oil sludge in toyota altis 2003 engine

[konichiwa888]

Pag Ganyan ang ginagawa namin sa Mga gensets namin... Pinapa de rusting na namin yan... Ask Ko Lang gumagamit ka Po ba Ng Oil Additive? And what brand gamit mo?

sa shell po ako nagpapachange oil. Fully synthetic ang oil na gamit ko at hindi po ako gumagamit ng oil additives. May isang beses kasi matagal ako bago nagpachange oil, dun na nagsimula yun oil sludge.

[konichiwa888]

50K for an Altis overhaul is pricey unless you overheated the engine and warped the cylinder heads. Do a compression test first to see if you have any busted seals, piston rings causing loose compression. Have the timing chain and tensioners checked too. If need be, you can buy an original overhaul kit (gaskets and the like) from shops like Toyorama, Celica, Aerodymanic, Gant, etc. (Banawe, Aranata Ave, Masangkay or Pasay areas) and these should be reasonable.Have a mechanic first open the engine and drop the oil pan to clean it.

Even if the car is not used often, make it a practice to change the oil once or twice a year. It would save you in the long run and will only cost you 1K+ at your gas station.

Hi sir, ask ko lang saan pwede magpacompression test at mga how much po magagastos kapag compression test? Sa mga shell station kaya na nagchachange oil meron kaya silang compression test?

[konichiwa888]

No need to overhaul.Baklasin lng ang cylinder head chka oil pan.Remove the strainer ng oil pump.Tapos linisin din ang vvti oil filter sa may ilalim ng vvti oil control valve(may 17mm bolt,nandun ung maliit na filter).Karamihan ng oil sludge,naipon lng sa ibabaw ng cylinder head.Bago magpa overhaul.magpa compression test ka muna kung out of specs or malayo na diprensya ng 4 na cylinders.Tapos,kabitan muna ng mechanical oil pressure gauge ang oil sending unit para makita kung nasa specs pa ang oil pressure.Pag nasa specs pa,bakit ka magpa overhaul?Aabutin ka ng 20k+ sa pyesa pa lng (1zzfe/3zzfe).

Cge po ipapacompression test ko po. Kapag ibaba ang oil pan lang and linis sa oil pickup tube, ok lang po ba hindi malinis ang loob ng engine kasi sa cover pa lang po madami nang oil sludge, hindi kaya madami din oil sludge sa loob ng engine? Sabi kasi ng isang mekaniko, if hindi daw ipalinis ang loob ng engine baka susunod mas madami pa daw masira sa loob ng engine.

[konichiwa888]

Malamang barado na nang sludge yan buong engine. There are small holes sa loob that oil should pass through. It's best to completely disassemble the engine and assess what needs to be done and replace if any. That's the only way you could really know what kind of work should be done and the cost that goes with it so that you can decide what to do. A surplus engine is already used. It's better to repair your original engine unless you plan to go 1.8 or 2.0 and spend a bit more as there are parts that are also needed to recondition a surplus engine. Will cost more but the upgrade is worth it. Kung same 1.6 lang din i'd rather use my old engine unless yun bore na nya ang may tama and needs to put in liners.

Sir, when you say disassemble the engine para makita kung may oil sludge sa loob. You mean top overhaul only or general overhaul? Thanks.

[bloowolf]

Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing

[1D4LV]

Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing

yup, I had tried that.....
kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

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Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing

yup, I had tried that.....
kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

[SkyFlakes88]

Sir, when you say disassemble the engine para makita kung may oil sludge sa loob. You mean top overhaul only or general overhaul? Thanks.

D po general or top overhauling yan sir. Parang cleaning lang po. Pero depende po kasi sa laman kung may tama yun moving parts lalo na yun bore and pistons/rings e parang general overhauling na po.I suggest these work should be done kasi po i don't believe in short cuts as they may give more headache in the long run. Baka in a few months lang or even less kumatok na nang diretso yan engine mo sir. Paano kung gamit nyo sa malayong lugar at dun kayo masiraan.

Let your engine be dissasembled para malinis lahat and then you can assess the damage if meron. Kung wala reassembly lang and may peace of mind na kayo. I think d naman nasira yan kasi d nyo naman natakbo nang malayo at d naman huminto pr tumirik e. Baka cleaning lang at check mga sensors. Bale overhauling gasket,pang change oil lang siguro bibilhin nyo at yun labor nang mechanic. Since nababa nyo na rin baka yun timing belt or water pump pa check nyo na din. After that you're good to go na po.

[konichiwa888]

yup, I had tried that.....
kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

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yup, I had tried that.....
kaya tingin ko premature pa din to conclude na kailangan ng overhaul.

to the TS, on the compression test, saan location mo?

sa Manila area po ako. And I usually done my change oil sa shell station na malapit sa amin.

[konichiwa888]

D po general or top overhauling yan sir. Parang cleaning lang po. Pero depende po kasi sa laman kung may tama yun moving parts lalo na yun bore and pistons/rings e parang general overhauling na po.I suggest these work should be done kasi po i don't believe in short cuts as they may give more headache in the long run. Baka in a few months lang or even less kumatok na nang diretso yan engine mo sir. Paano kung gamit nyo sa malayong lugar at dun kayo masiraan.

I see. yun didisassemble ang engine at cleaning nagpaquote/estimate ako sa speedyfix, ang binigay na estimate is 20k. dunno if ito yun tukoy nilang process na gagawin. Basta hindi pa daw general overhaul, bubuksan at lininisin pa lang daw sa loob. At kung may mga parts na sira, pwede pa daw tumaas yun price. May natanong naman ako na isa pang shop, they will disassemble the engine and clean it and do general overhaul, estimate is from 25k-50k (50k being the worst case) if madaming kailangan palitan sa loob. Tinawagan ko naman yun isang recommend ng isang member dito na mechanic, he is offering 8k for his labor and handa daw ako 10k for the parts na papalitan. Pero yun mga metal na sira, sarili daw nya imomold, hindi nya idadaan sa machine shop which i think parang medyo feel ko baka magkaproblema. And sabi ng isang friend ko na medyo marunong sa car, kulang daw yun 10k for materials if madaming nasira sa loob ng engine. And hindi daw necessarily na ibababa nya yun engine pwede daw yun dukot lang, dunno what does he mean by that.
Let your engine be dissasembled para malinis lahat and then you can assess the damage if meron. Kung wala reassembly lang and may peace of mind na kayo. I think d naman nasira yan kasi d nyo naman natakbo nang malayo at d naman huminto pr tumirik e. Baka cleaning lang at check mga sensors. Bale overhauling gasket,pang change oil lang siguro bibilhin nyo at yun labor nang mechanic. Since nababa nyo na rin baka yun timing belt or water pump pa check nyo na din. After that you're good to go na po.

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D po general or top overhauling yan sir. Parang cleaning lang po. Pero depende po kasi sa laman kung may tama yun moving parts lalo na yun bore and pistons/rings e parang general overhauling na po.I suggest these work should be done kasi po i don't believe in short cuts as they may give more headache in the long run. Baka in a few months lang or even less kumatok na nang diretso yan engine mo sir. Paano kung gamit nyo sa malayong lugar at dun kayo masiraan.

I see. yun didisassemble ang engine at cleaning nagpaquote/estimate ako sa speedyfix, ang binigay na estimate is 20k. dunno if ito yun tukoy nilang process na gagawin. Basta hindi pa daw general overhaul, bubuksan at lininisin pa lang daw sa loob. At kung may mga parts na sira, pwede pa daw tumaas yun price. May natanong naman ako na isa pang shop, they will disassemble the engine and clean it and do general overhaul, estimate is from 25k-50k (50k being the worst case) if madaming kailangan palitan sa loob. Tinawagan ko naman yun isang recommend ng isang member dito na mechanic, he is offering 8k for his labor and handa daw ako 10k for the parts na papalitan. Pero yun mga metal na sira, sarili daw nya imomold, hindi nya idadaan sa machine shop which i think parang medyo feel ko baka magkaproblema. And sabi ng isang friend ko na medyo marunong sa car, kulang daw yun 10k for materials if madaming nasira sa loob ng engine. And hindi daw necessarily na ibababa nya yun engine pwede daw yun dukot lang, dunno what does he mean by that.
Let your engine be dissasembled para malinis lahat and then you can assess the damage if meron. Kung wala reassembly lang and may peace of mind na kayo. I think d naman nasira yan kasi d nyo naman natakbo nang malayo at d naman huminto pr tumirik e. Baka cleaning lang at check mga sensors. Bale overhauling gasket,pang change oil lang siguro bibilhin nyo at yun labor nang mechanic. Since nababa nyo na rin baka yun timing belt or water pump pa check nyo na din. After that you're good to go na po.

[SkyFlakes88]

Diba matutunaw yung oil sludge sa engine flushing? I had a car before that had oil sludge, natunaw after 3 o/c at flushing

Sir yun sludge po depende kung gaano kadami sa loob nang engine pero kumakapit ito on all parts inside nang engine. Sinasakal nito ang makina nyo until kumatok na lang makina nyo dahil not sufficient lubrication inside. Paunti unti yan tapos bigla na lang kakatok na makina nyo. Usual po yan pag masyadong matagal change oil intervals at long oil use. D po yan natutunaw basta sa flushing except siguro kung diesel yun ilalagay nyo na pang flush. Which will eat away all sludges pero i wouldn't recommend this as it will shorten the life of your engine