) is also 20w-50 and costs around Php 215 per liter.

What I did before is use the Toyota oil and change oil every 3k kms reading and change sparkplugs also to Toyota Denso at Php 55 each. Since Php 155 per liter, hindi masakit sa budget and alaga pa makina.

You can try 10w-40 if you want, Shell Helix Plus (Blue) costs Php 320 per liter......if 10w-40 and 10w-30 or 5w-30 does not drip out of your engine overnight then good.....but the bottomline is, if the viscosity is fit for the age of your engine.

[speed unlimited]

Sa Toyota 2E na makina ko gamit ko iyong Mobil Super 1000 15w 40 multigrade.
1 gal. 800 plus sa Ace hardware okay naman.

[kenn.garcia]

Sa Toyota 2E na makina ko gamit ko iyong Mobil Super 1000 15w 40 multigrade.
1 gal. 800 plus sa Ace hardware okay naman.

Hindi po ba for diesel engines and 15w40?

[meledson]

kung hindi mag leak ang 5W-40 or 5W-50 magandang gamitin ito sa makina.

ang advantage ng mas lower first number ay kung at what temp ma achive ng oil ang tamang viscosity na kailangan ng makina. iyong upper number naman ay ang para sa upper limit na tama ang viscosity.

before I was planning to use the toyota mineral oil na 20W-50. kaso paraang malapot at matagal mag warm up. so nag 10W-40 na lang ako ng semi synthetic. good for 7,000 km, pero magpapalit ako every 5,000 km.

[mister.swabe]

ang SAE numbering system ay ginawa para sa pag grado ng viscosity o lapot. Yung letrang W sa unang numero ay notation sa "winterized oil" na may kinalaman sa paggamit sa malamig (below zero) ambient air temperature na lugar

50 - malapot, pang 2.5 liter engine gas o diesel, pwedeng 2.0
40- pang kotse o diesel na 1.6 liter displacement, pwedeng 1.8
30 - pang winter sa 1.4 liter engine

Kung mas malaki ang engine displacement, mas mataas ang rpm ng makina. kaya kung SAE 50 ang gamit sa 1.6 liter engine, hirap ito. Kung 30 SAE naman gamit sa 2.0 liter engine, manipis ang oil kaya maaaring mag-wear ang mga rotating components - bearing, cam, piston ring.

http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/
http://www.autoeducation.com/autoshop101/oil-change.htm

Para sa mga kotse sa pilipinas, walang gaanong pinag iba ang 15W-30 sa 5W-30, dahil parehong SAE 30. Ang winterized number -15W, o 5W ay mahalaga lang kung gaano kalamig ang air temperature kung iistart ang engine - halimbawa difference between Alberta, Canada o Florida, USA.

Ang quality ng oil ay malalaman lang sa API service class rating na gamit. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ervice_classes

Ang mga engine oil ngayon ay multi-use , pwedeng pang diesel o pang gasoline, pero kailangan tingnan ang API class na angkop sa gamit nyong sasakyan.

Ang mga rating sa diesel oil, a CJ-4, CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-2. ang letter C ay para sa compression ignited engine. Mas mataas na send letter, mas maganda ang performance at quality.

Ang para sa gas engine naman ay SM, SL and SJ. Gaya sa taas, kung mas mataas ang pangalawang letra, mas maganda ang quality at performance. Ang letrang ay nangangahulugan na para sa spark ignited engine.

Para sa fuel economy at pag maintain ng engine condition. mas maganda gamitin ang fully synthetic oil. ExxonMobil ang nagproproduce ng fully synthetic base oils na gamit at ang ibang oil company ay bumibili lang sa exxonmobil. Kaya Mobil synthetic oil gamit ko, hehe.

[KinKyHOOTER]

^^^^^
mister.swabe

Nice! Salamat sa mga kaalaman. Mas lalo po akong naliwanagan.

[mister.swabe]

*Raine, Ang mga engine oil na bigay ng mga casa ay good quality lang (sa good-better-best classification) na maaring supply ng Chevron, Shell, Petron o ExxonMobil. sa Honda casa, ito ay Honda branded lang pero ay may gawa a ng mga nabanggit ko na mga kompanya. Baka maximum 7000 km lang siguro at pagkataps ang magdrop off na ang performance dahil sa depletion ng additives. Better buy the more established lube oils from known companies.

Sa Mobil1 ph website, merong diskusyon tungkol sa anong benefit ang makukuha sa pag gamit ng synthetic oil. Eto ang intro ng video showing:

Bago ang lahat, hindi ako taga Mobil ha. Ako ay chemist na nagwowork abroad na sumusubaybay sa motor racing gaya ng FIA-Formula 1. Ang paborito kong team ay Mclaren (partner ng Mercedez Benz at Mobil).

"Bill Maxwell, Distinguished Engineering Adviser Technical, for Mobil 1 Research Team at ExxonMobil's Global Research & Engineering Center in Paulsboro, NJ, says he's not surprised that many car owners are uncertain about the proper ways to take care of their vehicles.
“Often, people feel intimidated by the numerous automotive care products available on the market, and are uncertain about the pros and potential cons of those products,” Maxwell said.
Thus, “many people perform only the basic maintenance needed for their vehicles or only react when a real problem has already occurred. And by then, it's often too late, leading to costly repairs.”
While significant advancements in engine technology have, over the past 10-to-15 years, yielded a number of changes in maintenance practices, Maxwell believes that there is one area in which consumers can easily eliminate the confusion -- selecting motor oil.
“There is no question that high-performance synthetic motor oils are the way to go because they provide the best performance for all types of engines," Maxwell says. "The best thing automotive service technicians can advise their customers to do is to follow proper manufacturer-recommended oil-change intervals and use synthetic oils.”
In the video below, Maxwell sets the record straight on many popular myths about synthetic lubricants, helping drivers understand the true advantages that synthetics offer."

[s_quilicot]

Get the Royal Purple brand. I'm using the 5w-30 viscosity for my Altis. I tried using it until 15,000 and still good (brownish palang ang color).

My Crdi trooper and E150 uses 5w-30 too. I do get better mileage.

HTH

*Mr.Swabe

Salamat sa pagpapaliwanag, sir.

[jehodl]

I also owned an EE100 with a 2E carb engine before. And I believe it requires a 20w-50...correct me if I'm wrong ah.

And since your car might be somewhat 17yrs old, I dont think changing to a thin oil will do it good.

I suggest you stick with 20w-50 na oil. You can buy a liter from Toyota at Php 155 each, Toyota oil is manufactured by Chevron (Caltex). Shell Helix Super (Yellow) is also 20w-50 and costs around Php 215 per liter.

What I did before is use the Toyota oil and change oil every 3k kms reading and change sparkplugs also to Toyota Denso at Php 55 each. Since Php 155 per liter, hindi masakit sa budget and alaga pa makina.

You can try 10w-40 if you want, Shell Helix Plus (Blue) costs Php 320 per liter......if 10w-40 and 10w-30 or 5w-30 does not drip out of your engine overnight then good.....but the bottomline is, if the viscosity is fit for the age of your engine.

my car only has 69k millage and it was baught in 2004... so no problems naman siguro... I HOPE..

[jehodl]

I just put in the RP 10w-30 oil today, will have the car settings fine tuned tomorrow. so far, wala naman akong napansing difference. I still have my fingers crossed though.

[raine]

*Raine, Ang mga engine oil na bigay ng mga casa ay good quality lang (sa good-better-best classification) na maaring supply ng Chevron, Shell, Petron o ExxonMobil. sa Honda casa, ito ay Honda branded lang pero ay may gawa a ng mga nabanggit ko na mga kompanya. Baka maximum 7000 km lang siguro at pagkataps ang magdrop off na ang performance dahil sa depletion ng additives. Better buy the more established lube oils from known companies.

Sa Mobil1 ph website, merong diskusyon tungkol sa anong benefit ang makukuha sa pag gamit ng synthetic oil. Eto ang intro ng video showing:

Bago ang lahat, hindi ako taga Mobil ha. Ako ay chemist na nagwowork abroad na sumusubaybay sa motor racing gaya ng FIA-Formula 1. Ang paborito kong team ay Mclaren (partner ng Mercedez Benz at Mobil).

"Bill Maxwell, Distinguished Engineering Adviser Technical, for Mobil 1 Research Team at ExxonMobil's Global Research & Engineering Center in Paulsboro, NJ, says he's not surprised that many car owners are uncertain about the proper ways to take care of their vehicles.
“Often, people feel intimidated by the numerous automotive care products available on the market, and are uncertain about the pros and potential cons of those products,” Maxwell said.
Thus, “many people perform only the basic maintenance needed for their vehicles or only react when a real problem has already occurred. And by then, it's often too late, leading to costly repairs.”
While significant advancements in engine technology have, over the past 10-to-15 years, yielded a number of changes in maintenance practices, Maxwell believes that there is one area in which consumers can easily eliminate the confusion -- selecting motor oil.
“There is no question that high-performance synthetic motor oils are the way to go because they provide the best performance for all types of engines," Maxwell says. "The best thing automotive service technicians can advise their customers to do is to follow proper manufacturer-recommended oil-change intervals and use synthetic oils.”
In the video below, Maxwell sets the record straight on many popular myths about synthetic lubricants, helping drivers understand the true advantages that synthetics offer."

bro kung palit naman ng oil after 5000km at its price compare sa other brands masmaganda pa rin ito, since sabi mo ng after 7000km mag dedegrade ang performance ng oil na ito.

[raine]

and mukha namang sufficient na ang mabibigay na protection ng mineral oil since wala naman siyang mga mods at nagrerequired ng higher protection.
kung over protection ang binibigay ng oil na hindi naman na gagamit at papalitan mo rin sayang lang pera.

[number001]

Advisable to follow what the manual says regarding what kind of oil viscosity can take.

Honda CASA is the only one I know with 10w-30 mineral oil. Php 180/liter

[PSI]

how much po ba ngayon cahnge oil ng honda for 1.3 city....bale oil/oil filter/ labor lang... thanks!!

[harold13]

may ganun pala sa honda casa. mas maganda pa din gamitan ng mga synthetic.