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July 1st, 2020 12:05 PM #541You are spreading unverified information, surgical mask can not filter out particulate matter as small as 2.5 or fine dusts that comes from diesel engines, coal and diesel power plants, farming pesticides, mining chemicals and much much more. Only N95 rated masks and 3M masks can filter those out asides from the cheaper alternative like the cabin filter.
Diesel fumes are highly hazardous to your health, only reputable brands like WIX, JS Asakashi & etc... which have carbon, bio & WIX XP multi-layer protection cabin filters.
Diesel emission facts
What Are Diesel Emissions
WIX XP Cabin filters
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July 1st, 2020 12:07 PM #542Carbon dioxide is not the only element you should be afraid of inhaling especially if you are in a place where old jeepneys, AUVs such as Tamarraw FX, Revo, Adventure, Crosswind & etc..., buses and commercial van like L300 and trucks that are running in your area you might not see it with your naked eye but it will adversely affect your health.
Also if what you say is true, then why do cabin filters get this dirty? Can you explain your point further? If basically only recirculated air in the cabin is so clean?
If you are putting a generic China made filter then you are risking your health to particulate matter that is unseen to the eye.
Allergens are not the main point of negative effects when using a cabin filter, that is where you are wrong. That is only an add-on feature from the cabin filter.
The main point of the cabin filter is to clear toxic pollutants from the atmosphere since your immune system does not develop anti-bodies versus toxic pollutants.
I think you need to get re-educated on how an aircon cabin(inside of a vehicle) filter works.
Doesn't mean that you are using the re-circulation that polluted air doesn't go inside the vehicle's interior/cabin I think you have a wrong idea or view on how the cars' air-con system works.
I'm here to tell you that you need to study and research how the AC system works in a vehicle. Polluted air enters through the ventilation system or the air-conditioning system.
Also generic China cabin filters has less fibers inside compared to high quality filters like Mann+Hummel & WIX brands, means less dust and pollutants are being trapped by the cabin filters since it is less dense and thinner than high quality filters.
Also FYI(For your information)
WIX Standard O.E. cabin filters only costs around P380 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Hilux, Fortuner & etc... up to Subaru models roughly around P900.
JS Asakashi Standard filters only costs around P300 for vehicles like Vios, Innova, Hilux, Fortuner & etc... up to Subaru models roughly around P600
You might be buying China filters for similar or more than that amount because auto shops that sell generic China tend to mark-up their dirt cheap products to around 350 pesos to 850 pesos because they are unscrupulous types of merchants.
The usual tagaan and low quality tindahan/ retail shops are unlike the carefully chosen WIX or JS Asakashi authorized dealers which tend to be more on providing quality service, continuous long term business(Loyal clients) and tend to follow SRP(Suggested retail prices) formulated by reputable suppliers that handle well known brands.
According to the shops that are authorized dealers of either WIX or JS Asakashi is that they were chosen because they would agree and conform to the distributor's policies like "NO ONE TIME BIG TIME SALE" type of selling, unlike those engage in selling low value and low quality imbento brands exactly like Circuit brand or similar with CD-R King type of brandings.
Again I'm not here to criticize or provoke people with their hearsay's beliefs, I'm here to educate people who loves cars and normal car owners here more on proper, actual, accurate & well documented facts and figures.
Your statement is also wrong for latest car models that have no cabin filters. I don't know where you are getting your unverified information from.
All latest car models except Suzuki cheaper models starting from 2003~UP have cabin filters
Toyota Wigo, Yaris, Vios, Corolla Altis, Camry, 86, GR Supra, Avanza(Rebadge Daihatsu), Innova, Hilux, Hiace, Previa, Alphard, Rush(Rebadge Daihatsu), Rav4, Fortuner, FJ Cruiser, Landcruiser Prado & Landcruiser
Mitsubishi Mirage hatchback, Mirage G4, Lancer, Strada, Xpander, ASX, Outlander, Montero Sport & Pajero
Nissan Almera, Sylphy, Teana, 370z, GT-R, Navara NP300, Urvan NV350, Juke, X-Trail, Terra and Patrol Royale
Hyundai Eon, Accent hatchback, Veloster, Ioniq, Reina, Accent sedan, Elantra, Grand Starex, H350, Kona, Tucson, Santa Fe & Palisade
Suzuki Higher end models like Swift, Vitara, Grand Vitara XL-7 & etc...
Ford Fiesta, Mustang, Ecosport, Ranger, F-150, Transit, Everest, Explorer & Expedition
Honda Brio hatchback, Jazz, Brio Amaze, City, Civic, Accord, Legend, Mobilio, BR-V, HR-V, CR-V & Pilot
Isuzu D-Max & Mu-X
KIA Picanto, Rio, Soluto, Forte, Stinger, Grand Carnival, Seltos, Sportage & Sorento
So on and so forth
Chevrolet
Subaru
Mazda
BMW
Mercedez Benz
Bentley
Audi
Porsche
Lamborghini
Lexus
Volkswagen
Dodge
Jeep
RAM
Peugeot
Land Rover
Jaguar
Volvo
Mini Cooper
Ssangyong
Aston Martin
Even China and India car manufacturer brands have cabin air filters, jeeze.
MG
BAIC
GAC
Geely
JAC
Tata
Check the link below:
Mann+Hummel Cabin Filters
WIX Cabin Filters
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July 1st, 2020 12:12 PM #543
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July 1st, 2020 12:14 PM #544For Filters eto mga pinagpipilian ko:
Oil filter: Baldwin kaso nagmahal na nasa P400 each, WIX reasonable naman price nasa 300 to 350, JS Asakashi, Toyota filter
Air engine filter: Toyota, WIX, Denso( Aftermarket), JS asakashi, Vic, Sakura
Cabin filter: Toyota, WIX, Denso( Aftermarket), JS asakashi, Vic, Sakura
No need to buy cheap unknown filters. Reasonable naman price ng Vic, Denso, JS, at Sakura.
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July 1st, 2020 12:46 PM #545C02 molecular bond is a millionth of a micron and your best cabin filter in the world could go only a tenth of a micron, hence carbon dioxide poisoning from not re-circulating or opening the car doors to vent or renew oxygen is more fatal than the larger pollutants.
Try to get soo clean then expose yourself to the naturally polluted environment, see how your body reacts. Immunity comes from infection or exposing from pollutants for the body to react build immunity/fight naturally. Antiasthma meds are also strain of pollutants introduced little-by-little to the body to make the immune system. So my point is, its not good always to be soo clean.
No need to re-educate how AC works, because i repair them as an enthusiast. The best AC system is located in the space station where scrubbers are used to recycle air, its not an ordinary paper element filter. There are vehicles that came out from the plant that does not have cabin filters because its an optional thing for some regions.
I am using Sakura Indonesia BTW cheaper than Wix, no need to worry I'm anti China.
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July 1st, 2020 12:54 PM #546Your surgical mask actually doesn't do anything against fine dust, particulate matter of 2.5 and below and other harmful matters. Even if you disregard pollen as a small matter, but for people that are sensitive or with asthma or sinusitis or gets easily attack by allergic rhinitis is a big deal since it could lead to sore throat and continuous intake of antihistamines, decongestant and antibiotics which is harmful to the body since your body will develop resistance to those drugs and in the future you would need higher dosage. My wife is actually a doctor in Otorhinolaryngology or layman's term ENT(Ear, Nose & Throat) and she is like me a car guy/gal.
Surgical mask are not effective in filtering out dust, particulate matter and etc... the effective mask are N95 & respirators like 3M, Honeywell & etc...
Again meron kasi tayong practice dito sa Pilipinas na actually mali.
"Kung ano ang nakasanayan yun nalang ang susundin." - this statement is very wrong
Kung ano man nakasanayan ng isang tao doesn't mean na tama.
May ibang maka lumang mekaniko na sinasabi na wala daw kwenta ang thermostat kaya kapag nasisira tinatapon nalang nila, alam mo ano reason? Kasi nakasanayan na nila daw ang reason and wala naman daw problema.
The world is constantly changing you must also update your knowledge in the present time, global warming is real and so is the pollution clouding the world, you can't see it with your eyes but if nasa province ka or wherever place you are try my advice lumabas ka ng bahay mo sa gabi at gumamit ka ng high powered or high lumens flashlight itapat mo sa langit makikita mo kung gaano kaalikabok or kadumi ang lugar mo.
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July 1st, 2020 02:03 PM #547
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July 1st, 2020 02:13 PM #548
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July 1st, 2020 02:43 PM #549
Nice discussion here. Glad to have that flashlight link. I wish old members like you will return and share their experience and knowledge.
A great addition to our experts, like a CoViD 19 expert, Taal Volcano expert, love expert, political expert, fitness expert, and even a futuristic expert!
Speaking of which, is he still around?
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To stay relevant, do you have a link for official stores of cabin filters, air filters, and oil filters?
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July 1st, 2020 04:14 PM #550For what vehicle model are you using the Sakura cabin filter? Most of the cars now that I mentioned from my previous post has original factory built in cabin filter and casing.
How much does the Sakura Indonesia cost? Since WIX is either made in USA, Poland, South Korea, Ukraine, Czech Republic & etc...
Also if you put the Sakura, WIX and etc... side by side then using an electric portable microscopic magnifier you can see the difference of the synthetic fibers inside the filter.
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