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    #21
    multi grade is multigrade. mineral oil that is amultigrade is still multigrade. di ko naman sinabi na mono-grade.

    its not a scam. theyre just "up" selling with fancy bottle upgrades like the sticker and cap.

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    #22
    thanks for the information sir. the product information is indeed misleading. they market it as fully synthetic oil when it is mineral oil. I'll tell the dealer about this.

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    may nakalagay po sa bote na fully synthetic oil. yong last line below the red label.

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    Ung Pro Tec 5W40 yata ang fully synthetic.
    Mineral ung Pro Tec 15W40.
    Alin sa dalawa ang sabi ng dealer na FS?
    Ung 15W40 may nakalagay sa bote na fully synthetic?

    May nabili kasi ako dati na fully synthetic sa harap pero sa likod synthetic blend pala.

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    yes sir. ang Sabi sa akin, FS din yong protec 15/40. may label din sa bote na fully synthetic oil. at least I know na mineral oil lang siya. kaya pala mura lang.

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    #25
    ito yong brochure nila. protec ultra 15/40, fully synthetic at P211/ltr while protec ultra 5/40 FS at P295/ltr.

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    #26


    Ardeca Pro-Tec Ultra 15W4 *1 liter motorolie - Ardeca oil to win

    label says fully-synthetic but website description says semi-synth. there's some BS going on

    now you would think that "pro-tec" is their designation for mineral oil, and that "pro-tec ultra" their fully-synthetic but nope. they do have a protec ultra that's mineral their naming scheme is all screwed up

    now looking at the price list the difference between mineral and FS is very small. you have to remember that "fully synthetic" is now just a marketing term. there's a big fuss about this many years ago... castrol i think claimed that a highly-refined group 3 oil is sufficiently "altered" to be considered a "fully synthetic".

    so maybe these ardeca fully-synthetics are just stretching the definition of fully-synthetic a bit more

    as for me i'll stick w/ my tried-and-tested mineral oils

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    #27
    wala kasi regulation, they can sell wrongly labeled items. misleading people..

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    wala kasi regulation, they can sell wrongly labeled items. misleading people..

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    seems like an issue w/ definition of terms ;) specifically the definition of "fully synthetic"

    just look at the price list. the 15w40 FS costs just 16% more than the mineral. so expect about 16% better performance ;)

    in the real world people pay twice more and usually get a LOT less than 2x improvement. that's just how things work as for this ardeca FS oil don't expect it to perform a lot better than mineral

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    #29
    Sa website ng Ardeca Belgium masa mineral oil nakalista ang Protec Ultra 15W40.
    "High Performance" ang nakalagay sa lower right.
    Nakakalito naman 'to...ano ba talaga 😅

    oilproducts - PRO-TEC ULTRA 15W4

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    #30
    baket ka pa malilito? its cheap, it only means one thing.. they're selling mineral oil with "fully synthetic" labels..


    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Rider Blac View Post
    Sa website ng Ardeca Belgium masa mineral oil nakalista ang Protec Ultra 15W40.
    "High Performance" ang nakalagay sa lower right.
    Nakakalito naman 'to...ano ba talaga 😅

    oilproducts - PRO-TEC ULTRA 15W4

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