Need na ma overhaul yung engine?

[dr. d]

i have been filling oil to the mark for decades now.. no issues, either.

now, why don't the car manufacturers recommend this "slight underfilling" if it is as beneficial as some entities say?
devil's advocate here..

[SkyFlakes88]

Kaya nga po nagkakaroon nang sludge yun engines natin. Sobrang tagal na nun oil inside with so much pollutants nagiging putik na. D na kayang linisin nang filter saka yun viscosity nang oil nag degrade na din.

Basta malinis yun langis kahit i redline nyo yun rpm nyo walang sisirain yan sa loob. Dahil walang mag cause nang friction dahil malinis yun langis.

Sa punong paglalagay nang langis or sobrang langis. Try nyo po kumain na busog na busog at tumakbo kayo after. Ano pakiramdam? Same principle sa engine. Ask the mechanics of a race car. They do not fill the engine in full capacity and they always change oil frequently kahit fully snythetic pa yan na 0w pa ang grade nang oil na ginagamit nila.

[SkyFlakes88]

i have been filling oil to the mark for decades now.. no issues, either.

now, why don't the car manufacturers recommend this "slight underfilling" if it is as beneficial as some entities say?
devil's advocate here..

Kasi po yun ang full capacity nang engine nila. Kung 4liters e d ilalagay nila 4 liters syempre sir. Whether your oil level is at just above minimum up to full. Your engine can run without any problems. But kung just above the min.level sa dipstick you can use the cars just don't rev it to it's limits until you are at least 3/4 from full.

[dr. d]

Kasi po yun ang full capacity nang engine nila. Kung 4liters e d ilalagay nila 4 liters syempre sir. Whether your oil level is at just above minimum up to full. Your engine can run without any problems. But kung just above the min.level sa dipstick you can use the cars just don't rev it to it's limits until you are at least 3/4 from full.

if you put in just 3/4 of the volume, that oil will have a higher concentration of "impurities" than if you put in the full 4 liters.
that might translate to more abrasives running inside that engine...

but yes, the recommendation is between min and max..

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Kasi po yun ang full capacity nang engine nila. Kung 4liters e d ilalagay nila 4 liters syempre sir. Whether your oil level is at just above minimum up to full. Your engine can run without any problems. But kung just above the min.level sa dipstick you can use the cars just don't rev it to it's limits until you are at least 3/4 from full.

if you put in just 3/4 of the volume, that oil will have a higher concentration of "impurities" than if you put in the full 4 liters.
that might translate to more abrasives running inside that engine...

but yes, the recommendation is between min and max..

[SkyFlakes88]

I would choose a clean mineral oil than a dirty fully synthetic oil. Kung walang budget i'd change my oil still even with just mineral oil. Saka na mag snythetic pag next time may pambili na. Important thing is the oil in your engine is clean.

[SkyFlakes88]

if you put in just 3/4 of the volume, that oil will have a higher concentration of "impurities" than if you put in the full 4 liters.
that might translate to more abrasives running inside that engine...

but yes, the recommendation is between min and max..

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if you put in just 3/4 of the volume, that oil will have a higher concentration of "impurities" than if you put in the full 4 liters.
that might translate to more abrasives running inside that engine...

but yes, the recommendation is between min and max..

For me atleast at 3/4 level is good enough to rev your engine to it's redline. This is what i am saying. But who does maintain 3/4 oil level in their engines?

[dr. d]

For me atleast at 3/4 level is good enough to rev your engine to it's redline. This is what i am saying. But who does maintain 3/4 oil level in their engines?

maintaining it at 3/4 entails the same effort as maintaining it at max (full).

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For me atleast at 3/4 level is good enough to rev your engine to it's redline. This is what i am saying. But who does maintain 3/4 oil level in their engines?

maintaining it at 3/4 entails the same effort as maintaining it at max (full).

[SkyFlakes88]

maintaining it at 3/4 entails the same effort as maintaining it at max (full).

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maintaining it at 3/4 entails the same effort as maintaining it at max (full).

All i'm saying sir is that for you to rev your engine to it's limits at the minimum you have to have 3/4 capacity of oil in your engine or your engine will be deprived of oil and may be damaged when revving it to it's limits.

[SkyFlakes88]

Just so happens my engine requires 3.2 liters of oil. If my engine requires 4liters then i would top it off with just 3.8liters.

[dr. d]

All i'm saying sir is that for you to rev your engine to it's limits at the minimum you have to have 3/4 capacity of oil in your engine or your engine will be deprived of oil and may be damaged when revving it to it's limits.

maybe this is the reason why manufacturers recommend filling the oil to max. para may kaunting patawad, just in case nalimutan ninyong dagdagan ng langis nang matagal na at nag-redline kayo one day..

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All i'm saying sir is that for you to rev your engine to it's limits at the minimum you have to have 3/4 capacity of oil in your engine or your engine will be deprived of oil and may be damaged when revving it to it's limits.

maybe this is the reason why manufacturers recommend filling the oil to max. para may kaunting patawad, just in case nalimutan ninyong dagdagan ng langis nang matagal na at nag-redline kayo one day..

[dr. d]

Just so happens my engine requires 3.2 liters of oil. If my engine requires 4liters then i would top it off with just 3.8liters.

and we should never forget that the new oil filter just installed is still dry and needs a small volume of oil separate from the oil sump volume..

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Just so happens my engine requires 3.2 liters of oil. If my engine requires 4liters then i would top it off with just 3.8liters.

and we should never forget that the new oil filter just installed is still dry and needs a small volume of oil separate from the oil sump volume..

[SkyFlakes88]

maybe this is the reason why manufacturers recommend filling the oil to max. para may kaunting patawad, just in case nalimutan ninyong dagdagan ng langis nang matagal na at nag-redline kayo one day..

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maybe this is the reason why manufacturers recommend filling the oil to max. para may kaunting patawad, just in case nalimutan ninyong dagdagan ng langis nang matagal na at nag-redline kayo one day..

They just recommend the full capacity syempre sir para walang problema. Also para magastusan pa tayo. Hehehe like for my engine 3.2 bale bibili ka pa nang 1liter pero 200ml lang gagamitin. My other car requires 3liters and i just put 2.9liters of oil in it.

[SkyFlakes88]

and we should never forget that the new oil filter just installed is still dry and needs a small volume of oil separate from the oil sump volume..

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and we should never forget that the new oil filter just installed is still dry and needs a small volume of oil separate from the oil sump volume..

Oil filter oil capacity is also noted sir on my manual. 3.2 with oil filter and 3.0liters also with filter na sir.

[keto]

Basta malinis yun langis kahit i redline nyo yun rpm nyo walang sisirain yan sa loob. Dahil walang mag cause nang friction dahil malinis yun langis.

Sa punong paglalagay nang langis or sobrang langis. Try nyo po kumain na busog na busog at tumakbo kayo after. Ano pakiramdam? Same principle sa engine. Ask the mechanics of a race car. They do not fill the engine in full capacity and they always change oil frequently kahit fully snythetic pa yan na 0w pa ang grade nang oil na ginagamit nila.

IMO clean oil or not, redlining your engine increases the chance of damage. Oil only reduces friction inside the engine and does not totally eliminate it.

Also, I believe engine manufacturers already made the necessary calculations to give engines "breathing room" when filling up oil to the recommended full levels.

[kimot]

Redline refers to the maximum engine speed at which an internal combustion engine or traction motor and its components are designed to operate without causing damage to the components themselves or other parts of the engine

pulot lang sa wiki

iwas iwasan ang redlining

gaya ng sabi ni sir keto, oil only reduces the friction, may dahilan kung baket nilagyan ng mga engineers ang redline

[jick.cejoco]

I-redline mo ng I-redline para ma-need ma overwhole

[SkyFlakes88]

pulot lang sa wiki

iwas iwasan ang redlining

gaya ng sabi ni sir keto, oil only reduces the friction, may dahilan kung baket nilagyan ng mga engineers ang redline

That's why the engineers put a redline on every engine that they make. You can run your engine up to it without damaging your engine. Been redlining my old car since i can remember i run my car about 4k to 5k kms monthly. Change oil religiously at 5k kms. because of my work as a sales rep.covering the area from isabela down to bicol for 9yrs straight. never had any problems with the engine. Not once did it conked out on me.

[rcdgreat]

Mga sir gandang hapon po! Sorry po newbie lng po pagdating sa sasakyan. I am driving a mazda 3 2004 model. Tanong lang po if may idea po kayo kung mgkano po mgpa top overhaul and san po kya may maaus na talyer at idea po kung magkano abutin? Recently po kasi nag overheat ung sasakyan ko and kala ko po dala lang ng leak sa water overflow reservoir which napalitan ko na po ngaun ng bago but still unti unti pa rin po nauubos ung tubig sa reservoir. Tapos po knina pag check ko po sa oil dipstick at engine oil cap may sludge po na prang kulay gatas po. Sabi po ng friend ko bka may tama na daw head gasket ko. Sana po matulungan nyo ko. Mejo tight din na po kasi budget ko.

Ask na rin po sana ako if safe pa po ba idrive ito? Right now po ngsstart na po ako mgipon ng pera dahil ang sabi po sa akin maghanda na daw ako ng budget at mahal daw po mgpa top overhaul... please po tulungan nyo po ako.... salamat po

[sphinxz]

similar case happened to my friend. IIRC, civic 2010. naghalo ang tubig sa langis to the point naging gatas na. natunaw ang plastic dipstick. baklas lahat, radiator at engine. May parts din na pinalitan. didn't know what the actual price was but minimum amount might be 30k. home service. nakailang palit din ng oil para siguradong malinis Bago gumamit ng orig Honda oil.

[jodski]

Mga sir gandang hapon po! Sorry po newbie lng po pagdating sa sasakyan. I am driving a mazda 3 2004 model. Tanong lang po if may idea po kayo kung mgkano po mgpa top overhaul and san po kya may maaus na talyer at idea po kung magkano abutin? Recently po kasi nag overheat ung sasakyan ko and kala ko po dala lang ng leak sa water overflow reservoir which napalitan ko na po ngaun ng bago but still unti unti pa rin po nauubos ung tubig sa reservoir. Tapos po knina pag check ko po sa oil dipstick at engine oil cap may sludge po na prang kulay gatas po. Sabi po ng friend ko bka may tama na daw head gasket ko. Sana po matulungan nyo ko. Mejo tight din na po kasi budget ko.

Ask na rin po sana ako if safe pa po ba idrive ito? Right now po ngsstart na po ako mgipon ng pera dahil ang sabi po sa akin maghanda na daw ako ng budget at mahal daw po mgpa top overhaul... please po tulungan nyo po ako.... salamat po

Kung palit head gasket yan it will go around 7 to 15 k depende kung saan ka magpapagawa kasama na parts.

Mag canvass ka muna kung magkano head gasket mo and as much as possible yung original.

Sa shop naman na hahanapin mo. Go ask them if they have a torque wrench. I research mo na rin kung ilang torque ang kailangan para sa unit mo... hindi kasi pwede yan sobrang higpit at lalo na hindi pwede na maluwag

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