Remote bypass oil filtration

**miko101130** · May 9th, 2012 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by timo07

dvldoc, what are the parameters to be looked at?

Bro, basically pag nag pa oil analysis ang tinitignan is Elemental wear analysis, yung mga iron,lead,copper,silicon,chromium etc, na nasa oil mong ginamit, para malaman ang wear sa engine, pero it needs to be done in pattern, kung isang beses lang oil analysis hindi kasi conclusive unless na several times at regular interval ang analysis para meh mag emerge na pattern...

tapos yung TBN (total base number), kung ilan pa natitira na TBN to fight the acidity
then kung gusto mo pwede din yung (TAN) total acid number naman,

Then lastly yung mga fuel count at soot count at coolant count on the oil...

**miko101130** · May 9th, 2012 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

^ But CI-4 Plus can be used in passenger vehicles esp if you want extended oil intervals. Mas bagay siya for that. Basta better pa rin CI-4 plus kesa sa CI-4 lang but kung costly naman kasi yung napiling mong oil, maybe hindi na nga dapat. Puwede na CI-4 na lang.

ang bilis kasi na over shadow ang CI-4 plus nang CJ-4....

minadali kasi yung Oil category na toh for the fast changing emission regulations which the engine manufacturers can't cope with.... it was designed in parallel during the development of many engines, so nung natapos design nung mga engines, the oil category is now late for emission standards...

CI-4 plus is definitely created and intended to extend oil change and improve soot handling on engines requiring that specification.

**tuazon7** · May 9th, 2012 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by miko101130

ang bilis kasi na over shadow ang CI-4 plus nang CJ-4....

minadali kasi yung Oil category na toh for the fast changing emission regulations which the engine manufacturers can't cope with.... it was designed in parallel during the development of many engines, so nung natapos design nung mga engines, the oil category is now late for emission standards...

CI-4 plus is definitely created and intended to extend oil change and improve soot handling on engines requiring that specification.

Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers

**Retz** · May 9th, 2012 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by tuazon7

Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers

Sir, ung Euro II hindi ba greater than 500ppm?

**tuazon7** · May 10th, 2012 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Retz

Sir, ung Euro II hindi ba greater than 500ppm?

sir Retz, yes. those are the limits/max. Seaoil before was even better at 10ppm (Euro V) but reverted to Euro III when crude started to become pricey again...

**Ry_Tower** · May 10th, 2012 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by tuazon7

Got a response from Royal Purple Technical Manager for international markets. Will post it tomorrow, am on mobile now. Basically, what he is saying was that CJ-4 oils are okay for 500ppm diesel fuels (Euro II, which the Big 3 has) as the TBN is still within 20x of the sulfur content. That makes using Euro IV fuels (Unioil and Eastern) much much better. But since CI-4+ oils has a bit more of the anti-wear properties, it is still preferred to use this for additional engine protection. But for protecting both our engines and the environment, CJ-4 should be the choice...cheers

Nice one sir tuazon7. We will wait for the link.

**miked** · May 10th, 2012 12:33 PM

actually, yung post ni miko regarding sa oil selection is a quick guide. 1-2 pages back ata.

1. sulfur content in diesel oil (500 ppm ang boundary usually)

2. emissions-compliant ba yung vehicle (DPF, SCR, EGR, etc.)

**miked** · May 10th, 2012 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

I made some comparison of diesel oils popular here. HTH in your quest of the ideal oil for you. Prices are based here in my place so it will vary.

Some are also made to order like Gulf oils na direct sa national distributor and per case dapat order. Cheap per liter but expensive as a whole.

ngayon ko lang nascrutinize ng maige ito....mas mataas pa ang TBN nung gulf CF kesa sa gulf CI4. i suspect mas mataas additive package ng Gulf CF. kaya hindi na inilista yung Z & P. i maybe correct on this one.

RT san mo nakuha tong file na to? tia

**miked** · May 10th, 2012 01:02 PM

^^or sariling compilation mo yung data na yan.....makagawa nga rin ako ng local file ko. sa tagal kong nagresearch dito eh diko naisip yan. puros download lang ng pdf etc. hehehe