gas saving device for diesel engines...

[Leroy Brown]

pardon me if there is a similar thread discussing this...

I installed a gas saving device (it comes in a chrome cylindrical casing) that supposedly will make my truck ('99 4WD Frontier) more efficient (more kms/liter, increase in power, less emissions, etc.) and so far, it seems to be working...

I've been browsing through several threads about Khaos and its effects on the engine and since the device I have (I think its called GASSAVES) supposedly works the same way does it follow that it will have the same effect on my engine?

May mga gumagamit ba sa inyo ng device na 'to? Kamusta naman epekto sa mga sasakyan nyo?

[ILuvDetailing]

I know a couple of people (one is a fellow tsikoteer) who installed Khaos in their vehicles, minimal or no gains whatsoever, they removed and sold it.

[falken]

If it works the same way as Khaos, it'll have the same effect on your engine.

[johnsquare]

ako gas saver gamit ko din. :D masmura sya versus the khaos :d i felt na mastipid nga yng fuel consumption and knowing that NOx would be the effect after the day we installed it :p anyways, mas meron laman (content) naman ang gas saver compare sa khaos which is purely restricted air. but then again i may be wrong...

anyways, ang mileage ko went from 5-6 m/lkiter to 6-7 km/lkiter.. so ok naman :d

[BIKEMAN]

Hi! Has anyone here tired this relatively new electronic gas-saving device branded as AERONOX? I find it way too expensive. I'm just wondering if anybody here na nakabili at nakasubok na nito at sulit na naman or just another snake gadget out there to get millions form kawawang cowboys. Salamat.

[rion]

knowing that NOx would be the effect after the day we installed it :p

hmm... looks like it is disabling the EGR functions...

you can remove your EGR (exhaust gas exhaust gas recirculator or exhaust gas recycler) if you want...

though it's been a debate that it EGR hurts performance or it hurts engines...

[russpogi]

Here's my take on fuel saving devices:

"I believe that the engineers working at automotive manufacturing firms spent time in school, graduate studies and intensive (not to mention, expensive) research. So, THEY would engineer the engines that they design and make to perform at at its best. Fuel efficiency and power (torque) are taken in as primary factors in the design of the engine. THEREFORE, no fuel-saving device actually work on any of the modern engines that we have because they are now performing at optimal levels."

Check these threads:
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36167
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15780

Do you really want to save gas? Check these out:
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33194
http://fuelsaving.info/

my two cents po

[speedyfix]

you've been conned by con artists.

[ghosthunter]

Hi! Has anyone here tired this relatively new electronic gas-saving device branded as AERONOX? I find it way too expensive. I'm just wondering if anybody here na nakabili at nakasubok na nito at sulit na naman or just another snake gadget out there to get millions form kawawang cowboys. Salamat.

It would be useful if you can post a link to the website or a picture of the device or even its brochure.

[XTO]

IMO. Considering na effective nga. It’s just very minimal. How about the
risk factor na pwedeng idulot sa makina. Ilang libo ang halaga n’yan? na
ang benepisyong kapalit ay baryang katipiran sa krudo.

[BIKEMAN]

Thanks for the replies guys. Actually, I haven't bought one yet. Besides, I asked for a documented dyno results to support their powergain claims, but they couldn't provide one so FORGET IT! Ok lang sana na walang ititipid sa gas basta they can support their claim na may substantial power gains like that of nitrous dyno results kaso wala.

[BIKEMAN]

I'm reluctant to post any pics or literature of the device unless they'll pay me to do so. It works like an "electronic nitrous" daw by converting certain amount of atmospheric air into nitrous oxide through "mini electrical storms". According to them, the amount of converted nitrous is so little to damage an engine (so no need for solenoids and/or separate fuel supply line or nozzles) but quite enough to effect noticeable gains in torque and power. The problem is, wala silang maipakita na documented claim nila. Dyno testing is one definitive way to show what the device got.

[boy astig]

This information I got from my mechanic-friend....

If you want to install a fuel saving device, you'll need a vehicle with an engine displacement above 3000 cc. Fuel gains will be close to what the device is claiming. Any engine lower than that displacement, you're better off without it.

Its better to practice driving techniques that can help save you fuel rather than make a frankenstein out of your ride and end up crying for help in the end.

[rion]

It works like an "electronic nitrous" daw by converting certain amount of atmospheric air into nitrous oxide through "mini electrical storms".

if that device really converts air into nitrous oxide, I bet it will make your engine hotter.

but I don't think that gadget can create NOx.

though a high compression engine can actually create NOx during the high temperature combustion process...

[4JGtootsie]

I dont beleive in those gadgets and their claims.

As a diesel engine enthusiast, i have only one suggestion.

IMPROVE ENGINE BREATHING.

Clean air filters as often as possible.

Avoid any air flow restriction.

The colder air that goes in the engine the better the combustion.

[rion]

I could be wrong, that gadget could create NOx pala...

but NOx is a useless environment hazard combustion...

it's N2O these gadgets are claiming. that I doubt...

[oknamlarry]

Buy those fuel saving devices at your own risk. To me, none of them is effective.
A proper and regular maintenance is the best way to make your vehicle fuel efficient. Your driving habit and/or style may also help.

[gearspeed]

Kung gusto ng iba maglagay ng ganyan basta ako hindi ako maglalagay niyan sa sasakyan namin.Mahirap na.

[mbeige]

If you want a gas saving device, run waste vegetable oil with the proper filtration and heating equipment. Just get the used vegetable oil from restaurants and what not, follow the proper procedure for filtration, sedimentation and adding fuel catalyst of your choice (plus some RUG for added combustibility and some diesel for lubrication). What do you get?

(nearly) FREE FUEL!

[rion]

I rather place my bets in motul engine oil. up to 50k before oil change, or even just 20k will save you more money...

but I don't want to bet right now, wait muna ako testimonial ni sir speedyfix.