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    Quote Originally Posted by brushless View Post
    There's already the front grille for air flow to keep the engine bay cool. Why the need to do that? Design flaw? It's not a sealed system.
    low end, wala talaga sealed, meron vent.

    partially open thermostats perhaps? hence their need to open their hoods?

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    They can always do a mod and install a hood vent. That would also look cool as well. LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    there is only one temp gauge. yesterday after we got back from punta fuego the engine area was really warm. "radiant heat" this is the warmth im referring to.

    the radiant heat was very bad. when we were idling at fronte grabe the engine area you can feel it talaga. when the mech removed the thermostat housing the coolant was steaming. sabi nga ng mech, its looks new! medyo engot lng sya, all thermostats look new in a sealed system(santa fe). then this evening the engine was warm but not as warm. drove from marikina-bgc-marikina for a client meet.

    the santa fe has two cooling fans. one for the radiator and one for the condenser. these two were enough to keep the temperature in check but the radiant heat was bad as well as the fc and the AC performance.



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    I see that you were referring to the radiant heat which I became confused. How about the coolant lost, can you explain how that happened?

    I've read this thing but coolant lost wasn't mentioned:

    Do I need to Change My Car Thermostat? | BlueDevil Products

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    6km/l before thermostat change
    7.3+ after (no express way)

    both 60+ liters (full tank method)

    happy happy joy joy [emoji16]



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    Last edited by StockEngine; May 21st, 2018 at 10:42 AM.

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    ^ Is this for your Elantra? What were the symptoms aside from the radiant heat and bad FC? Did the temp gauge rise above its normal level?

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    Bro stock, do use an obd scanner/reader?

    It would've been interesting to compare the working temp of your cooling system pre & post thermostat change

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woof View Post
    ^ Is this for your Elantra? What were the symptoms aside from the radiant heat and bad FC? Did the temp gauge rise above its normal level?
    results are for the diesel santa fe... traffic sucks! nag megamall kami twice! [emoji28]

    elantra does 12+ after and 10+ before..

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Bro stock, do use an obd scanner/reader?

    It would've been interesting to compare the working temp of your cooling system pre & post thermostat change

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do
    i didnt ..

    santa fe has two fans. one for the radiator and one for the condenser. while idling here in c5 traffic under the scorching sun. malamig padin [emoji16]

    this c5-ortigas overpass is about to collapse [emoji52]

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    elantra does 12+ after and 10+ before..
    Whaaaaat? That is seriously good FC for an Elantra! Is this the 1.6 Gamma or 1.8 nu engine? M/T or A/T? Average speed for that mileage?

    Baka naman M/T pure highway driving yan running at 80 km/h? He he....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woof View Post
    Whaaaaat? That is seriously good FC for an Elantra! Is this the 1.6 Gamma or 1.8 nu engine? M/T or A/T? Average speed for that mileage?

    Baka naman pure highway yan running at 80 pm/h? He he....
    its my car outside philippines. 2.0 MPI engine 6at.
    its got 260,000km too [emoji6]

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    results are for the diesel santa fe... traffic sucks! nag megamall kami twice! [emoji28]

    elantra does 12+ after and 10+ before..

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    bro stock, nasa 89-92c yung working temp sa obd ko. pero pagbukas engine bay, di ko kaya yung init LOL

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    question: ano epekto (kung meron man) pag walang thermostat ang cooling system ng oto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    question: ano epekto (kung meron man) pag walang thermostat ang cooling system ng oto?
    sabi nila, mas matagal ma reach ang ideal running temp; so in a way, higher FC siguro

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    question: ano epekto (kung meron man) pag walang thermostat ang cooling system ng oto?
    ito bro magandang explantion at clear na examples:

    This ideal engine-operating temperature accomplishes several goals: It helps engine oil to lubricate efficiently and to remove harmful deposits. It reduces emissions and gas consumption, and contributes to engine performance.

    Thus, the thermostat has an impact on your engine's health and longevity.

    A failed thermostat will prevent the engine from operating within its ideal temperature range and affect its performance. For example:

    A thermostat stuck opened will cause a continuous flow of coolant, resulting in a lower operating temperature. Since the oil operates below temperature, the condition accelerates parts' wear, reducing engine efficiency and increasing emissions over time.
    On the other hand, a thermostat stuck in the closed position will prevent coolant flow and cause the temperature to steadily rise. If you fail to notice and keep your engine running, in a matter of minutes your engine self-destructs. Literally.

    Either way, your engine will suffer damage. The difference is just in the amount of time it takes.
    taken from: Do I Need to Replace My Car Thermostat? | AxleAddict
    Last edited by baludoy; May 23rd, 2018 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by box_type View Post
    question: ano epekto (kung meron man) pag walang thermostat ang cooling system ng oto?
    I tried this and the ecu kept warming up the engine.( malamig sa bundok) resulting to bad fc. even sa highway na napakainit. lalamig agad makina lol. taas ng fc. anyways bought a new one to replace the modified "open" thermostat.

    there are more bad things na pwede mangyari..

    dont modify!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    ito bro magandang explantion at clear na examples:






    taken from: Do I Need to Replace My Car Thermostat? | AxleAddict
    if the manufacturer did not think the car needed a thermostat for tropical climate cars, it would have not installed them in our local cars. it would have effected savings in manufacture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if the manufacturer did not think the car needed a thermostat for tropical climate cars, it would have not installed them in our local cars. it would have effected savings in manufacture.
    This is something I can't explain to this radiator guy as he kept suggesting that I remove the thermostat. He said that old cars are better without it. He further explained that should it get stuck in close position, it will cause a lot of damage and unnecessary repairs.

    Another guy, he suggested that I replace the radiator with a bigger one. This in effect will save gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    This is something I can't explain to this radiator guy as he kept suggesting that I remove the thermostat. He said that old cars are better without it. He further explained that should it get stuck in close position, it will cause a lot of damage and unnecessary repairs.

    Another guy, he suggested that I replace the radiator with a bigger one. This in effect will save gas.
    kanto engineers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    kanto engineers!

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    Feeling nila kasi bro na beat nila yun system [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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    Just leave it as is. Replace if necessary.

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