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  1. Join Date
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    mga sir,

    just need your advice po,yesterday po kasi i made a quick stop near to pump some air to my ride(galant 7G) i left it idling then when i got on the wheel,the engine suddenly died down , i tried to restart but the engine starter just cranks or "redondo" lang po , it can not start.parang ayaw tumuloy prang kapos sya sa juice ng battery.

    i tried po several things since di naman ko ganun kalalim know how sa makina.
    1.tried to swap with battery from a jeep (2 batteries from the jeep) = ayaw same cond
    2. tried to tulak start ,tried several times = aya ,same cond

    in the end po ,pinahatak na lang namin sa jeep na hinraman namin ng batt

    yun fuel filter po kasi napalitan na dati 6 mos. ago, spark plug ganun din 6 mos. ago(before stock plugs sya pinalitan ko ng platinum tip) gasoline is nasa 1/4 pa ng gauge, before po pala nun me narinig ako na whirring sound na sumasabay sa idle ng makina pero before wala yun e.

    medyo di kasi masyado nagagamit tong ride namin minsan 2 months nakagarahe lng sya!tpos gamit sya ng 1 week tpos garahe uli.

    any inputs po sir kung anu prob ng ride namin?

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    Carburated or EFI?

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    before po pala nun me narinig ako na whirring sound na sumasabay sa idle ng makina pero before wala yun e.
    this might be the power steering pump but i think not connected sa hindi pag-start.

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    Automatic or Manual?

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    kung EFI yan, pag niligay mo ba sa ignition ang susi nadidinig mo na gumagana ang fuel pump?

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    i think it has something to do with your fuel pump. since it can die down on you suddenly.

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    engine po is 4G63 EFI po sya.Manual Trans po sir

    paano po ba matsek if fuel pump sya?saan po ba located yung fuel pump ng galant?if naka ON po b yung susi then maririnig mo yung whine not during start position ng susi?

    how to check po if fuel pump is defective?using a VOM/multimeter?any procedure?

    any idea po magkano to ?recommended po ba surplus dito ?or me replacement din ba to?any good brand na maganda?


    salamat po sa mga info sir ,sakit na ulo ko kaiisip hehehe gastos na naman to .

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    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    engine po is 4G63 EFI po sya.Manual Trans po sir

    paano po ba matsek if fuel pump sya?saan po ba located yung fuel pump ng galant?if naka ON po b yung susi then maririnig mo yung whine not during start position ng susi?

    how to check po if fuel pump is defective?using a VOM/multimeter?any procedure?

    any idea po magkano to ?recommended po ba surplus dito ?or me replacement din ba to?any good brand na maganda?


    salamat po sa mga info sir ,sakit na ulo ko kaiisip hehehe gastos na naman to .
    i dont know with the galant, but normally, fuel pumps are located at the back of the car. usually, if it is working, you will hear it move if the car switch is at on, because it pumps fuel na from the tank to the fuel system which you need during car starts.

    i do not recommend surplus. it may conk out too prematurely. mapapagastos ka pa ng doble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    engine po is 4G63 EFI po sya.Manual Trans po sir

    paano po ba matsek if fuel pump sya?saan po ba located yung fuel pump ng galant?if naka ON po b yung susi then maririnig mo yung whine not during start position ng susi?

    how to check po if fuel pump is defective?using a VOM/multimeter?any procedure?

    any idea po magkano to ?recommended po ba surplus dito ?or me replacement din ba to?any good brand na maganda?


    salamat po sa mga info sir ,sakit na ulo ko kaiisip hehehe gastos na naman to .
    it's probably a fuel pump problem, I also own a 7G galant at nangyari na din sa akin yan...I had it check with a mechanic, he checked muna kung may kuryente pumapasok sa makina then chineck nya yung fuel line and found out na di na umaakyat yung gas papuntang makina.

    yung fuel pump ng galant is located underneath the backseat... hindi ko maalala kung magkano na yun.... more or less nasa 2K, replacement pa ata nakuha ko nun.

    best way is have it check with a trusted mechanic bago baklasin yung pump, medyo mahirap din kasi baklasin yung part na yan.

    HTH

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    pwede po ba na tsek ko yung supply line ng gas dun line going into the fuel filter para malaman kung nagsusupply pa ng gas yung pump.?

    bale po pag on ko ng susi dapat di ba lalabas yun gas dun sa line papunta sa filter kung ok pa yung pump.?

    more or less pump siguro sira ng ride ko kasi ok naman takbo nya before e

    kaso baka next month pa matsetsek yun hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    pwede po ba na tsek ko yung supply line ng gas dun line going into the fuel filter para malaman kung nagsusupply pa ng gas yung pump.?

    bale po pag on ko ng susi dapat di ba lalabas yun gas dun sa line papunta sa filter kung ok pa yung pump.?

    more or less pump siguro sira ng ride ko kasi ok naman takbo nya before e

    kaso baka next month pa matsetsek yun hehehe
    actually, ma che check mo yan eh. while the ignition is set to on (acc), press mo yung parang injector valve. pag may lumabas na fuel, it means gumagana yung pump. may pumapasok na fuel. pag walang lumabas, walang umaakyat na fuel, which means the fuel pump is busted.

    tama yung previous poster, get a replacement brand new pump. its better than using a surplus unit.

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    IMO maybe not a failed fuel pump, dapat sana pupugakpugak muna bago mamatay ang engine. may probability din na timing belt ang problem.

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    sir ,

    medyo duda po ko na timing belt kasi kapapalit lang ng timing belt nito , and used an original mitsubishi timing belt and bearings.,was replaced in mitsuprime cavite.

    will try to check when i get back .

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    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    sir ,

    medyo duda po ko na timing belt kasi kapapalit lang ng timing belt nito , and used an original mitsubishi timing belt and bearings.,was replaced in mitsuprime cavite.

    will try to check when i get back .
    pa check mo din kuryente from distributor and igniter. You might have a busted distributor or leaking dist cap or busted igniter or coil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    sir ,

    medyo duda po ko na timing belt kasi kapapalit lang ng timing belt nito , and used an original mitsubishi timing belt and bearings.,was replaced in mitsuprime cavite.

    will try to check when i get back .
    You might call this an stupid answer but, check your alternator Im pretyy sure its a done deal.

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    sir v6dreamer ,salamat po sa input but it can not be a stupid answer sir hehehe your inputs po kasi dito sa forum e ,helped me alot since i learn how to kalikot pakonti konti hehehe

    sa ngayon po alternator is medyo last ng list ko kasi kapapalit na nito last march lng yata ,surplus nga lang sir.and intindi ko po kasi dati kahit sira alternator ko nastart and napatakbo ng half km tpos batt died down on me.

    salamat po sa inputs

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    check your fuel filter, fuel lines, baka barado na. Usually pag matagal na di nagagamit ang tsikot, at madumi yung gas na nagamit, mag settle yung sediments, tapos titigas. Baka yun ang may sala. check if fuel is still flowing by unplugging the fuel line hose going to the engine, pag ni redondo mo yun, pupusit ang gas kung ok pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by threx666 View Post
    mga sir,

    just need your advice po,yesterday po kasi i made a quick stop near to pump some air to my ride(galant 7G) i left it idling then when i got on the wheel,the engine suddenly died down , i tried to restart but the engine starter just cranks or "redondo" lang po , it can not start.parang ayaw tumuloy prang kapos sya sa juice ng battery.

    i tried po several things since di naman ko ganun kalalim know how sa makina.
    1.tried to swap with battery from a jeep (2 batteries from the jeep) = ayaw same cond
    2. tried to tulak start ,tried several times = aya ,same cond

    in the end po ,pinahatak na lang namin sa jeep na hinraman namin ng batt

    yun fuel filter po kasi napalitan na dati 6 mos. ago, spark plug ganun din 6 mos. ago(before stock plugs sya pinalitan ko ng platinum tip) gasoline is nasa 1/4 pa ng gauge, before po pala nun me narinig ako na whirring sound na sumasabay sa idle ng makina pero before wala yun e.

    medyo di kasi masyado nagagamit tong ride namin minsan 2 months nakagarahe lng sya!tpos gamit sya ng 1 week tpos garahe uli.

    any inputs po sir kung anu prob ng ride namin?


    666,
    before any fossil burning engine can run, combustion must occur; i.e., the three elements of a fire triangle must be present: heat, air, fuel. heat- spark, heat-compressed air in the combustion chambers, fuel of course, do you need me to spell that? do not rely on the fuel gauge specially you mentioned that the car is always dormant. the gauge might have been stuck but in reality the tank might be empty. as for air, check your air induction starting from the air filter horn all the way to the intake valves. not in the air induction system, check the exhaust system. a sooty tailpipe is a telltale sign that the exhaust might be plugged (just like your exhaust filled with bananas). check for a hot bluish white spark from the hi tension wires. if you could, check your engine compression both wet and dry readings and record findings. this might reveal an out of synch valve camshaft. if your ignition is distributor type, check if it turns while cranking and the distributor rotor points to cylinder 1 (or 4 for 4 cylinder engine, sorry, i am not familiar with the engine family you have) while the crankshaft pulley is at top dead center. all these are elementary my dear watson if you give the full description of the symptoms
    jick

nakaidle then engine died down and won start anymore