oil sludge in toyota altis 2003 engine

[konichiwa888]

masyado pala mahal inabot mo. harang ang labo.mas mahal pa than having a decent overhaul.

valve cover? yung buong valve cover pinalitan or gasket lang? kung gasket lang, loko nga yung shop. dami VC gaskets sa banawe. less than 500 lang replacements and gaskets should never be surplus.

Medyo mahal nga po eh. Buong valve cover po yata kung hindi ako nagkakamali. Gasket is yun takip lang po tama po ba? Pasensya na hindi kasi ako sobrang marunong sa mga parts at mga tawag.

[crazy_boy]

4 na mechanic gumalaw nung makina mo? nako. sana naman naibalik mga bolts sa original nuts niya.

proper engine tear down dapat naka ayos lahat ng part sa table and properly marked, then return all bolts kung saan siya tinagal.

[crazy_boy]

double post again

[ClaNker]

medyo madugo ang nagastos ko sir, pero ayos magtrabaho yun shop na napuntahan ko. And half day lang natapos nila. 4 mechanics nagtulong tulong sabi kasi nila kung walang tama sa loob ng engine cleaning nila at palitan ibang parts kaya matapos ng half day.

Labor = 18,000 (medyo mahal ito tingin ko, unang una 20k dapat, tinawaran ko kasi sabi ko half day lang naman and walang tama yun makina)
valve cover surplus = 2000 (wala daw mabiling original or new replacement nito kaya surplus ang kinuha ko)
4 listers of flushing oil = 500
4 bottles of motor oil ordinary = 800 (for change oil)
1 oil filter = 180
10 cleaner (200 each bottle) = 2000 (ito yun ginamit na panglinis sa loob ng makina, parang spray sya)
valve gasket rubber (yun rubber na black dunno if tama yun name) replacement = 650 (malutong na daw kasi kaya nagleleak yun oil dati)
kerosene = 200 (pang linis ng makina)

Inabot ako kulang kulang na 25000, medyo mahal sya pero maayos at mabilis yun trabaho and surplus shop din kasi sya kaya kung may mga parts na walang mabili, sa surplus na kumukuha.

Right now, mas maganda na yun tunog ng makina.

18K ang labor!!! Nissan casa price na yan para sa bukas makina for complete engine overhaul.

[elei]

UP ko lang yung thread na to...

Been reading about oil sludge and based sa mga nabasa ko..if ever may oil sludge na visible when you remove the oil cap, kelangan na i top overhaul and remove the oil pan para linisan.

question ko lang hindi ba kaya iflush muna or treat it with hi detergent oil such as delo gold?

The reason is we have a toyota echo car (2nzfe) na nagkakastart na magka oil sludge but quietly and running smoothly, just curious kase it might cause a bigger problems soon.

Thanks.

[kimbon]

me too, the distance travel from home to office is 7 kms . I understand low engine operating temp is prone to oil sludge. Given the above situation how often do I REALLY need to change the oil using FC oil ? BTW my total distance traveled in 6 months is only 6k to 8k. (kulang ata sa lakwatsa).

[StockEngine]

Newer oils(sn) even conventional oils are less prone to sludge.

[vinj]

UP ko lang yung thread na to...

Been reading about oil sludge and based sa mga nabasa ko..if ever may oil sludge na visible when you remove the oil cap, kelangan na i top overhaul and remove the oil pan para linisan.

question ko lang hindi ba kaya iflush muna or treat it with hi detergent oil such as delo gold?

The reason is we have a toyota echo car (2nzfe) na nagkakastart na magka oil sludge but quietly and running smoothly, just curious kase it might cause a bigger problems soon.

Thanks.

You can doing a full flush first; high detergent oil + Baldwin filter with a close change oil interval. (1,500 kms then 5,000kms). You can also try using an engine flush oil when you do the change oil inbetween.

You can also opt to open up the valve cover and have it cleaned physically then install a new gasket, then use a high detergency oil and good filter. That's what i would do.

me too, the distance travel from home to office is 7 kms . I understand low engine operating temp is prone to oil sludge. Given the above situation how often do I REALLY need to change the oil using FC oil ? BTW my total distance traveled in 6 months is only 6k to 8k. (kulang ata sa lakwatsa).

You change oil every 5K naman? That should be okay of so. Just don't use full synth and extend to 10k as that's where most of the sludge issues i heard about came from.

[kimbon]

You change oil every 5K naman? That should be okay of so. Just don't use full synth and extend to 10k as that's where most of the sludge issues i heard about came from.

nope I don't still change oil every 5k instead of every 10K or every 6th of the month whichever comes first. You were saying use semi-synth instead of FC so I can change oil every 5K or every 3rd of the months whichever comes first? TIA

[elei]

[QUOTE=vinj;2701136]You can doing a full flush first; high detergent oil + Baldwin filter with a close change oil interval. (1,500 kms then 5,000kms). You can also try using an engine flush oil when you do the change oil inbetween.

You can also opt to open up the valve cover and have it cleaned physically then install a new gasket, then use a high detergency oil and good filter. That's what i would do.


Sir Vinj any recommended na high detergent oil? if i have the valve cover remove, kelangan din ba ibaba pa yung oil pan? thanks sa reply sir really appreciate it.

[1D4LV]

me too, the distance travel from home to office is 7 kms . I understand low engine operating temp is prone to oil sludge. Given the above situation how often do I REALLY need to change the oil using FC oil ? BTW my total distance traveled in 6 months is only 6k to 8k. (kulang ata sa lakwatsa).

i would still do an oil change every 5k, but will downgrade to a semi synth oil, para di naman ganung kamahal.
sa akin, di bale ng gumastos sa change oil intervals kesa sa mamroblema sa makina.

[XTO]

me too, the distance travel from home to office is 7 kms . I understand low engine operating temp is prone to oil sludge. Given the above situation how often do I REALLY need to change the oil using FC oil ? BTW my total distance traveled in 6 months is only 6k to 8k. (kulang ata sa lakwatsa).

Teka, what do you mean FC oil? Fully conventional? Less than 5K din ako in 6 mos on my 2002 1.8G altis and anually ako mag oil change using FS (Fully Synthetic).

[rommelm]

50K for an Altis overhaul is pricey unless you overheated the engine and warped the cylinder heads. Do a compression test first to see if you have any busted seals, piston rings causing loose compression. Have the timing chain and tensioners checked too. If need be, you can buy an original overhaul kit (gaskets and the like) from shops like Toyorama, Celica, Aerodymanic, Gant, etc. (Banawe, Aranata Ave, Masangkay or Pasay areas) and these should be reasonable.Have a mechanic first open the engine and drop the oil pan to clean it.

Even if the car is not used often, make it a practice to change the oil once or twice a year. It would save you in the long run and will only cost you 1K+ at your gas station.

sir may i ask how much to undergo compression test?mine kasi is nagbabawas ng langis..

[rommelm]

imo mahal ang labor na 18k sir...parang taga sa presyo yan. Nagpa TOH ako dati and if I remember it right wala pa sa 6k labor na binayaran ko. Yung friend ko na naputulan ng timing belt, 15k lang nagastos nya all in...palit valve pa yun.
With regards sa valve cover, yung buong cover pinalitan? if gasket lang kase like sir sirkosero said...impossible walang oem or replacement nyan...and dapat bnew gamitin kung papalitan.

sir pwede malaman kung saan shop ka nagpa TOH or repair? yung altis ko kasi grabe magbawas ng oil e.

[jick.cejoco]

sir may i ask how much to undergo compression test?mine kasi is nagbabawas ng langis..

when you are losing lube oil that fast, the first thing you will have to check is the PCV system. these are routine maintenance procedures that are often missed and people tend to prescribe overhaul even if it was neglect or derelict maintenance. do the routine procedures first. most shops are hungry for cash even how minor the symptom is, they prescribe the most revenue producing jobs taking advantage of people's ignorance

[jick.cejoco]

sir pwede malaman kung saan shop ka nagpa TOH or repair? yung altis ko kasi grabe magbawas ng oil e.

so you are willing to submit to place your head into an alligator's wide open jaw without proper diagnosis?

[batosai]

Hi sir,

Any recommended mechanic or shop na expert sa pag dismantle ng ZZ engine? I'm planning to have my altis 1.8G, na pa overhaul due to oil sludge:

[sirkosero]

Hi sir,

Any recommended mechanic or shop na expert sa pag dismantle ng ZZ engine? I'm planning to have my altis 1.8G, na pa overhaul due to oil sludge:

If you are near fairview, look for Ryan Marcelo's dadudz autofix. He is the moderator of toyota vios maintenance in FB

Lots of vios owners have their cars serviced and overhauled there and seems he knows his stuff in toyota engines.

Granted yours is an altis, i doubt there are glaring differences in how it is overhauled.

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[shelu]

krudo lang gina gamit kong flushing oil. twice a year ko ginagawa. wala talagang sludge ang sasakyan. di ako naniwala na lulutong ang seals dahil lang sa krudo. halos lahat ng trucking at taxi companies, yan ang ginagawa.

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[batosai]

Hi Sirkosero,

Thanks for your input, I will look for it on FB.. I'm trying to post the picture of my engine so that you can see how bad it looks like, but I cannot post the picture..

Thanks