Mineral, Semi-Synth & Fully Synth (Low Mileage Drain Intervals) ...

[Dezaremos]

They say, Fully Synthetic is better at heat protection and Extended Drain Intervals ..

The Heat Protection can benefit any type of driving conditions.
Extended Drain Intervals can only benefit those who are frequently out of the City or Fleets because they easily achieve the 5000kms/3months interval which is a hassle for some so they chose Fully Synthetic to change it every 10,000kms ...

But what about the ordinary office guy who can't get 10,000 kms in a year but still wanted to use synthetic for the heat protection reason .. Ofcourse I don't wanna wait 2 years to achieve 10,000 kms before changing oil ...

So what's the proper drain interval for Semi-Synthetics & Fully-Synthetics using months instead of kilometers ??

If:

Mineral Oil = every 3months/5,000kms

What months should Semi & Fully be drain & change ???

Semi-Synthetic = ????/7,000kms

Fully-Synthetic = ????/10,000kms

[StockEngine]

what do you mean by high heat protection? if your car overheats... something is wrong with your cooling system.

don't worry about heat too much, I mean, do you drive like you're racing or you're just following slow cars in front of you? you're hardly pushing the engine which doesn't make much heat.

[Dezaremos]

what do you mean by high heat protection? if your car overheats... something is wrong with your cooling system.

don't worry about heat too much, I mean, do you drive like you're racing or you're just following slow cars in front of you? you're hardly pushing the engine which doesn't make much heat.

What I meant with heat protection is its better at lubricating engine parts compared to mineral oil ..

As far as I know, engine is cooled in 2 ways .. 1st is the engine oil absorbs the heat while lubricating the engine .. 2nd is the coolant absorbs the heat of the engine and the oil ..

That's why the engine will still overheat if the oil has not been change for a long time even if the coolant and cooling system of the car is in good condition ...

[StockEngine]

so you experienced this overheating because of bad engine oil?

got proof?

engine book reference?

[Dezaremos]

so you experienced this overheating because of bad engine oil?

got proof?

engine book reference?

Nope ..

But everytime I've read about Synthetic Oils in the internet, they're always associated with the term "better heat resistance" ..

I just use my common sense that better heat resistance leads to better engine protection .. (oil will not easily break down, no sludge formation, healthy engine, will not be prone to overheat) ..

[dr. d]

in my experience, a poorly lubricated engine does not necessarily overheat.
it may show flickering oil warning light, or it simply stops running. "frozen engine".

[almighty2018]

fully synthetic is the best. kahit anong brand basta tama yung viscosity para sa auto mo.

[Dezaremos]

fully synthetic is the best. kahit anong brand basta tama yung viscosity para sa auto mo.

So if fully synthetic, ilang months bago magpalit ??? Hindi ko kasi abot ang 10,000 kilometers in one year ... Ayaw ko naman maghintay ng 2 years para maabot ang 10,000kms ...

[StockEngine]

ano ba auto mo?

different cars different oci by manufacturers.

[Dezaremos]

ano ba auto mo?

different cars different oci by manufacturers.

Old but prestine condition Corolla GLi 1996 4afe ...

[StockEngine]

4AF engine? 5000km or 3 months whichever comes first..

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[Dezaremos]

4AF engine? 5000km or 3 months whichever comes first..

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4afe sir .. 4af is the carburetor version and 4afe is EFI ..

Kahit ba Fully Synthetic gamit na oil sir, 5000kms or 3 months pa rin ??

[StockEngine]

3L capacity? change oil every 6mo with semi synthetic...

[red_one]

So if fully synthetic, ilang months bago magpalit ??? Hindi ko kasi abot ang 10,000 kilometers in one year ... Ayaw ko naman maghintay ng 2 years para maabot ang 10,000kms ...

Fully synthetic is 12 months or 10,000 km.

I extended mine to 15 months. Less than 3,000 km travelled. Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40.

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[granro01]

I have a 2002 Honda city clocking 110K kilometers in the ODO. Regular office guy who only consume 3k a year of distance. I use semi-synthetic that is suppose to be regularly replace every 6 months or 5k kms. but I religiously did for the past years yearly replacement and seems the engine is not complaining and still performing better.

They say, Fully Synthetic is better at heat protection and Extended Drain Intervals ..

The Heat Protection can benefit any type of driving conditions.
Extended Drain Intervals can only benefit those who are frequently out of the City or Fleets because they easily achieve the 5000kms/3months interval which is a hassle for some so they chose Fully Synthetic to change it every 10,000kms ...

But what about the ordinary office guy who can't get 10,000 kms in a year but still wanted to use synthetic for the heat protection reason .. Ofcourse I don't wanna wait 2 years to achieve 10,000 kms before changing oil ...

So what's the proper drain interval for Semi-Synthetics & Fully-Synthetics using months instead of kilometers ??

If:

Mineral Oil = every 3months/5,000kms

What months should Semi & Fully be drain & change ???

Semi-Synthetic = ????/7,000kms

Fully-Synthetic = ????/10,000kms

[stayhungry]

Mineral, SS, FS. It's all so confusing.

Went and spoke with actual oil guys and they dropped some knowledge on me. Long story short story (kasi beer daw bayad ko para sa lessons) the term FS as we know if is basically just marketing. What counts as "synthetics" really? Different guys have differential opinions. Best gauge so far is base oil classification (group 1,2,3,4 or 5).

There's tons if info out there. There's even that case where Mobil sued Castrol because of all this - should crude oil, when processed enough, be counted as "synthetic oil"?

Gulo. So after multiple rounds of beer, my standard for me is that, for me to accept something as FS, it has to be a group 4 or 5 base (PAO, esters, etc). Please don't sell me something that's called FS that uses group 3.

The whole conversation about SS can be summed up in a statement that stuck with me - "cguro naman lahat nang pinoy may dugong kastila - e di lahat tayo pwede nang tawagin na "semi-spanish" 😂

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[StockEngine]

Mineral, SS, FS. It's all so confusing.

Went and spoke with actual oil guys and they dropped some knowledge on me. Long story short story (kasi beer daw bayad ko para sa lessons) the term FS as we know if is basically just marketing. What counts as "synthetics" really? Different guys have differential opinions. Best gauge so far is base oil classification (group 1,2,3,4 or 5).

There's tons if info out there. There's even that case where Mobil sued Castrol because of all this - should crude oil, when processed enough, be counted as "synthetic oil"?

Gulo. So after multiple rounds of beer, my standard for me is that, for me to accept something as FS, it has to be a group 4 or 5 base (PAO, esters, etc). Please don't sell me something that's called FS that uses group 3.

The whole conversation about SS can be summed up in a statement that stuck with me - "cguro naman lahat nang pinoy may dugong kastila - e di lahat tayo pwede nang tawagin na "semi-spanish" 😂

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guess which oils(and base oils) are approved by ferrari for their road cars (non track)

by the way its not about base oils. if you buy oil look at the labels and your owner manuals.

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[falken]

Mineral, SS, FS. It's all so confusing.

Went and spoke with actual oil guys and they dropped some knowledge on me. Long story short story (kasi beer daw bayad ko para sa lessons) the term FS as we know if is basically just marketing. What counts as "synthetics" really? Different guys have differential opinions. Best gauge so far is base oil classification (group 1,2,3,4 or 5).

There's tons if info out there. There's even that case where Mobil sued Castrol because of all this - should crude oil, when processed enough, be counted as "synthetic oil"?

Gulo. So after multiple rounds of beer, my standard for me is that, for me to accept something as FS, it has to be a group 4 or 5 base (PAO, esters, etc). Please don't sell me something that's called FS that uses group 3.

The whole conversation about SS can be summed up in a statement that stuck with me - "cguro naman lahat nang pinoy may dugong kastila - e di lahat tayo pwede nang tawagin na "semi-spanish" 😂

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Stay hungry. Stay humble.

Mobil 1 except for the extended performance belongs to Group 3. Afaik, Redline, Royal Purple and Motul 300v are group 4.

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[stayhungry]

guess which oils(and base oils) are approved by ferrari for their road cars (non track)

by the way its not about base oils. if you buy oil look at the labels and your owner manuals.

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Agreed. Check you manual then check the label on a reputable brand and you should be golden.

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[stayhungry]

Mobil 1 except for the extended performance belongs to Group 3. Afaik, Redline, Royal Purple and Motul 300v are group 4.

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Sounds about right. I think most of the stuff from Caltex and petron aren't group 4 not sure about shell.

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