oil sludge in toyota altis 2003 engine

[SkyFlakes88]

[QUOTE=SkyFlakes88;2607926]Sir yun sludge po depende kung gaano kadami sa loob nang engine pero kumakapit ito on all parts inside nang engine. Sinasakal nito ang makina nyo until kumatok na lang makina nyo dahil not sufficient lubrication inside. Paunti unti yan tapos bigla na lang kakatok na makina nyo. Usual po yan pag masyadong matagal change oil intervals at long oil use. D po yan natutunaw basta sa flushing except siguro kung diesel yun ilalagay nyo na pang flush. Which will eat away all sludges pero i wouldn't recommend this as it will shorten the life of your engine also. Yun mga rubber parts titigas with diesel flushing.

[SkyFlakes88]

Sir all you need is to clean your whole engine to get rid of all the sludge inside and you can only do that if you will open it up to know what needs to be done. Compression test will not solve your problem. If the mechanic can carefully remove the gasket maybe you will just buy what gasket is needed not all of it. Unless you know what is inside your engine and the extent of any damage if there are. Hindi po kayo makaka decide kung ano gagawin.

[SkyFlakes88]

I see. yun didisassemble ang engine at cleaning nagpaquote/estimate ako sa speedyfix, ang binigay na estimate is 20k. dunno if ito yun tukoy nilang process na gagawin. Basta hindi pa daw general overhaul, bubuksan at lininisin pa lang daw sa loob. At kung may mga parts na sira, pwede pa daw tumaas yun price. May natanong naman ako na isa pang shop, they will disassemble the engine and clean it and do general overhaul, estimate is from 25k-50k (50k being the worst case) if madaming kailangan palitan sa loob. Tinawagan ko naman yun isang recommend ng isang member dito na mechanic, he is offering 8k for his labor and handa daw ako 10k for the parts na papalitan. Pero yun mga metal na sira, sarili daw nya imomold, hindi nya idadaan sa machine shop which i think parang medyo feel ko baka magkaproblema. And sabi ng isang friend ko na medyo marunong sa car, kulang daw yun 10k for materials if madaming nasira sa loob ng engine. And hindi daw necessarily na ibababa nya yun engine pwede daw yun dukot lang, dunno what does he mean by that.
Let your engine be dissasembled para malinis lahat and then you can assess the damage if meron. Kung wala reassembly lang and may peace of mind na kayo. I think d naman nasira yan kasi d nyo naman natakbo nang malayo at d naman huminto pr tumirik e. Baka cleaning lang at check mga sensors. Bale overhauling gasket,pang change oil lang siguro bibilhin nyo at yun labor nang mechanic. Since nababa nyo na rin baka yun timing belt or water pump pa check nyo na din. After that you're good to go na po.

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I see. yun didisassemble ang engine at cleaning nagpaquote/estimate ako sa speedyfix, ang binigay na estimate is 20k. dunno if ito yun tukoy nilang process na gagawin. Basta hindi pa daw general overhaul, bubuksan at lininisin pa lang daw sa loob. At kung may mga parts na sira, pwede pa daw tumaas yun price. May natanong naman ako na isa pang shop, they will disassemble the engine and clean it and do general overhaul, estimate is from 25k-50k (50k being the worst case) if madaming kailangan palitan sa loob. Tinawagan ko naman yun isang recommend ng isang member dito na mechanic, he is offering 8k for his labor and handa daw ako 10k for the parts na papalitan. Pero yun mga metal na sira, sarili daw nya imomold, hindi nya idadaan sa machine shop which i think parang medyo feel ko baka magkaproblema. And sabi ng isang friend ko na medyo marunong sa car, kulang daw yun 10k for materials if madaming nasira sa loob ng engine. And hindi daw necessarily na ibababa nya yun engine pwede daw yun dukot lang, dunno what does he mean by that.
Let your engine be dissasembled para malinis lahat and then you can assess the damage if meron. Kung wala reassembly lang and may peace of mind na kayo. I think d naman nasira yan kasi d nyo naman natakbo nang malayo at d naman huminto pr tumirik e. Baka cleaning lang at check mga sensors. Bale overhauling gasket,pang change oil lang siguro bibilhin nyo at yun labor nang mechanic. Since nababa nyo na rin baka yun timing belt or water pump pa check nyo na din. After that you're good to go na po.

If you have called our mechanic Domeng then you will know the full report kung may dapat palitan after mabuksan yun makina nyo. Yun 10k i presume pambili nang gaskets. Yun mold na sinasabi nya baka na misunderstood nyo sya. Ask him in detail po kung paano gagawin. But i think walang sira sa loob nyan sir

[innova2013]

nagpa general overhaul ako dati, hindi nga lang sa ZZ engine, almost 30K. OEM toyota overhauling gasket tapos replacement brand na lang sa ibang parts (piston set, piston ring set, bearings, etc...)

balik brand new feel ng engine at fuel consumption. kaso ang sira naman niya ay worn out piston rings at lumuwag na din yung bearing sa connecting rod. para sakin, sulit na sulit sakin yung general overhaul na yun.

yung sainyo kasi sir, sludge, kapag may namuo na nang burnt oil (mala aspalto ito), kahit anong chemical clean o scrape, hindi na itong kayang tanggalin.

kaya sundin mo sir yung advise ng karamihan dito, ipa open mo muna yung makina mo para makita yung extent ng sludge build up sa engine mo, tapos tska ka mag decide after (change engine o general overhaul)

yung change engine at general overhaul hit or miss, kumbaga swertihan.

sa change engine, kapag fresh, swerte, kapag hindi, swerte ng tumagal ng 1 year.

sa overhaul naman, hit or miss din kasi depende sa engine builder mo. pero kung sa reputable builder naman, sure namang ok ang gawa.

yung cleaning, parang sayang kasi, more than 10years old na din yung makina, tutal, nabuksan na, palitan na yung mga dapat palitan.

[konichiwa888]

Sir yun sludge po depende kung gaano kadami sa loob nang engine pero kumakapit ito on all parts inside nang engine. Sinasakal nito ang makina nyo until kumatok na lang makina nyo dahil not sufficient lubrication inside. Paunti unti yan tapos bigla na lang kakatok na makina nyo. Usual po yan pag masyadong matagal change oil intervals at long oil use. D po yan natutunaw basta sa flushing except siguro kung diesel yun ilalagay nyo na pang flush. Which will eat away all sludges pero i wouldn't recommend this as it will shorten the life of your engine

Hi sir, napa cleaning ko na po yun engine ko. Dissamble yun engine tapos super dami oil sludge sa loob, binaba din yun oil pan, pero hindi na binaba yun makina, dukot na lang yun ginawa. The whole process takes almost half day to finish. Pinalitan din yun gasket rubber sa side kasi sira na. Pati yun gasket cover pinalitan na din kasi malutong na. After that they perform flushing and change oil. Luckily walang sira yun mga important parts sa loob. Medyo malaki din po ginastos ko lahat lahat pero sulit naman kasi tahimik na yun engine now compare sa dati. Sabi ng mekaniko, sakit daw talaga ng altis yun oil sludge kaya kailangan better if change oil regularly.

[konichiwa888]

Mga Sir, sabi ng mechanic better if change oil every at 3500-4000 km para sigurado kasi nga prone to oil sludge itong altis engine. Kahit daw na ordinary oil lang ang gamitin pwede na basta regular ang pagpalit. Ordinary oil cost mga 200 isang bottle, tapos 4 bottles so mga 800 lang. Ano po massuggest nyong oil for my car? Mas okay ba kung fully synthetic pa din gamitin ko or semi synthetic given my car's condition? Medyo mahal din po kasi yun fully synthetic. Or pwede nang ordinary oil basta change oil ako every 4km. Thanks sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng opinion at suggestions.

[LN106G]

you can actually use multigrade diesel engine oil that can also be used on gas engines. Check the back side of the eng oil container if the API rating has "SM" or "SN" label, then only then that you can use it on your car. Diesel engine oils contain more detergents than a regular gas engine oil. It is also wise to look at your owner's manual what type of oil your car needs... I also have an 04' 1.6E Altis and I use Mobil 1 0W40 FS oil with baldwin filter but still change my oil every 5K km. No problems so far that Ive seen when I changed the valve cover gasket....

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Sa youtube dami vids baka makakuha ka ng idea. Bubuksan, disassemble tapos manual linisan like dudukutin, sungkit ng matigas na oil tapos palit ng ibang parts kung na damage. Handa ka din ng regular oil baka kelangan i flush once or twice before ilabas.

Sa altisclubzz may naka experience na nyan mas matindi kasi itinirik talaga sya. Baka mas malala yun pero try searching for ideas and ballpark figure how much money and time.

[zoomzoom]

Mga Sir, sabi ng mechanic better if change oil every at 3500-4000 km para sigurado kasi nga prone to oil sludge itong altis engine. Kahit daw na ordinary oil lang ang gamitin pwede na basta regular ang pagpalit. Ordinary oil cost mga 200 isang bottle, tapos 4 bottles so mga 800 lang. Ano po massuggest nyong oil for my car? Mas okay ba kung fully synthetic pa din gamitin ko or semi synthetic given my car's condition? Medyo mahal din po kasi yun fully synthetic. Or pwede nang ordinary oil basta change oil ako every 4km. Thanks sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng opinion at suggestions.

Kung ako mag cha-change oil every 4k km, di na ko mag fully synthetic. Sayang pera. Stick to the cheaper mineral oil na lang kung ganun ka short na interval lang rin ang change oil ko.

[SkyFlakes88]

Hi sir, napa cleaning ko na po yun engine ko. Dissamble yun engine tapos super dami oil sludge sa loob, binaba din yun oil pan, pero hindi na binaba yun makina, dukot na lang yun ginawa. The whole process takes almost half day to finish. Pinalitan din yun gasket rubber sa side kasi sira na. Pati yun gasket cover pinalitan na din kasi malutong na. After that they perform flushing and change oil. Luckily walang sira yun mga important parts sa loob. Medyo malaki din po ginastos ko lahat lahat pero sulit naman kasi tahimik na yun engine now compare sa dati. Sabi ng mekaniko, sakit daw talaga ng altis yun oil sludge kaya kailangan better if change oil regularly.

Glad you opened you engine sir. Enjoy your clean engine. Try to use your car more often like 5k in 3 to 4 months you can use semi synthetic 10w/30 [emoji106]

Sludge build up only if your car is garage queen. Best to use the car as often as you can. I think a 5k km per 3months to max 4 months won't give you sludge problems.