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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing
    yup, I had tried that.....
    kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

    to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing
    yup, I had tried that.....
    kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

    to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    yup, I had tried that.....
    kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

    to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

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    yup, I had tried that.....
    kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

    to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

    sa Manila area po ako. And I usually done my change oil sa shell station na malapit sa amin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing
    Sir yun sludge po depende kung gaano kadami sa loob nang engine pero kumakapit ito on all parts inside nang engine. Sinasakal nito ang makina nyo until kumatok na lang makina nyo dahil not sufficient lubrication inside. Paunti unti yan tapos bigla na lang kakatok na makina nyo. Usual po yan pag masyadong matagal change oil intervals at long oil use. D po yan natutunaw basta sa flushing except siguro kung diesel yun ilalagay nyo na pang flush. Which will eat away all sludges pero i wouldn't recommend this as it will shorten the life of your engine

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    [QUOTE=SkyFlakes88;2607926]Sir yun sludge po depende kung gaano kadami sa loob nang engine pero kumakapit ito on all parts inside nang engine. Sinasakal nito ang makina nyo until kumatok na lang makina nyo dahil not sufficient lubrication inside. Paunti unti yan tapos bigla na lang kakatok na makina nyo. Usual po yan pag masyadong matagal change oil intervals at long oil use. D po yan natutunaw basta sa flushing except siguro kung diesel yun ilalagay nyo na pang flush. Which will eat away all sludges pero i wouldn't recommend this as it will shorten the life of your engine also. Yun mga rubber parts titigas with diesel flushing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyFlakes88 View Post
    Sir yun sludge po depende kung gaano kadami sa loob nang engine pero kumakapit ito on all parts inside nang engine. Sinasakal nito ang makina nyo until kumatok na lang makina nyo dahil not sufficient lubrication inside. Paunti unti yan tapos bigla na lang kakatok na makina nyo. Usual po yan pag masyadong matagal change oil intervals at long oil use. D po yan natutunaw basta sa flushing except siguro kung diesel yun ilalagay nyo na pang flush. Which will eat away all sludges pero i wouldn't recommend this as it will shorten the life of your engine
    Hi sir, napa cleaning ko na po yun engine ko. Dissamble yun engine tapos super dami oil sludge sa loob, binaba din yun oil pan, pero hindi na binaba yun makina, dukot na lang yun ginawa. The whole process takes almost half day to finish. Pinalitan din yun gasket rubber sa side kasi sira na. Pati yun gasket cover pinalitan na din kasi malutong na. After that they perform flushing and change oil. Luckily walang sira yun mga important parts sa loob. Medyo malaki din po ginastos ko lahat lahat pero sulit naman kasi tahimik na yun engine now compare sa dati. Sabi ng mekaniko, sakit daw talaga ng altis yun oil sludge kaya kailangan better if change oil regularly.

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    Mga Sir, sabi ng mechanic better if change oil every at 3500-4000 km para sigurado kasi nga prone to oil sludge itong altis engine. Kahit daw na ordinary oil lang ang gamitin pwede na basta regular ang pagpalit. Ordinary oil cost mga 200 isang bottle, tapos 4 bottles so mga 800 lang. Ano po massuggest nyong oil for my car? Mas okay ba kung fully synthetic pa din gamitin ko or semi synthetic given my car's condition? Medyo mahal din po kasi yun fully synthetic. Or pwede nang ordinary oil basta change oil ako every 4km. Thanks sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng opinion at suggestions.

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    you can actually use multigrade diesel engine oil that can also be used on gas engines. Check the back side of the eng oil container if the API rating has "SM" or "SN" label, then only then that you can use it on your car. Diesel engine oils contain more detergents than a regular gas engine oil. It is also wise to look at your owner's manual what type of oil your car needs... I also have an 04' 1.6E Altis and I use Mobil 1 0W40 FS oil with baldwin filter but still change my oil every 5K km. No problems so far that Ive seen when I changed the valve cover gasket....

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    Quote Originally Posted by konichiwa888 View Post
    Mga Sir, sabi ng mechanic better if change oil every at 3500-4000 km para sigurado kasi nga prone to oil sludge itong altis engine. Kahit daw na ordinary oil lang ang gamitin pwede na basta regular ang pagpalit. Ordinary oil cost mga 200 isang bottle, tapos 4 bottles so mga 800 lang. Ano po massuggest nyong oil for my car? Mas okay ba kung fully synthetic pa din gamitin ko or semi synthetic given my car's condition? Medyo mahal din po kasi yun fully synthetic. Or pwede nang ordinary oil basta change oil ako every 4km. Thanks sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng opinion at suggestions.
    Kung ako mag cha-change oil every 4k km, di na ko mag fully synthetic. Sayang pera. Stick to the cheaper mineral oil na lang kung ganun ka short na interval lang rin ang change oil ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konichiwa888 View Post
    Mga Sir, sabi ng mechanic better if change oil every at 3500-4000 km para sigurado kasi nga prone to oil sludge itong altis engine. Kahit daw na ordinary oil lang ang gamitin pwede na basta regular ang pagpalit. Ordinary oil cost mga 200 isang bottle, tapos 4 bottles so mga 800 lang. Ano po massuggest nyong oil for my car? Mas okay ba kung fully synthetic pa din gamitin ko or semi synthetic given my car's condition? Medyo mahal din po kasi yun fully synthetic. Or pwede nang ordinary oil basta change oil ako every 4km. Thanks sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng opinion at suggestions.
    If all models of Altis develops an oil sludge like you were saying. The design in its oil distribution and recirculation inside the engine might be poor or not properly designed.

    An ordinary/special mineral engine oil, 10w-40, always works best to all types of passenger cars/vehicles. Definitely with following the regular interval of changing engine oil.

    And synthetic engine oils is only used and designed to work for high speed turbine engine, which have extreme heat during operations that no ordinary/special engine oil can dissipate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konichiwa888 View Post
    Hi sir, napa cleaning ko na po yun engine ko. Dissamble yun engine tapos super dami oil sludge sa loob, binaba din yun oil pan, pero hindi na binaba yun makina, dukot na lang yun ginawa. The whole process takes almost half day to finish. Pinalitan din yun gasket rubber sa side kasi sira na. Pati yun gasket cover pinalitan na din kasi malutong na. After that they perform flushing and change oil. Luckily walang sira yun mga important parts sa loob. Medyo malaki din po ginastos ko lahat lahat pero sulit naman kasi tahimik na yun engine now compare sa dati. Sabi ng mekaniko, sakit daw talaga ng altis yun oil sludge kaya kailangan better if change oil regularly.
    Glad you opened you engine sir. Enjoy your clean engine. Try to use your car more often like 5k in 3 to 4 months you can use semi synthetic 10w/30 [emoji106]

    Sludge build up only if your car is garage queen. Best to use the car as often as you can. I think a 5k km per 3months to max 4 months won't give you sludge problems.

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    Sir all you need is to clean your whole engine to get rid of all the sludge inside and you can only do that if you will open it up to know what needs to be done. Compression test will not solve your problem. If the mechanic can carefully remove the gasket maybe you will just buy what gasket is needed not all of it. Unless you know what is inside your engine and the extent of any damage if there are. Hindi po kayo makaka decide kung ano gagawin.

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    Sa youtube dami vids baka makakuha ka ng idea. Bubuksan, disassemble tapos manual linisan like dudukutin, sungkit ng matigas na oil tapos palit ng ibang parts kung na damage. Handa ka din ng regular oil baka kelangan i flush once or twice before ilabas.

    Sa altisclubzz may naka experience na nyan mas matindi kasi itinirik talaga sya. Baka mas malala yun pero try searching for ideas and ballpark figure how much money and time.

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    magkano inabot TS? can u share yung itemized list ng ginawa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    magkano inabot TS? can u share yung itemized list ng ginawa?
    medyo madugo ang nagastos ko sir, pero ayos magtrabaho yun shop na napuntahan ko. And half day lang natapos nila. 4 mechanics nagtulong tulong sabi kasi nila kung walang tama sa loob ng engine cleaning nila at palitan ibang parts kaya matapos ng half day.

    Labor = 18,000 (medyo mahal ito tingin ko, unang una 20k dapat, tinawaran ko kasi sabi ko half day lang naman and walang tama yun makina)
    valve cover surplus = 2000 (wala daw mabiling original or new replacement nito kaya surplus ang kinuha ko)
    4 listers of flushing oil = 500
    4 bottles of motor oil ordinary = 800 (for change oil)
    1 oil filter = 180
    10 cleaner (200 each bottle) = 2000 (ito yun ginamit na panglinis sa loob ng makina, parang spray sya)
    valve gasket rubber (yun rubber na black dunno if tama yun name) replacement = 650 (malutong na daw kasi kaya nagleleak yun oil dati)
    kerosene = 200 (pang linis ng makina)

    Inabot ako kulang kulang na 25000, medyo mahal sya pero maayos at mabilis yun trabaho and surplus shop din kasi sya kaya kung may mga parts na walang mabili, sa surplus na kumukuha.

    Right now, mas maganda na yun tunog ng makina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konichiwa888 View Post
    medyo madugo ang nagastos ko sir, pero ayos magtrabaho yun shop na napuntahan ko. And half day lang natapos nila. 4 mechanics nagtulong tulong sabi kasi nila kung walang tama sa loob ng engine cleaning nila at palitan ibang parts kaya matapos ng half day.

    Labor = 18,000 (medyo mahal ito tingin ko, unang una 20k dapat, tinawaran ko kasi sabi ko half day lang naman and walang tama yun makina)
    valve cover surplus = 2000 (wala daw mabiling original or new replacement nito kaya surplus ang kinuha ko)
    4 listers of flushing oil = 500
    4 bottles of motor oil ordinary = 800 (for change oil)
    1 oil filter = 180
    10 cleaner (200 each bottle) = 2000 (ito yun ginamit na panglinis sa loob ng makina, parang spray sya)
    valve gasket rubber (yun rubber na black dunno if tama yun name) replacement = 650 (malutong na daw kasi kaya nagleleak yun oil dati)
    kerosene = 200 (pang linis ng makina)

    Inabot ako kulang kulang na 25000, medyo mahal sya pero maayos at mabilis yun trabaho and surplus shop din kasi sya kaya kung may mga parts na walang mabili, sa surplus na kumukuha.

    Right now, mas maganda na yun tunog ng makina.
    18K ang labor!!! Nissan casa price na yan para sa bukas makina for complete engine overhaul.

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    UP ko lang yung thread na to...

    Been reading about oil sludge and based sa mga nabasa ko..if ever may oil sludge na visible when you remove the oil cap, kelangan na i top overhaul and remove the oil pan para linisan.

    question ko lang hindi ba kaya iflush muna or treat it with hi detergent oil such as delo gold?

    The reason is we have a toyota echo car (2nzfe) na nagkakastart na magka oil sludge but quietly and running smoothly, just curious kase it might cause a bigger problems soon.

    Thanks.

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    me too, the distance travel from home to office is 7 kms . I understand low engine operating temp is prone to oil sludge. Given the above situation how often do I REALLY need to change the oil using FC oil ? BTW my total distance traveled in 6 months is only 6k to 8k. (kulang ata sa lakwatsa).

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    How many months before you hit 4000km?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    How many months before you hit 4000km?
    Mga 600 km lang ako per month. So 6-7 months bago ako mag 4000 km. So more or less half year change oil isang beses. Gagamitin ko na lang yun ordinary oil kung ganon kadalas magchange oil kasi sayang lang kung synthetic gamitin ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    How many months before you hit 4000km?
    Mga 600 km lang ako per month. So 6-7 months bago ako mag 4000 km. So more or less half year change oil isang beses. Gagamitin ko na lang yun ordinary oil kung ganon kadalas magchange oil kasi sayang lang kung synthetic gamitin ko.

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