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March 27th, 2008 11:38 PM #1
tsikoteers pros and cons naman regarding of turbo chargers and intercoolers ..
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March 28th, 2008 12:56 AM #2Turbo in a "built" motor by a qualified tuner Bolt on low boost kit why? because turbo + high compression + low octane/quality fuel is not a good combination. You need quality internals too.
A knowledgable tuner can easily give you 15-20 PSI boost without issues which will definitely make you happy. Speed = Money If you can't afford forged pistons, rods, ti springs etc. be happy with what you have. If money is no concern and your tuner cannot guarantee that your engine will not be damaged by the constant 15-20 PSI boost maybe you are talking to the wrong guy because 13-15 PSI is quite normal for a STOCK turbocharged car now a days be it a WRX/STI, Evo, or Mazdaspeed.
To save you all the trouble just buy a turbocharged car.Last edited by Si 06; March 28th, 2008 at 01:01 AM.
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March 28th, 2008 07:37 AM #3
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March 28th, 2008 07:43 AM #4
intercooler turbos use pre-cooled exhaust gases (cool air=denser air=better fuel/air combustion) to improve hp. activates at a certain rpm depending on how it's set up.
at idle, it'll be the same as non-turboed normal displacement car because the turbo blades wind down and stop pushing air into the engine.
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March 28th, 2008 09:00 AM #5San po nyo balak install turbo charger? Gasoline or diesel engine, EFI or carburated.
In general turbochargers are specific for engines, they are not simple bolt-on device. The engine should be materially ang functionally ready for the turbocharger you want to install or else you will end up with a wreaked engine.
For a carburated engine here is a link for a DIY water/methanol injection device:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...earth/me3.html
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March 28th, 2008 09:22 AM #6
Upping the power/torque of a car requires equivalent improvements in your suspension, chassis stiffness, brakes, wheels and tires.
So let's say you get a PhP135k turbo kit from Speedlab and bolt it on to your Jazz or City. The way I see it, that's only part of the cost. If you want to really use the power on the road the rest of the car has to be fit to handle it. So spend the following:
- PhP67k on TEIN Coilovers
- PhP40k (est) on a better brake package
- PhP40k (est) on 17" wheels and tires
- PhP20k on chassis stiffening (strut braces, anti-roll bars/sway bars, etc)
In short you end up with a car that is easily more expensive than what you got it for.
Over at Jazz-City United we have a member who turbo'ed his Jazz 1.5. Total cost of the car plus upgrades was a reported PhP1.5M; he's selling it now on a "sacrifice sale" price of PhP1.1M.
My two cents...remember "power is nothing without control"
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March 28th, 2008 09:23 AM #7
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March 28th, 2008 11:22 AM #8
It would depend greatly upon what the car's owner if the turbo/intercooler upgrade is worth the money spent on it.
In comparison to upgrading using all-motor mods vs turbo upgrade to achieve similar HP targets, the turbo upgrade will achieve greater HP gains for the same money spent.
If you are just using the car to commute from point A to point B, having a turbo/intercooler will generally not be worth it unless the performance of the current car is so poor that it takes a calendar to measure it's 0-100kph acceleration time. This point becomes more important when the car is taken to areas with many tall hills or mountains to travel over.
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