Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[Marielen]

sa label ng oil---just wanna clarify:

"synthetic" is it different from "fully synthetic"

etong ginamit ko is zic - "synthetic" while ung ginamit ko before na motul h100 "fully synthetic"

Fully synthetic is better

[jaypee10]

sa akin kasi diesel 4d56 kaka change oil ko lang kaninang umaga.bale pumapatak ng 8000 klm bago ako nagkapag change oil ok lang ba un?gamit kong oil is ung TOP1 diesel synthetic ung kulay red na lata, kulay berde ung langis saka sa filter ko is ung VIC.madalas lang dito sa manila paikot ikot at minsan lang sa isang buwan umuuwi sa nueva ecija..

[bboyukoy]

Mukhang ayos tong thread na to.
May tanong din ako.

Sino naka try nang Repsol na brand, ok ba?
Ok ba ang 5W-50 (fully synthetic) sa kotse na gamit sa city? It's Mazda 3, 2010 2.0.
Will there be issues if I use API SN tapos ang sa manual is API SM?
Thank you.

[StockEngine]

api sn is backwarsd compatible. that ford engine is fine with api sn. also 5w50 is too thick. go for 5w40 or 5w30..

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[bboyukoy]

Will there be problems if I use 5W50 (full synthetic) for around 6 months?
Ang route ko is traffic sa umaga around 40 minutes. May areas naman na I run 4th gear for around a minute tapos the rest ay slow na.
Going home late in the evening, it's just around 10 minutes.

Thank you.

api sn is backwarsd compatible. that ford engine is fine with api sn. also 5w50 is too thick. go for 5w40 or 5w30..

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[StockEngine]

heres a really good article...5w50 and 10w60

10w-60 Grade Car Engine Oil Explained

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[Alpha Cube]

Some Reference material for this thread.

Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil
Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil | Team-BHP.

Synthetic or Mineral Oil?
Synthetic Oil vs. Mineral Engine Oil - Changing from Mineral to Synthetic Oil






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[ninjababez]

Thanks bro cb [emoji106][emoji106]

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[jodski]

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Parang dinuguan lang ano?

This is what it looks like for a fully synthetic oil ng Montero na nagpapa change oil lang every 20,000 km oci



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[falken]

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Parang dinuguan lang ano?

This is what it looks like for a fully synthetic oil ng Montero na nagpapa change oil lang every 20,000 km oci



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Ang dumi na, kawawa ang makina.

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[K.I.L.L.]

Shared album - Jorge .L - Google Photos

Parang dinuguan lang ano?

This is what it looks like for a fully synthetic oil ng Montero na nagpapa change oil lang every 20,000 km oci



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That is sludge. Was he experimenting? He'd need to flush all the sludge out.

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[StockEngine]

following manufacturer intervals will have avoided this...

she must have followed the oil manufacturers claim of "up to 20,000" but disregarded oil manufacturer's recommendation of "follow your vehicle's recommended oil change interval"

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[oj88]

Doing a 20,000 km OCI will probably work if your driving conditions are almost exclusively interstate-like. But her in MM, people should adhere to 3, 4 or 6 months OCI, whichever is prescribed. KM value will not matter if the vehicle spends three-quarters of its life idling in traffic.

[StockEngine]

http://zicph.com/product/2

zic ph finally released the pds and msds..

the 10w40's hths is super thick.. almost like 50weight.. hence some say their engines are quieter...

even their 5w30 is like 40weight


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[jodski]

That is sludge. Was he experimenting? He'd need to flush all the sludge out.

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Sad to say pero the owner of the unit is not experimenting.

Kahit pinagsasabihan, ang isasagot sa iyo "okay lang yan kasi fully synthetic naman" [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]



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[ninjababez]

Sad to say pero the owner of the unit is not experimenting.

Kahit pinagsasabihan, ang isasagot sa iyo "okay lang yan kasi fully synthetic naman" [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]



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parang bayaw ko na hilaw, bought a 2nd hand crosswind.
ok lang he bought a new set of tires, safety eh; after nun accessories na, sabi ko napalitan mo na ba fluids? sabi nya aabot pa yan ng 5k km O_o

[oj88]

Group III vs Group IV (PAO). Does it still matter?

Talking only about fully-synthetic oil, there was probably a point in time when PAO base oils were considered the holy grail of lubricants and were actually superior, in a very big way, to Group III and lower base stocks. But is this still the case today? It appears now that the performance gap between Group III and IV base stocks have become so close that the jump in cost choosing PAO appears to be no longer practical.

As cost is a major concern for most people, are the seemingly marginal benefits of PAO enough justification to throw money at it?

Below is an article I read challenging this conventional thinking. Excerpts has been provided if you do not wish to read the whole article.

A similar trend is emerging with Group III base oils, especially those made using modern hydroisomerization. These oils provide equivalent performance to traditional PAO-based synthetic oils for most products and can be manufactured in volumes and at price points unachievable by PAO.

A modern Group III oil can actually outperform a PAO in several areas important to lubricants, such as additive solubility, lubricity and antiwear performance. Group III base oils can now rival PAO stocks in pour point, viscosity index and oxidation stability performance.

This equivalent performance was validated by the 1999 ruling of the National Advertising Division of the Better Business Bureau which allowed lubricants made with Group III oils to be labeled “synthetic.”

Unfortunately for PAO producers, their feedstock prices will continue to be relatively high, and the authors believe that this will relegate PAO-based lubricants to smaller, specialized markets in the future. Driven by the substantially lower price of Group III oils, the synthetic automotive lubricant market in North America is rapidly converting most of its volumes to Group III base stocks.

Source: Performance of Base Oils and Future Trends - The Evolution of Base Oil Technology - Part 3

Comments?

[Ry_Tower]

Group III vs Group IV (PAO). Does it still matter?

Talking only about fully-synthetic oil, there was probably a point in time when PAO base oils were considered the holy grail of lubricants and were actually superior, in a very big way, to Group III and lower base stocks. But is this still the case today? It appears now that the performance gap between Group III and IV base stocks have become so close that the jump in cost choosing PAO appears to be no longer practical.

As cost is a major concern for most people, are the seemingly marginal benefits of PAO enough justification to throw money at it?

Below is an article I read challenging this conventional thinking. Excerpts has been provided if you do not wish to read the whole article.









Source: Performance of Base Oils and Future Trends - The Evolution of Base Oil Technology - Part 3

Comments?

That is true. Grouo III base oils are just cheaper and it makes sense to just develop and improve them than to push people to switch to FULLY SYNTHETIC Oils.

Shell has a new oil that they highlight as purest due to gas to liquid process. It is base 3 as well iirc.

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[red_one]

Re: Shell Helix HX7. 5W-40. Is this Group III based?

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[StockEngine]

Re: Shell Helix HX7. 5W-40. Is this Group III based?

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grp3+

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