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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    pwede din pala sa gas engine? pwede kaya sa 2008 focus 1.8?
    I've been also using 2t in our 2004 civic for about three months now. The engine seems smoother but no noticeable change in power and acceleration. Same is true when it comes to fuel consumption.

    I've tried caltex 2t and the fc rated PTT brand. The latter seems better. My ratio is 1 ml per liter, using 97 octane fuel from seaoil or petron xcs.

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    #2
    anybody using 2T from Total? safe din ba sya? walang nakalagay na mga data eh.
    libre ko lang nakuha dahil palit ko sa .50cents off per liter.

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    #3
    Need more feedback from those with 4M41 engines using 2T. What ratio do you use? What type/brand of 2T do you use? What improvements have you noticed? Thank you.

    dvldoc:
    Installed a DTS Chip on 4M41 Strada. Will this affect how the 2T is burned? Is it still safe to use 200:1 ratio? Thank you.
    Last edited by Walter; July 11th, 2012 at 11:23 PM.

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    #4
    I think so, as long as it is not GDI but that's just my opinion. In any case, the ratio used is considerably smaller than diesel. I remember that the said ratio is merely used to counteract the drying effects of ethanol in the fuel system.

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    #5
    Its safe, the more diesel u burn the more power you will make. There is no point in unburnt. Fuel. Black smoke is money out of your pocket.

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    #6
    1. glennm- on and off for 6-7months -diesel
    2. yapoy86 - on and off for 3 months - 4D56, one time on gas engine K10A
    3. bertzus - 13 months and counting - 4D56T
    4. RT - 18 months - 4d56T, 4m40T
    5. valskie01 - 8 months - d4ea(2008 kia carens), 6 months - j3(2012 kia carnival)
    6. mac40-2 days 4d56 Advie
    7. dvldoc 2 years- QD32ETI (1999 Elgrand)
    8. 9701 - 2 months - 4M40T (2003 FM)
    9. coiter - more or less 1 year - TD27 (1998 terrano)
    10. G01 - 5 months - 4m41 (2008 Strada)
    11. regaia - 4 months - 4JJ-TC (2008 Alterra), 3 Months - 1NZ-FE (2004 Vios)
    12. babynos01 - 2 weeks - 2005 tucson crdi
    13. Zhandros - 6months - 4M41 (2009 Strada)
    14. butchyboy - 4-5 months - 4D56 VGT (MS GLSV)
    15. kihmari- 6months- 6he1(1991 isuzu forward), 4hg1(1996 isuzu elf), 4ja1(1998 1.4(2006 hyundai getz),(2009cbr150)
    16. Reepicheep - 2 full tanks (1999 Pajero Fieldmaster 4m40)
    17. kompressor - 9 months (19forgotten Nissan LD20II, 1995 4D56 L200)
    18. D_rock_777 - 6 months - QD32 (2001 Frontier)
    19. MrQ5 - 18 months - 2kd-ftv (2010 Innova G)
    20. Halimaw - 3+ months - 4M40 Pajero Fieldmaster 4x4 M/T
    21. dbok02 - currently on 2nd full tank (4d56 N/A Pajero Gen 1)
    22. otil_flores- 6 months isuzu crosswind 4ja1 matic.
    23. edtf - on & off for a year 4JG2, 4d56T, 2.9 CRDI kia engine (carnival)
    24. ramledi - 2 months 4ja1
    25. blue_gambit - 5 months 4ja1-N/A & 4m40-TDIC + 4d56 ng friend ko (1month)
    26. Arjayboy - 1 month 4ja1- N/A (Crosswind)
    27. louiek - on and off 7 months 4d56 2009 Mitsubishi Adventure.2011 Toyota Hi-Ace Grandia GL d4d 2 months

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    #7
    Hello, this is a bit of off topic.,

    Is there study on the impact of the burning 2T oil on Humans?
    If the tail pipes became sticky because of 2T.
    How about our Lungs.
    Baka mas masahol pa yan sa usok ng sigarilyo.

    If our lungs did got those sticky oil,
    I'm sure, those cough syrup companies will be VERY happy.

    I already heard some company try to sell 2T oil
    made from vegetable oil. Better siguro, if from olive oil or coconut oil.
    Why would they introduce that?

    I used to live in Quiapo and suffers a lot of lung related problem during the 70's~80's.
    The pollution index in Mercury Drug store in Quiapo church does not work.
    Because the air is filthy. It very seldom report a good index.

    Maybe once in a while ok yun 2T. But not to use it regularly.
    Same reason 2T tricycle engine is being phased out.
    The government could not regulated the quality and quantity.

    There were stories Jeepney drivers re-uses dirty engine oil.
    Just filtering out the dirty particles. If you happen to touched these
    dirty oil in your hands, you will notice that it's itchy.

    If the Jeepneys been doing these, some 2-stroke tricycle
    surely, might be using used car motor oil to replace fresh 2T oils.
    My daughter usually suffer from clogged nose
    when she passes from a tricycle infested area.

    Most of the old jeeps, have damaged piston rings,
    and these oils leak out, burn it with the diesel.
    these are pollutants are injested to the public.

    Just for though, LUNG related death is the highest killer in our country.


    Quote Originally Posted by louiek View Post
    1. glennm- on and off for 6-7months -diesel
    2. yapoy86 - on and off for 3 months - 4D56, one time on gas engine K10A
    3. bertzus - 13 months and counting - 4D56T
    4. RT - 18 months - 4d56T, 4m40T
    5. valskie01 - 8 months - d4ea(2008 kia carens), 6 months - j3(2012 kia carnival)
    6. mac40-2 days 4d56 Advie
    7. dvldoc 2 years- QD32ETI (1999 Elgrand)
    8. 9701 - 2 months - 4M40T (2003 FM)
    9. coiter - more or less 1 year - TD27 (1998 terrano)
    10. G01 - 5 months - 4m41 (2008 Strada)
    11. regaia - 4 months - 4JJ-TC (2008 Alterra), 3 Months - 1NZ-FE (2004 Vios)
    12. babynos01 - 2 weeks - 2005 tucson crdi
    13. Zhandros - 6months - 4M41 (2009 Strada)
    14. butchyboy - 4-5 months - 4D56 VGT (MS GLSV)
    15. kihmari- 6months- 6he1(1991 isuzu forward), 4hg1(1996 isuzu elf), 4ja1(1998 1.4(2006 hyundai getz),(2009cbr150)
    16. Reepicheep - 2 full tanks (1999 Pajero Fieldmaster 4m40)
    17. kompressor - 9 months (19forgotten Nissan LD20II, 1995 4D56 L200)
    18. D_rock_777 - 6 months - QD32 (2001 Frontier)
    19. MrQ5 - 18 months - 2kd-ftv (2010 Innova G)
    20. Halimaw - 3+ months - 4M40 Pajero Fieldmaster 4x4 M/T
    21. dbok02 - currently on 2nd full tank (4d56 N/A Pajero Gen 1)
    22. otil_flores- 6 months isuzu crosswind 4ja1 matic.
    23. edtf - on & off for a year 4JG2, 4d56T, 2.9 CRDI kia engine (carnival)
    24. ramledi - 2 months 4ja1
    25. blue_gambit - 5 months 4ja1-N/A & 4m40-TDIC + 4d56 ng friend ko (1month)
    26. Arjayboy - 1 month 4ja1- N/A (Crosswind)
    27. louiek - on and off 7 months 4d56 2009 Mitsubishi Adventure.2011 Toyota Hi-Ace Grandia GL d4d 2 months

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    #8
    mga paps parang ganitto rin ba epek to ng 2t mawawala talaga ung black smoke?

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    #9
    Quote Originally Posted by motocyclist View Post
    Hello, this is a bit of off topic.,

    Is there study on the impact of the burning 2T oil on Humans?
    If the tail pipes became sticky because of 2T.
    How about our Lungs.
    Baka mas masahol pa yan sa usok ng sigarilyo.

    If our lungs did got those sticky oil,
    I'm sure, those cough syrup companies will be VERY happy.

    I already heard some company try to sell 2T oil
    made from vegetable oil. Better siguro, if from olive oil or coconut oil.
    Why would they introduce that?

    I used to live in Quiapo and suffers a lot of lung related problem during the 70's~80's.
    The pollution index in Mercury Drug store in Quiapo church does not work.
    Because the air is filthy. It very seldom report a good index.

    Maybe once in a while ok yun 2T. But not to use it regularly.
    Same reason 2T tricycle engine is being phased out.
    The government could not regulated the quality and quantity.

    There were stories Jeepney drivers re-uses dirty engine oil.
    Just filtering out the dirty particles. If you happen to touched these
    dirty oil in your hands, you will notice that it's itchy.

    If the Jeepneys been doing these, some 2-stroke tricycle
    surely, might be using used car motor oil to replace fresh 2T oils.
    My daughter usually suffer from clogged nose
    when she passes from a tricycle infested area.

    Most of the old jeeps, have damaged piston rings,
    and these oils leak out, burn it with the diesel.
    these are pollutants are injested to the public.

    Just for though, LUNG related death is the highest killer in our country.

    Good point but if you think of it, 2T is just a lubricanf for both motorcycles whenused in 2-cycle engines and in diesels as we do. It is not to be sold sana if harmful to humans since early times karamihan ng motor ay 2-strokes.

    Moreso, kung nakakabwas siya sa unbunt fuel due to the lesser smoke that we see, it means it is doing a better job for the environment as well. Kaya nga masakit sa mata esp yung white smoke.

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    #10
    How is lowering your Hydrocarbon emissions on a diesel engine harmful to you, Honestly I don't know where people come up with this conspiracy junk at.

    Maybe once in a while ok yun 2T. But not to use it regularly.
    Same reason 2T tricycle engine is being phased out.
    The government could not regulated the quality and quantity.
    2T makes you burn more diesel giving you less hydrocarbon output, that's a simple fact. You should be using it every tank, This is a diesel engine not a gas engine it's not the same type of combustion process and not being mixed with gas but diesel, night and day difference.

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    #11
    dvldoc,
    So with continuous use of 2T on 4M41 engines, it won't be necessary to have EGR cleaned anymore?

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    #12
    Newbie here po....mga bossing...after reading the whole thread(75 pages)isa na lang tanong ko po....bago po ba ako maglalagay ng 2T oil (first attemp) sa tangke..dapat din bang magpalit muna ng fuel filter at linisin ang fuel injectors.considering na 10 years na po itong 4ja1 engine pero kapapa calibrate ko last year ng injection pump sabay na rin ung pag papalinis ng mga injectors...fuel filter napalitan na rin 3 months ago.....i have this in mind na considering na old na itong engine..baka magbara sa filter, or sa injectors or sa injection pump..causing the engine na magloko or palayado ang andar ng sasakyan kagaya nang na experience ng isang nag post dito sa thread..Thanks in advance...God bless....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben1031 View Post
    Newbie here po....mga bossing...after reading the whole thread(75 pages)isa na lang tanong ko po....bago po ba ako maglalagay ng 2T oil (first attemp) sa tangke..dapat din bang magpalit muna ng fuel filter at linisin ang fuel injectors.considering na 10 years na po itong 4ja1 engine pero kapapa calibrate ko last year ng injection pump sabay na rin ung pag papalinis ng mga injectors...fuel filter napalitan na rin 3 months ago.....i have this in mind na considering na old na itong engine..baka magbara sa filter, or sa injectors or sa injection pump..causing the engine na magloko or palayado ang andar ng sasakyan kagaya nang na experience ng isang nag post dito sa thread..Thanks in advance...God bless....
    Kahit yung fuel filter lang muna palitan mo if malapit na din 10,000kms na gamit mo sa kanya. Pero if bago pa no need naman palitan. To check if okay fuel mo, get a few ml from your tank in the morning para makita mo sediments sa fuel tank.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Kahit yung fuel filter lang muna palitan mo if malapit na din 10,000kms na gamit mo sa kanya. Pero if bago pa no need naman palitan. To check if okay fuel mo, get a few ml from your tank in the morning para makita mo sediments sa fuel tank.
    Maraming salamat po sir Ry...

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    #15
    Mga sir...sa mga hilander owners using 2T oil....ilan po bang liters ang tangke natin...tama po ba ang mixture na 200ml ng 2T=full tank diesel(yung sagad po, yung kita na po ung diesel sa bunganga ng tangke)..salamat po..ingat po kayo sa daan....God bless...

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    #16
    You would need a oil catch can if u want your egr valve to stay clean.

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    #17
    You would need a oil catch can to keep your egr valve clean.

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    #18
    If u want a clean egr valve get a oil catch can or make youself one.

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    #19
    Did a test with my sound meter, engine is 9 decibels louder without 2t, and my ignition of shutter is significantly harsher. Engine is definetly not as smooth and rpms are 100rpms higher without 2t..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Did a test with my sound meter, engine is 9 decibels louder without 2t, and my ignition of shutter is significantly harsher. Engine is definetly not as smooth and rpms are 100rpms higher without 2t..

    Hey doc, whats the name of the app your using?

    I want to do the same test to my dad's truck.

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