Urgent! (can't find non-E10-gasoline)

[renzo_d10]

I hate e-10, period. It gives my car poor fuel economy thus making me go to gas stations more often than before.

And I don't know if you really would consider my " experience " as hard starting since, it still starts in one click ( thankfully ) but the " redondo " is longer than how it was before.

[james00112233]

Naglaho parang bula yung fans ni Mr Sugar Baron Politician nung dumami na naka try ng ethanol a ...

wala akong idea kung sinong politician yung nagpatupad nyan... pwede ko bang malaman kung sino yun para kung tatakbo man yan sa eleksyon eh hindi ko iboboto...
sorry for the OT...

[renzo_d10]

^ si miguel zubiri yata ang author ng biofuels act. ;)

[zner2525]

kahit pala Extreme97 ng seaoil may E10.. anyone have tried this? 40.90 lang ang price.. ang mura nito with 97+ octane rating kumpara sa iba.. yun nga lang, may halong E10.. Blaze has 96+ octane rating..

[d4nny]

It's sad that many disagree with the Bio-Fuel law. If we look beyond our parochial concerns we will see that it benefits the entire nation. It is one of the few laws passed in this decade that placed the welfare of the many over the concerns of the few.

In the long term, the positive impact of bio fuel use on the environment in terms of reduced harmful emissions far outweighs the impact it may have on a portion of the population who owns vehicles that might be adversely affected. Let's not forget that our vehicles burn fuel, and each time we drive, we contribute to polluting the environment. By reducing our carbon footprint we're decreasing the risk of ill-effects to millions of other non-car owning Filipinos.

Add to that the beneficial effect to our agricultural sector. Let's not forget that ethanol is derived from crops like corn which we grow locally. Contrast this to petroleum which we import, a burden that contributes to the depletion of our country's limited dollar reserves.

But the resentment is understandable. Laws such as this that places national interest over sectoral concerns goes through a phase of unpopularity, that is until the long term effects are felt. If we look at other countries, we will see that the Philippines is late in joining the bandwagon. Ethanol mix is higher in other countries and they're starting to feel the benefits in terms of cleaner air and reduced dependence on imported oil.

[ghosthunter]

It's sad that many disagree with the Bio-Fuel law. If we look beyond our parochial concerns we will see that it benefits the entire nation. It is one of the few laws passed in this decade that placed the welfare of the many over the concerns of the few.

There may be people who sees the Bio-Fuels Law beyond the printed words on paper.

In the long term, the positive impact of bio fuel use on the environment in terms of reduced harmful emissions far outweighs the impact it may have on a portion of the population who owns vehicles that might be adversely affected. Let's not forget that our vehicles burn fuel, and each time we drive, we contribute to polluting the environment. By reducing our carbon footprint we're decreasing the risk of ill-effects to millions of other non-car owning Filipinos.

Add to that the beneficial effect to our agricultural sector. Let's not forget that ethanol is derived from crops like corn which we grow locally. Contrast this to petroleum which we import, a burden that contributes to the depletion of our country's limited dollar reserves.

Have you considered the fact that the Philippines still imports the ethanol used to mix/blend into gasoline to make E10 gasoline? That the act of importing ethanol offsets whatever "green"' contribution E10 gasoline might have on the environment?

Have you considered that the Philippine agriculture sector cannot grow enough food crops that we have to import tons just to supply enough for our daily food needs? And now you want to exchange land used to grow food to grow fuel?

Have you considered that the supposed savings in our foreign currency reserves is not being realized simply because we are still buying foreign fuels (imported ethanol).

Have you also considered that burning E10 gasoline actually makes cars burn more fuel per kilometer or less kilometers per full tank of gasoline as compared to using regular unlead gasoline? That alone should be alarming because it means cars have a higher carbon emissions with E10 than without.

But the resentment is understandable. Laws such as this that places national interest over sectoral concerns goes through a phase of unpopularity, that is until the long term effects are felt. If we look at other countries, we will see that the Philippines is late in joining the bandwagon. Ethanol mix is higher in other countries and they're starting to feel the benefits in terms of cleaner air and reduced dependence on imported oil.

Other countries may have higher ethanol mixes but the consumers are still give the choice of buying what kind of gasoline they want.

Joining the popular bandwagon may not be the right choice for everyone, especially since the Philippines has yet to become food self-sufficient (again). Allocating more land for fuel use will have effects on food prices and will lead to increasing food imports.

I am not saying we should not join the "bandwagon". Just that our country has more pressing needs that have to be addressed. Trying to do it all at the same time might just end up with getting nothing accomplished.

[ghosthunter]

If the government is serious about cleaner air, then they should mandate for a cleaner diesel fuel like what Singapore is using.

The one major issue diesel engine have is the poor quality of diesel fuel we have available. This results in black smoke from the tail-pipes of trucks, SUVs, buses.

No amount of calibration, cleaning, tuning can help if the fuel is so dirty.

[zner2525]

^ wow.. very well said sir ghosthunter.. thanks for the info!

[aijie28]

Sana mag Welga na no-E10-gasoline im sure madami makikisama.. dapat buhusan ng gasoline na may E10 tapos silaban yung gumawa niyan:burn:

hirap maghanap ng walang E10 na gasoline kaya ginawa ko no choice kung saan saan ako nag papagasolina tapos ngayon di ako happy sa andar ng 1996 carb type vanette ko. minsan parang may nag ccrush na metal sa loob ng engine

[zner2525]

mga sir, pati ba Shell V-Power gasoline may halong E10? binabasa ko sa site ng shell, wala akong mahanap na E10 eh.. ang nakita ko lang:

Shell V-Power is also a high-octane unleaded petrol (99 RON) designed to help maximize the performance of many modern engines.

taas din pala RON ng V-power..