UniQ FCE (Fuel Combustion Enhancer)

[ravelcop]

Mga bro,

i saw this device being sold here in Ayala Center, Cebu. gas-saving device na ikinakabit sa loob ng hose na daluyan ng air papuntang intake manifold. it makes the air swirl as it enters the combustion chamber, thus promotes better air/fuel mixture and efficient combustion. they have a 10-day moneyback guarantee, it costs 2500 bucks free installation

what can you say about this mga tsikoteers? im sure you heard about it na. although i want to satisfy my curiousity, i just also want to know if 10 days is already enough to know kung ano side effect ng device (if any). for those who have tried it and were not satisfied, binabalik ba nila kaagad ang pera mo right there and then without hassles?

Check out their website: http://www.uniqpoint.com
i think pinalitan na nila ang name into ECE (Engine Combustion Enhancer)

[ILuvDetailing]

mmm... 10 days isn't enough. But honestly I wouldn't buy any of those "fuel saving" devices unless tested... AFAIK puro marketing lang yan.

[KALAMPAG]

Same concept with the turbonator (http://www.turbonator.com/).

Do a search for turbonator in this forum and you'll have some ideas pre.

Good luck.

[ghosthunter]

Mga bro,

i saw this device being sold here in Ayala Center, Cebu. gas-saving device na ikinakabit sa loob ng hose na daluyan ng air papuntang intake manifold. it makes the air swirl as it enters the combustion chamber, thus promotes better air/fuel mixture and efficient combustion. they have a 10-day moneyback guarantee, it costs 2500 bucks free installation

what can you say about this mga tsikoteers? im sure you heard about it na. although i want to satisfy my curiousity, i just also want to know if 10 days is already enough to know kung ano side effect ng device (if any). for those who have tried it and were not satisfied, binabalik ba nila kaagad ang pera mo right there and then without hassles?

Check out their website: http://www.uniqpoint.com
i think pinalitan na nila ang name into ECE (Engine Combustion Enhancer)

BIG WASTE OF MONEY

[ravelcop]

ghosthunter,

medyo bitin lang ako sa comment mo, if possible, could you explain why? nasubukan mo na ba? or meron ka bang kakilala na nakasubok na and had negative feedbacks about it? i really need your inputs here. bat mo nasabing waste of money kung money-back guarantee naman?

[the_wildthing]

Ako one liner din ang sagot... http://www.fuelsaving.info/turbulence.htm

Eto na lang. If that were true, everybody would be putting it in, sa manufacturer pa lang.

[ILuvDetailing]

revelcop: Check the khaos thread under car talk. You'll find it interesting...

[roninblade]

i agree with wildthing. if that technology has been found to improve combustion, car manufacters pa lang maglalagay na ng ganyan.

[ghosthunter]

ghosthunter,

medyo bitin lang ako sa comment mo, if possible, could you explain why? nasubukan mo na ba? or meron ka bang kakilala na nakasubok na and had negative feedbacks about it? i really need your inputs here. bat mo nasabing waste of money kung money-back guarantee naman?

ako pa yung naging defensive. At any rate, the "ECE" device will cause "swirls" in the air but those same swirls will not reach the combustion chamber given the twists and turns of the engine's intake manifold all the way to the cylinders. All it does is create a constriction in your engine's intake, the loss of flow would be more pronounced at the top end of your engine's rpm range.

Big waste of money because you will still have to "test" the effectivity of the device in ten days. Then if you feel it is not effective, you will still have to drive your car back to the dealer. Theoretically he will immediately give back your money. But thats hardly the case, he would probably need to "test" your car as well. he might also give other excuses as well. Given that time is money, the more time you waste with "testing", you are also wasting money.

We can already know that devices like the "ECE" does not work as claimed so why bother trying the "Nth" version that came out on the market?

[mazdamazda]

ako pa yung naging defensive. At any rate, the "ECE" device will cause "swirls" in the air but those same swirls will not reach the combustion chamber given the twists and turns of the engine's intake manifold all the way to the cylinders. All it does is create a constriction in your engine's intake, the loss of flow would be more pronounced at the top end of your engine's rpm range.

yup... you have to place the device right before the combustion chamber for it to theoretically work.

and even if it is placed right before the combustion chamber, the swirl generated will be negated by the speed of the air flow.

[mistah]

check khaos 1st

[ghosthunter]

yup... you have to place the device right before the combustion chamber for it to theoretically work.

and even if it is placed right before the combustion chamber, the swirl generated will be negated by the speed of the air flow.

... not to mention the possible danger of the device being sucked into the engine block under high revs.

[specv]

check out the specs on the Mazda6's 3.0L V6 engine...

...it's supposed to have "swirl vanes" cast into the intake runner.....closer to the valve opening...

swirling of the charge mixture has been done in the past...
...VTEC-E equipped Honda's close one (of the two) intake valves to promote swirl and tumble to ensure better combustion and fuel economy...I'll dig up more info once I get the time to...

[chieffy]

may similar product na nakakabit sa namana kong stainless intake tube mula sa dating SiR ng pamangkin ko...didnt feel any difference/noticed any improvements sa fuel economy noong tinaggal ko yung stock air cleaner hose at ipinalit ko yung stainless tube with the similar product...if you guys want to try it ipamana ko na lang sa inyo...tinatamad akong tanggalin kaya di ko na tinaggal noong nakita ko iyon noon...any volunteer?

[falken]

This product sounds so much like the Turbo Stormy device that I heard about years ago.

[mazdamazda]

check out the specs on the Mazda6's 3.0L V6 engine...

...it's supposed to have "swirl vanes" cast into the intake runner.....closer to the valve opening...

swirling of the charge mixture has been done in the past...
...VTEC-E equipped Honda's close one (of the two) intake valves to promote swirl and tumble to ensure better combustion and fuel economy...I'll dig up more info once I get the time to...

yup. car manufacturers have been doing that ever since (includes Merc & Audi). the key is to place the the device as near as possible to the combustion chamber.

behaviour of the said devices will vary from car to car as you need to study the air thermodynamics of that peculiar engine.

but a device claiming that it is applicable to all vehicles?

[finchy18]

and2 na tong product sa ayala true value..

[niky]

being an owner of 2 generations of mazdas, I've learned a lot about tumble-swirl devices. The tumble swirl effect on mazda engines (this wasn't available here) was only used at very low revs to make combustion more even. At high revs, the tumble vanes are retracted. This only works if the vortices are created either right before/inside the combustion chamber. Bolt ons don't have the same effect.

[niky]

BTW, This VTIC (variable tumble intake control) is different from what's on the mazda 6. It was on the 130hp version of the Lynx RS 2.0 engine sold in the US. Again, like m2 and ghosthunter have said, the effect cannot work before the throttle as the throttle itself causes turbulence that the intake manifold is designed to remove.

[karlbo]

revelcop: Check the khaos thread under car talk. You'll find it interesting...

make it very interesting...