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    So kahapon gabi sobrang tired kona at nagpa gas ako sa shell ng unleaded worth 200. When i was about to pay, nakta ko ibang pump nozzle binalik yung kulay itim which is shell fuelsave diesel instead of the green na fuelsave unleaded. Ang tanong ko is bka naghaluccinate lng ako kagabi sa sobrang pagod kya akalain ko diesel nilagay. As of now hnd nmn nag stutter ung engine still runs fine bka kasi konti lng pina gas kong diesel or dapat ma notice ko agad difference? And magkakasya ba nozzle ng diesel sa gas engine? Ang alam ko mas malaki daw ung diesel kya kng ganun hnd magkakasya sakin un.

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    i wish i can help you.
    but i have never had that mis-experience.
    you can probably google it, better than i can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wish i can help you.
    but i have never had that mis-experience.
    you can probably google it, better than i can.
    sabi sa google different nozzle pump ng diesel at gas. Mas maliit daw ung sa gas so imposible malagay ung diesel pero problema ko is kng ganun din ung case sa gasoline station dito sa pinas especially shell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchijiji View Post
    sabi sa google different nozzle pump ng diesel at gas. Mas maliit daw ung sa gas so imposible malagay ung diesel pero problema ko is kng ganun din ung case sa gasoline station dito sa pinas especially shell
    now that you mention it...
    but in truth, they looked all the same to me.

    but if your engine does not die nor cough...
    what about the resibo, po? does what is printed on it, help? the pump is connected to the cashier's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    now that you mention it...
    but in truth, they looked all the same to me.

    but if your engine does not die nor cough...
    what about the resibo, po? does what is printed on it, help? the pump is connected to the cashier's...

    Huhu sadly this was my mistake. I didnt wait and just drove off. Worth 150 lng kasi kinarga ko sa ayun pero all the time knukuha ko, ngayon ln nde kasi sobrang lkas ng ulan kagabi d kona maantay bka mabaha na

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    Happened to me too (newbie driver that time) kalagitnaan ko na napansin.

    Pina stop ko sa attendant.

    Option given to me was:

    Sir full tank na natin ng unleaded konti lang naman kinarga na diesel, okay lang yan hahalo na.

    I declined.

    Kalasin niyo gas tank and drain it, buti may mechanic kaso pauwi na. Wala siya choice but to fix it.

    Okay naman wala issue nangyari sa car, unlike kay TS tinakbo niya pa pala na may halo diesel sa fuel line.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Happened to me too (newbie driver that time) kalagitnaan ko na napansin.

    Pina stop ko sa attendant.

    Option given to me was:

    Sir full tank na natin ng unleaded konti lang naman kinarga na diesel, okay lang yan hahalo na.

    I declined.

    Kalasin niyo gas tank and drain it, buti may mechanic kaso pauwi na. Wala siya choice but to fix it.

    Okay naman wala issue nangyari sa car, unlike kay TS tinakbo niya pa pala na may halo diesel sa fuel line.


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    Yup pero i did not notice anything nung tibakbo ko. Same padin naman. Bka later kopa maramdaman kasi tutal konti ln nlgay kong diesel?

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    Ang alam ko parehas lang mga size ng nozzle dito sa pinas. Yung kulay interchangeable mga yun. May jacket kasi sya para sa color ng nozzle. Pwedeng gasoline na karga mo pero black nozzle ang ang naka lagay sa pump. Kung minsan kasi hindi na nasusunod yung color ng nozzle. For peace of mind mag fulltank ka ng gasoline asap para kahit pano ma dillute kung diesel man na karga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchijiji View Post
    Yup pero i did not notice anything nung tibakbo ko. Same padin naman. Bka later kopa maramdaman kasi tutal konti ln nlgay kong diesel?
    No idea bro, antay tayo mga experts dito.

    Hopefully wala serious damage sa oto mo, ako kase nge engine was off while filling up kaya Im sure asa gas tank lang napunta, kaya pina drain ko lang.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mokong22 View Post
    Ang alam ko parehas lang mga size ng nozzle dito sa pinas. Yung kulay interchangeable mga yun. May jacket kasi sya para sa color ng nozzle. Pwedeng gasoline na karga mo pero black nozzle ang ang naka lagay sa pump. Kung minsan kasi hindi na nasusunod yung color ng nozzle. For peace of mind mag fulltank ka ng gasoline asap para kahit pano ma dillute kung diesel man na karga.

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    I drove around 7kmsmas kf today. Refuel knina pero hnd pa full tank kasi iniisip ko ipadrain kng magkakaserious damage tlga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchijiji View Post
    I drove around 7kmsmas kf today. Refuel knina pero hnd pa full tank kasi iniisip ko ipadrain kng magkakaserious damage tlga
    if your engine has not yet detected the bad gas, then perhaps the gas boys did not put in the wrong fuel after all.

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    Na curious ako dito at baka mangyari din sakin so sinunod ko payo ni doc na mag google...

    Putting Diesel into Gasoline

    Now, let's look at the reverse – you’re mixing a higher flash, heavier fuel into a base fuel (gasoline) that’s lighter, more volatile and burns at a much lower flash temperature. Despite these differences, putting diesel into gasoline won’t cause nearly as many problems as the reverse.

    The biggest concern is the reduction in octane. Thinking about how gasoline burns in an engine, octane rating is the measurement of gasoline’s ability to ignite at the right time – not too early. Gasoline with lower octane rating will ignite too quickly once it is injected into the chamber. The gasoline ignite and explodes, but the piston is still on its way up and the resulting pressure wave collision gives you (at best) a knocking sound and (at worst) damage to the piston and rod. In a sense, octane slows down combustion, it delays it.

    Gasoline needs to have an octane rating of 87-91 to fit today’s car engines. Diesel fuel has an octane rating of 25-40. Mixing 2% diesel fuel into gasoline will lower the overall octane rating by 1 point. Getting 10% diesel contamination lowers octane by 5 points, which is enough to create problems in most engines. The octane depression rises linearly with increasing percentages of diesel fuel in the gasoline.

    So higher levels of diesel contamination will damage the engine and give you blown pistons and cracked heads. More moderate diesel contamination will give you dirty combustion and can damage the engine over time if something isn’t done.

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    So you put 150 worth of diesel or 4.5 liters, if your tank is 45 liters, that's a 10% mix, I would assume your tank is almost empty and you just placed 150 kesos para mabilis at enough na ito para umabot pauwi. Even at half tank full, sya 25 liters, then the mix would have been 18% or 9 point reduction in octane rating, kung blaze gamit mo down to 91 ka, pero kung 91 gamit mo?

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    First
    The fuel was not loaded into the engine. It was loaded into the fuel tank.
    Second
    You can make the solution more gasoline than diesel by adding more gasoline
    Third
    After you believe the unpure gasoline is all spent, have the spark plugs replaced
    Fourth
    There shouldn't be a major damage from the accidental wrong fuel as you have stated there was no JND - just noticeable difference
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    If it bothers you, drain the contaminated fuel by running the fuel pump direct to power and collect the fuel at the fuel filter fitting or the most convenient location into a suitable container.

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    Moving Forward - MAGlagay ng Sticker sa Gas Tank Cover (UNLEADED) haha para iwas malas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if your engine has not yet detected the bad gas, then perhaps the gas boys did not put in the wrong fuel after all.
    Would it be easily noticeable? Mga 4-5liters of diesel nakargatpos 1/4 lamang ng fuel ko nun. Drinive ko papnta ko kagabi for 3kms, tapos pgkagcng pauwi ng mga 5. No jitters pero lag sa acceleration yun mga na notice ko

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchijiji View Post
    Would it be easily noticeable? Mga 4-5liters of diesel nakargatpos 1/4 lamang ng fuel ko nun. Drinive ko papnta ko kagabi for 3kms, tapos pgkagcng pauwi ng mga 5. No jitters pero lag sa acceleration yun mga na notice ko
    Normally, no harm done.

    To be on the safe side, flush it out...

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    Hirap icompromise ang makina.. Mahal na. . Abala pa..

    Para sating lahat siguro. . Signages really helps..

    Tao din mga gasoline boys natin. Pagod. . Problemada. . Puyat etc.

    Balik sa topic.
    Tama mga payo nila. Flash it out then put signage/sticker!

    Have a safe day boss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimchijiji View Post
    So kahapon gabi sobrang tired kona at nagpa gas ako sa shell ng unleaded worth 200. When i was about to pay, nakta ko ibang pump nozzle binalik yung kulay itim which is shell fuelsave diesel instead of the green na fuelsave unleaded. Ang tanong ko is bka naghaluccinate lng ako kagabi sa sobrang pagod kya akalain ko diesel nilagay. As of now hnd nmn nag stutter ung engine still runs fine bka kasi konti lng pina gas kong diesel or dapat ma notice ko agad difference? And magkakasya ba nozzle ng diesel sa gas engine? Ang alam ko mas malaki daw ung diesel kya kng ganun hnd magkakasya sakin un.
    You can check ur sales invoice makijita mo kung ano nakarga nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x-wind View Post
    You can check ur sales invoice makijita mo kung ano nakarga nila.

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    I believe hindi niya kinuha kagabi ang receipt.

    On the other hand, if it's not too far from you why not go back to the gas station and check the pump itself?

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