Honda engine oil

**rap2_tan** · March 20th, 2012 09:22 PM

Good day! Is it ok to use a honda oil 10w 30 mineral oil for my toyota vios? I just cant find a 10w 30 mineral oil outside. I find it cheap for its viscosity at around 960 / gallon.
Pls refer to the pic the one on the right
Thanks!

**gearhead000** · March 20th, 2012 10:03 PM

At Php960/gal, baka mas okay pa na mag-Idemitsu fully synthetic ka na lang. Nababasa ko rito around P1,200 lang yata per gallon yun sa UniOil. They say yan din yung binibentang Honda FS VTEC-LEV oil sa mga casa.

Here's a link for reference: Idemitsu 5W30 for P1,200/4L.

**rap2_tan** · March 20th, 2012 10:12 PM

Sir im using fs oil now. since old na engine ko sabi ng mechanic ko better to use thicker oil. Medyo nagbabawas kasi ng oil eh. Masyado kasi manipis fs

**gearhead000** · March 20th, 2012 10:19 PM

Ah, sorry naman. Hehe. Pero kung sabi eh thicker oil, bakit 10W30 pa rin? Why not, say, 15W40 or kung nagbawas pa rin... 20W50?

**rap2_tan** · March 20th, 2012 10:30 PM

Gusto ko muna sana matry 10w baka d na magbawas.
Manipis pa rin ba 10w? 5w gamit ko ngayon na fs.
Do think ok lang gamitin itong galing honda? Manufactured by idemitsu sya eh

**kompressor** · March 22nd, 2012 02:48 PM

the 5w-10w rating will not matter because we live in a tropical climate. you should look at the other viscosity number which is the one during operating temps (the second number). kahit magpalit ka ng 5w-30 to 10w-30 eh manipis pa rin ang operating temp viscosity niyan kasi hindi naman nagbago yung "30".

kung sa tingin ng mechanic mo na mas malaki na ang oil journals in between the bearings coz of its age, then probably try a viscosity that is in the 50's range (heck, I've already seen a 10w-60 oil)

**Retz** · March 22nd, 2012 03:05 PM

What is the temperature range of 5W, 10W & 15W during cold starting? and is SAE 40 the best viscosity level suited for operating engine condition especially during heavy traffic?

**Bitulo** · March 22nd, 2012 06:51 PM

My humble suggestion, tignan ang vehicle manual kung ano ang recommended para sa car. Karaniwan sa Pilipinas ang recommended ay SAE 40 or SAE 50 dahil mainit ang climate. Yung mayron designation na 10W or 20W only indicates na sa cold temperatures, malabnaw pa rin siya. Kung sabi sa manual ay SAE 40 or SAE 50, risky gumamit ng SAE 30 or lower like SAE 20. Yung rekomendado kasi nasa design ng mga clearances sa makina. Kung malabnaw kay sa recommended sa manual ang gamitin, mabilis ang engine wear. Importante ito whether fully synthetic or mineral based ang engine oil.

Tignan din sa manual kung ano ang recommended na API grade. Kung halimbawa sabi sa manual API SF, pwede ka gumamit ng API SG pataas hanggang sa latest na API SM at API SN. Pero di ka dapat gumamit ng API lower than API SF.

I hope nakatulong ang aking suggestion.

Happy motoring mga KaTsikot.

**gearhead000** · March 22nd, 2012 08:12 PM

i think from his post that the recommended is 5W30, which he wants to change to 10W kasi nga nagbabawas daw ng langis. as kompressor said, that wouldn't change the situtation much dahil usually at or around the operating temps naman nagbabawas ng langis. yung 5W at 10W eh during starting lang naman or when the engine's still cold. so maybe it's better if you try muna kung me makita ka na 5W, 10W, or 15W40 kahit mineral lang or semi-synthetic. baka kasi masyadong malapot na yung 20W50 although eto ang pinakamadaling hanapin sa lahat.

**miko101130** · March 22nd, 2012 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by rap2_tan

Sir im using fs oil now. since old na engine ko sabi ng mechanic ko better to use thicker oil. Medyo nagbabawas kasi ng oil eh. Masyado kasi manipis fs

Bro, there is no such thing as manipis na fully synthetic oil.... fully synthetic oils will not cause any problems with any engines even old ones as long as the engine is well taken cared for, meaning no valve/cylinder/ crankcase/ gasket/ oil seal problems...

All synthetic oils beginning from 0W to 15W will be suited for any car, OIL will Retain its flow rate and viscosity at room temperature, that's around 27 degrees Celsius... If you're mechanic is saying that fully synthetic is "manipis" better find another mechanic... There will be no argument, Fully synthetic oils will provide Unparalleled protection and performance than semi synthetic and mineral oil... if you're engine is consuming oil, fix the problem inside the engine.

If you're seals are already worn and your engine is already having lower compression, its best to fix the root problem.

15w40 oils will not prevent smoking and the consumption of oils, the 15W at the beginning only indicates that the oil will flow at a slower rate than a 5W or a 10W oil at start-up... while the last number which is either 30 or 40 will indicate how the viscosity will end up at operating temperature...