engine overhauls

[t2erns]

hindi ba kayo nagtataka na maraming sasakyan today na kailangan pang tanggalin ang intake manifold just to replace the plugs? yun ang isang reason na iba na ang design ngayon hindi kagaya dati na panay ang service natin sa ignition system. the last time i changed the plugs of my 22-year old car ay nung muntik ng ma ondoy (if ain't broke don't fix it).

[Ry_Tower]

sir ry, actually, our family owns a number of old cars... lahat naman regular maintenance and periodic oil change lang. yung 21 yr old corolla na overhaul lang dahil napatid ang timing belt... tumalon kasi yung belt. ning binuksan, maganda pa loob at walang sludge. ang kayod lang eh dahil napatid ang valve. would you believe we also have a 14 year old "virgin" civic? Never even had a top overhaul. tappets lang ang inadjust that requires taking off the valve cover. syempre other wear and tear parts pinalitan including timing belt change and occasional tb cleaning. every 10k oil change interval and palit oil filter every 5k. 1st owner po kami. hehe

- kaya nga mao-overhaul pa rin yan kasi hindi lahat ng parts ay designed to last a lifetime. Matagal kung sa matagal but ilan ba mileage kasi?


Pero if you want to make your vehicle conform to its performance standard kasi, eventually nga kahit top overhaul, aabutin talaga. Yan yung siguro masasabi ko talagang magaling mag-alaga, top overhaul lang kelangan so hindi big dea na overhaul.

Hindi ko sinasabi na sirain engine ha kahit yung mga old ones. all I'm saying is eventually, kahit anong alaga, aabotan ka pa rin ng some form of overhaul. Wag umasa ng sobra.

[kutangbato]

mga bro,

a year and half ago pinaltan un timing belt and tinakbo palang since napaltan ay 33,000 kms. recently pinahigpitan ko un belt dahil may kakaibang ingay then after nahigpitan medyo ayos na BUT the service manager seems to hear a noise pa daw na coming from the timing gear, front ng makina, etc. na kailangan buksan and worse i-overhaul ung engine if ever hindi maayos un ingay na naririnig niya. Celica un shop along araneta ave kahilera ng araneta car accessories.

ride is prado 90 series old suv nato mga sir and diesel. alam ko maingay makina ng diesel engine pero nun maluwag un timing belt medyo malakas ang ingay but after that ok naman na un sound like an old diesel engine na.......But this service manager is keep on insisting na buksan un timing gear, baklasin un radiator, ibaba un makina, etc.

i tell him na ok na muna then mag 2nd opinion(sa loob-loob ko lang to sinabe) ako kaso ayaw ako paalisin sa shop baka daw maputol o mapatid (kung ano man tong sinasabe niya) at lalo masira ang engine.

But i still went on going home and drove a little bit slow. hehehe!

Just want to know your stand, advice and help guys.

Thanks in advance.

[kutangbato]

In addition.....the mileage is 77,000kms as of now, 2nd hand namin nabili and imported so my father and i agreed to change the timing belt as soon we got it.

[Ry_Tower]

In addition.....the mileage is 77,000kms as of now, 2nd hand namin nabili and imported so my father and i agreed to change the timing belt as soon we got it.

Pa-second opinion ka na lang sir IMO.

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Lulutong na kasi mga rubber seals niyan kaya palit ka din talaga. PMS nga eh, preventive lang. Pero siyempre at least mas matagal gamit mo vs standard if you are extra careful.

rubber seals and alike are easy to get to and do not need overhauls. pero sa katagalan kahit matino gamit, overhaul due to wear and tear. it does not mean kung parati ka change oil, yung internals ng engine would have no wear and tear.

[Ry_Tower]

rubber seals and alike are easy to get to and do not need overhauls. pero sa katagalan kahit matino gamit, overhaul due to wear and tear. it does not mean kung parati ka change oil, yung internals ng engine would have no wear and tear.

Just what I am telling the guys in general.

But that does not mean I don't want us to enjoy worry free drivign fr a long long time ha. Sino ba naman gusto ng OH.

[bambino]

marami rami na rin ako nagawang engine at karamihan sira lack of proper maintainance , kagaya ng natuyuan ng langis ,overheating at kung minsan dahil din sa engineering design.
meron engine na matibay talaga sometimes it goes over half a million km without overhaul . meron naman low mileage lang bigay na agad .

most engines sa proper maintainance lang ok na . malaking tulong sa pag extend ng life ng tsikots natin.

[kutangbato]

Pa-second opinion ka na lang sir IMO.

thanks sir ry! i will.

[yebo]

this is true only for gasoline engines that were labeled "extended maintenance interval", mostly after 1995 or so, could be earlier. these are the "100,000 miles first tune up" engines. for the lest fortunate of mortals (that means you and me) who do not happen to live in the US of A and the rest of the 1st world e sorry na lang tayo. even though the car manufacturers earn more from us (they mark up their vehicles much more in Asia while in the US they only earn $100 per vehicle on the average) they also give us the less reliable of their production, making us pay more 2 times since we end up fixing or replacing our cars faster.

[xxgrendel]

Sirs, in reading all the most probable issues affecting the engine life. How would i know if i need to overhaul my engine, i really want to take good care of my first car, though its only second hand a 93model lancer, im not feeling anything wrong yet but the oldness of the car makes me think otherwise. Would there be a disadvantage if i overhaul the engine without the need?

[Ry_Tower]

Sirs, in reading all the most probable issues affecting the engine life. How would i know if i need to overhaul my engine, i really want to take good care of my first car, though its only second hand a 93model lancer, im not feeling anything wrong yet but the oldness of the car makes me think otherwise. Would there be a disadvantage if i overhaul the engine without the need?

With that age of your car, IMO an overhaul is ok as long as you use OEM or quality materials and is done by a reputable shop. Meron na rin talaga yang performance difference from original specs eh. Tagal na kasi.

[eLai]

kung di naman sira why do overhaul? change oil and regular tune up will do. anyway, if you want to test your engine, have it's cylinder compression tested. that way you will know if there is compression leak. if there is, then overhaul is needed.

[neyzon]

san pu ba pede/recommended mg pa cylinder compression test? I'm also a newbie in cars & just got ny 1st car about a month ago a 2nd hand mitsu lancer model 1997 1.3 engine carburetor. Mileage is around 195K

[vinj]

san pu ba pede/recommended mg pa cylinder compression test? I'm also a newbie in cars & just got ny 1st car about a month ago a 2nd hand mitsu lancer model 1997 1.3 engine carburetor. Mileage is around 195K

What area are you located at? I had mine done at Speedyfix in San Juan a couple of months ago; a healthy 175psi across all 4 cylinders.

[mina_nuka]

Sirs, in reading all the most probable issues affecting the engine life. How would i know if i need to overhaul my engine, i really want to take good care of my first car, though its only second hand a 93model lancer, im not feeling anything wrong yet but the oldness of the car makes me think otherwise. Would there be a disadvantage if i overhaul the engine without the need?

before you decide in having an engine overhaul, have the following tests done:
1-dry compression test- first puff then four puffs of the compression
2-wet compression test- first puff then four puffs of the compression
3-engine idle vacuum test
4-cylinder leakage test.
if the above mentioned tests are satisfactory, you may only need resealing, i.e.; replace all the oil seals on the front of the engine, replace the rear main oil seal, replace the valve cover gasket, and in some cases, depending on the mileage, have the timing chain or belt checked or replaced if the mileage warrants replacements.

[neyzon]

What area are you located at? I had mine done at Speedyfix in San Juan a couple of months ago; a healthy 175psi across all 4 cylinders.

Located ako sa South Alabang / Las Piñas Area

[neyzon]

before you decide in having an engine overhaul, have the following tests done:
1-dry compression test- first puff then four puffs of the compression
2-wet compression test- first puff then four puffs of the compression
3-engine idle vacuum test
4-cylinder leakage test.
if the above mentioned tests are satisfactory, you may only need resealing, i.e.; replace all the oil seals on the front of the engine, replace the rear main oil seal, replace the valve cover gasket, and in some cases, depending on the mileage, have the timing chain or belt checked or replaced if the mileage warrants replacements.

San pu ba recommeded mg pa-test of the following as mentioned above? & of often do we need to replace those oil seals those it vary a lot from car to car or is it case to case basis? & magkanun rin un rough estminate ng cost ng mga test above.

[neyzon]

thank you . in which case, you do not need an overhaul, just resealing. i.e.: change the oil seals both from main and rear main, camshaft seal and oil pump seal, if applicable and valve cover gasket/s. sure they leak once the gaskets and the oils seals get brittle. that's just it. just reseal and desludge. no need to take your hypertension pills. hehehehehe

Got a followup question for that. I'm relatively new on cars just got my 1st car several months ago it's a Mitsubishi Lancer 1997 1.3 carb engine type. My questions are :

1. How would you know if your car needs to have oil seals changed?
A. Is there any type of test to determine that?
B. Can it be determined by listening or "feeling" the engine by an expert?
C. Does the total milleage tells you when to change the seals?
2. And what's the average cost for that?
A. Doest it varries a lot ( cost ) depending how big or what type of engine you have?
B. These oil seals are they generic or each car has it's own specific seals?
3. Is this something that can be done in a day or do you have to leave your car?

Sorry for a lot of questions I don't have any idea what it is or how it' s done.

[Chinoi]

Seals were made of rubber. Sa katagalan ng gamit at init ng engine ay tumitigas yun lip nito or lumulutong. Hindi na ma press ng spring ng lip ng seal kaya sumisingaw ang mga oil.

Pwede mo malaman kung sira na iyon valve seals mo. Mausok yun tambutso mo sa umaga at mababawasan usok pag mainit na makina. Then takbo mo kotse ng more than 80 kph. Pag lumakas ang usok sa tmabutso at may lumulusot na oil sa valve seals sa cylinder head. Pwede mo rin silipin yun spark plug mo kung basa ito ng oil. Sign din ito ng sirang valve seal. Mura lang valve seals around P35 per piece.