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  1. Join Date
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    went to true value ATC yesterday and looked around for synthetic oils...how would you know kung totoong synthetic oil? I mean iba-iba nakasulat eh, meron 100% synthetic, yun iba fully synthetic, yun iba naman synthetic lang nakasulat...

    so among those na nabanggit ko ano yun totoong synthetic dyan? kasi I assumed na dapat 100% synthetic ang "real" synthetic...tama ba ako?

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    Actually, even many synthetic oils have mineral oil "stock". You have to really research to find out.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Maybe it will help if we list the 100% synthetic oils and the synthetics with mineral base.

    From what I know the following are 100% synthetic or Group IV oils:
    Motul 300V
    Motul 8100 Xcess
    Royal Purple

    Synthetics with mineral base:
    Caltex Havoline Energy

    Dont know about these. I suspect they are mineral based but I'm not sure. can someone pls chip in:
    Shell Helix Ultra
    Petron Ultron Race
    Castrol RS
    Mobil 1
    Caltex Fully Synthetic
    Motul H-Tech 100

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    Castrol Magnatech - synthetic with mineral base
    Emerat - mineral
    Pitt Penn - mineral

    hehehe konti lang maiaambag ko nakalimutan ko na kasi ang iba. . .

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    Castrol Magnatech is actually semi-synthetic oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by userfriendly View Post
    Maybe it will help if we list the 100% synthetic oils and the synthetics with mineral base.

    From what I know the following are 100% synthetic or Group IV oils:
    Motul 300V
    Motul 8100 Xcess
    Royal Purple

    Synthetics with mineral base:
    Caltex Havoline Energy

    Dont know about these. I suspect they are mineral based but I'm not sure. can someone pls chip in:
    Shell Helix Ultra
    Petron Ultron Race
    Castrol RS
    Mobil 1
    Caltex Fully Synthetic
    Motul H-Tech 100
    kaya pala cheap yun motul h-tech sa mga mall based hardware kasi mineral base...kasi I think mura siya for a 100% synthetic oil diba?

    pero it says in the package na 100% synthetic siya ah...?

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    ooops my mistake, kaya pala mahal P250+ per liter kasi dito . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    kaya pala cheap yun motul h-tech sa mga mall based hardware kasi mineral base...kasi I think mura siya for a 100% synthetic oil diba?

    pero it says in the package na 100% synthetic siya ah...?
    pls dont get me wrong. I said I dont know if they are 100% synthetic or mineral based synthetic. I only suspect they are mineral based. I may be wrong and thats why I asked for someone to confirm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by userfriendly View Post
    Maybe it will help if we list the 100% synthetic oils and the synthetics with mineral base.

    From what I know the following are 100% synthetic or Group IV oils:
    Motul 300V
    Motul 8100 Xcess
    Royal Purple

    Synthetics with mineral base:
    Caltex Havoline Energy

    Dont know about these. I suspect they are mineral based but I'm not sure. can someone pls chip in:
    Shell Helix Ultra
    Petron Ultron Race
    Castrol RS
    Mobil 1
    Caltex Fully Synthetic
    Motul H-Tech 100

    basta po fully synthetic ang nakalagay fully synthetic siya talaga
    mobil1
    castrol rs
    shell helix ultra

    kapag synthetic based/blend po eto po yung mga semi synthetic
    castrol magnatec
    mobil s
    shell helix plus

    kapag mineral oil po ang nakalagay e mineral oil po yun
    shell helix super
    mobil xhp

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    #10
    Hindi lahat ng synthetic oils ay talagang 100% synthetic. Majority are made from hydrocracked oils. Hydrocracked oils are very highly refined oils. These are called group III oils which are different from group IV oils. Group IV are true synthetics or man made.

    Basically, Mobil sued Castrol for marketing and selling a group III oil as a full synthetic. The court ruled in favor of Castrol. So in effect the courts defined group III oils as full synthetics.

    So now there are:
    1. mineral oils or dino based oils
    2. semi-synthetic oils which are oils that contain less than 30% synthetic stock
    3. full synthetic oils that can be further classified into Group III and Group IV oils.

    Nakakalito no.

    Eto ang better explanation: http://www.synthetic-oils-wholesale....p?route=whatIs
    Last edited by userfriendly; November 20th, 2007 at 05:44 PM.

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