EURO-4 compliance by 2014?

**badkuk** · May 19th, 2010 01:02 PM

Hi peeps,

Got wind of this from Inquirer's Motoring section today. Apparently there's a possibility that they might impose EURO-4 compliance on diesel vehicles.

For the sake of discussion...assuming that we are able to push EURO-4 diesel by then:

Isn't EURO-4 compliance more to do with the fuel, and not the engine? Following the line of though that dirty fuel causes dirty exhaust...wouldn't cleaner fuel mean less emissions, regardless of the engine?

Will existing non-EURO4 compliant vehicles be forcibly phased out? Or does it simply mean that sale on non-EURO-4 vehicles will be prohibited?

How on earth are they gonna get all the PUVs to replace their engines in 4 year's time?

As a follow up to the above, would it be best to "future-proof" your vehicle purchases now by buying EURO-4 compliant vehicles? Then again, even if your engine is EURO-4, chances are all that goes out the window if the diesel is dirty..may even mess up the engine....

Would it be possible to retrofit EURO-2/old school diesel engines with kits to make it EURO-4 compliant?

Where does biodiesel rank along the EURO-* levels? Would its use automatically make your car EURO-* compliant already?

**oj88** · May 19th, 2010 03:33 PM

It could just mean that only EURO-4 certified brand new diesel vehicles/engines can be imported, assembled and sold by 2014. Existing non-EURO-4 vehicles can remain operational indefinitely or maybe even announce a phase out plan at a later date.

**niky** · May 20th, 2010 03:34 PM

They can't force manufacturers to sell only EURO4 diesels unless they guarantee that our fuel supply is safe for these vehicles. In other words, they have to phase out the swampwater that we laughingly call diesel in favor of ultra-low sulfur diesel that meets EURO 4 standards.

Which will never happen. Public utility drivers won't be able to afford that kind of diesel while keeping prices low... otherwise the rest of us will be saddled with paying extra taxes to continue subsidizing public transport.

**badkuk** · May 20th, 2010 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by niky

They can't force manufacturers to sell only EURO4 diesels unless they guarantee that our fuel supply is safe for these vehicles. In other words, they have to phase out the swampwater that we laughingly call diesel in favor of ultra-low sulfur diesel that meets EURO 4 standards.

yah...even if you have a EURO infinity engine, garbage in, garbage out pa din.

Which will never happen. Public utility drivers won't be able to afford that kind of diesel while keeping prices low... otherwise the rest of us will be saddled with paying extra taxes to continue subsidizing public transport.

hmm...maybe they'll all switch to gas :D

**jmpet626** · May 20th, 2010 09:06 PM

If the added cost of ultra low sulfur diesel will be passed on to the consumer as fare increase papayag kaya sila na to pay Extra for cleaner air in the metro? How about sa Gas, malinis ba gas natin dito sa pinas compared to other countries?

**youngrider** · May 21st, 2010 09:20 AM

Do they mean that the emission test result of our diesel-run vehicles must comply with EURO IV. Ilan na lang kayang sasakyan ang matitira sa kalsada.

Yan na nga ang problema, kahit i-mandatory pa ng gobyerno ang paggamit ng ULSD ay wala ring epekto kung ang mga engines natin dito ay di compliant.

Well, if they will impose it, then dapat i-ban din nila ang sale and resale ng mga non-compliant engines and vehicles.

**14myXUV** · March 24th, 2014 11:46 AM

any updates on this topic?

specifically, if one is to buy a car now, how should his/her decision be influenced by the corresponding euro iv law that will be in force by 2016?

**JohnM** · March 24th, 2014 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by 14myXUV

any updates on this topic?

specifically, if one is to buy a car now, how should his/her decision be influenced by the corresponding euro iv law that will be in force by 2016?

Implementation date is Jan 1, 2016: Philippines Issues Euro 4 Vehicle Emission Standards | Clean Air Initiative

Seaoil, Unioil and Petron already have Euro IV products. Some brands like Mazda are waiting for full Euro IV implementation so they can bring their diesels in.

**innova2013** · March 24th, 2014 01:35 PM

gasoline engines emit more NOx than diesel that is very toxic to humans. approximately 100 parts for a well maintained gasoline engine and 10 parts for diesel.

old diesel engines can survive Euro 4 diesel as long as oil companies will be true to their word that they will put additives from the loss lubrication of sulfur to their diesel fuel or consumers will put the additives themselves (drivers/owners) eg: 2T, bio-diesel, or other diesel additives.

or public transportation will use LPG as an alternative fuel.

**14myXUV** · March 25th, 2014 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by JohnM

Implementation date is Jan 1, 2016: Philippines Issues Euro 4 Vehicle Emission Standards | Clean Air Initiative

Seaoil, Unioil and Petron already have Euro IV products. Some brands like Mazda are waiting for full Euro IV implementation so they can bring their diesels in.

THANKS A LOT. This clearly answers my question: "Starting January 01, 2016, all new passenger and light duty motor vehicle types to be introduced in the market shall comply with EURO 4 emission limits subject to EURO IV fuel availability."