another engine oil question....

[shadow]

went to true value ATC yesterday and looked around for synthetic oils...how would you know kung totoong synthetic oil? I mean iba-iba nakasulat eh, meron 100% synthetic, yun iba fully synthetic, yun iba naman synthetic lang nakasulat...

so among those na nabanggit ko ano yun totoong synthetic dyan? kasi I assumed na dapat 100% synthetic ang "real" synthetic...tama ba ako?

[niky]

Actually, even many synthetic oils have mineral oil "stock". You have to really research to find out.

[userfriendly]

Maybe it will help if we list the 100% synthetic oils and the synthetics with mineral base.

From what I know the following are 100% synthetic or Group IV oils:
Motul 300V
Motul 8100 Xcess
Royal Purple

Synthetics with mineral base:
Caltex Havoline Energy

Dont know about these. I suspect they are mineral based but I'm not sure. can someone pls chip in:
Shell Helix Ultra
Petron Ultron Race
Castrol RS
Mobil 1
Caltex Fully Synthetic
Motul H-Tech 100

[mazingerZ]

Castrol Magnatech - synthetic with mineral base
Emerat - mineral
Pitt Penn - mineral

hehehe konti lang maiaambag ko nakalimutan ko na kasi ang iba. . .

[userfriendly]

Castrol Magnatech is actually semi-synthetic oil.

[shadow]

Maybe it will help if we list the 100% synthetic oils and the synthetics with mineral base.

From what I know the following are 100% synthetic or Group IV oils:
Motul 300V
Motul 8100 Xcess
Royal Purple

Synthetics with mineral base:
Caltex Havoline Energy

Dont know about these. I suspect they are mineral based but I'm not sure. can someone pls chip in:
Shell Helix Ultra
Petron Ultron Race
Castrol RS
Mobil 1
Caltex Fully Synthetic
Motul H-Tech 100

kaya pala cheap yun motul h-tech sa mga mall based hardware kasi mineral base...kasi I think mura siya for a 100% synthetic oil diba?

pero it says in the package na 100% synthetic siya ah...?

[mazingerZ]

ooops my mistake, kaya pala mahal P250+ per liter kasi dito . . .

[userfriendly]

kaya pala cheap yun motul h-tech sa mga mall based hardware kasi mineral base...kasi I think mura siya for a 100% synthetic oil diba?

pero it says in the package na 100% synthetic siya ah...?

pls dont get me wrong. I said I dont know if they are 100% synthetic or mineral based synthetic. I only suspect they are mineral based. I may be wrong and thats why I asked for someone to confirm.

[sboogie]

Maybe it will help if we list the 100% synthetic oils and the synthetics with mineral base.

From what I know the following are 100% synthetic or Group IV oils:
Motul 300V
Motul 8100 Xcess
Royal Purple

Synthetics with mineral base:
Caltex Havoline Energy

Dont know about these. I suspect they are mineral based but I'm not sure. can someone pls chip in:
Shell Helix Ultra
Petron Ultron Race
Castrol RS
Mobil 1
Caltex Fully Synthetic
Motul H-Tech 100

basta po fully synthetic ang nakalagay fully synthetic siya talaga
mobil1
castrol rs
shell helix ultra

kapag synthetic based/blend po eto po yung mga semi synthetic
castrol magnatec
mobil s
shell helix plus

kapag mineral oil po ang nakalagay e mineral oil po yun
shell helix super
mobil xhp

[userfriendly]

Hindi lahat ng synthetic oils ay talagang 100% synthetic. Majority are made from hydrocracked oils. Hydrocracked oils are very highly refined oils. These are called group III oils which are different from group IV oils. Group IV are true synthetics or man made.

Basically, Mobil sued Castrol for marketing and selling a group III oil as a full synthetic. The court ruled in favor of Castrol. So in effect the courts defined group III oils as full synthetics.

So now there are:
1. mineral oils or dino based oils
2. semi-synthetic oils which are oils that contain less than 30% synthetic stock
3. full synthetic oils that can be further classified into Group III and Group IV oils.

Nakakalito no.

Eto ang better explanation: http://www.synthetic-oils-wholesale....p?route=whatIs

[washburn]

royal purple ba full synthetic? entry level niya?

[XTO]

IMO kaya synthetic or fully synthetic ang required ng almost car manufacturer sa ngayon ay dahil mahaba ang warranty na 3yrs or 100K kms… sila rin kasi ang mapeperwisyo if engine breakdown arises within that period….. sa synthetic nga naman assured na ang protection ng engine, dagdag income pa dahil sagot naman ng owner ang oil to be use eh.

Marketing is great.

[speedyfix]

washburn, yep tama ka dyan.

DonT, all porsches, mercedes, bmw's and audis require full syn oil. same goes with the even higher brands like ferrari and lambo.

shadow, we've got the 15w40 diesel oil na RP in the shop. perfect yun

[DonT]

^ Thanks for the info. How about Diesel Engines..when would you recommend to start using synthetic oils? I have read somewhere that diesel engines tend to break in a lot longer compared to gasoline engines. Maybe you can shed more light on this.

[speedyfix]

start using the full syn on diesel oils around 10-15k kms na

[taraki17a]

confirmed, it was too much engine oil. hindi dahil sobra ang refill, kundi dahil kulang ang pagdrain sa initial oil... we had to drain around 1.3 liters of the oil to put the engine oil level below the max mark of the dipstick... new oil was already black in color after just around 150km.

[kisshmet]

focus on the viscosity rating like API & SAE rather than the oil type



for insightful understanding of SAE multigrade rating go to bizol.com then click the "viscosity comparison" to see the difference with the different viscosity ratings

[Retz]

Ung Kixx RV Turbo and Zic RV 100% FS oil ba?

[falken]

confirmed, it was too much engine oil. hindi dahil sobra ang refill, kundi dahil kulang ang pagdrain sa initial oil... we had to drain around 1.3 liters of the oil to put the engine oil level below the max mark of the dipstick... new oil was already black in color after just around 150km.

Kumusta na hatak? Bumalik na sa dati? Kung kulang ang pagdrain sa old engine oil mo, mukhang minamadali nila ang trabaho nila.

[taraki17a]

Kumusta na hatak? Bumalik na sa dati? Kung kulang ang pagdrain sa old engine oil mo, mukhang minamadali nila ang trabaho nila.

Sir falken. Sorry for the late response. After nagbawas ako ng engine oil balik to normal performance. Ok na...

My problem now is, They did it again! Even after requesting the service advisor to fill the engine up to 3/4 of the dipstick min-max mark. Same symptoms reappeared I.e hirap tumaas ang rev after 2.5k rpm and oil reach above max marking on dip stick.

Will go to a near shop to drain some engine oil.