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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    question lang, bakit beyond repair? nabasag ba engine block?
    Good question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Update:

    My cousin called us up, nasilip na nila.
    Beyond repair na daw ang engine, marepair man hindi rin tatagal.

    They suggested replace engine na lang daw.

    My questions:

    Where in the world can we get a surplus engine for this altis na no issues with compatibilities.

    Is this worth the replacement pa? Baka yung ipapalit is gulpi din.

    How do surplus engine ended up of being sold? Refurbished then benta ulit?

    Which I think is still a no-no.

    Anyone knows who can hook us up finding a good one?

    Lastly.

    How much can you sell the car as is with no engine? [emoji23]

    TIA


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    Na pull down na ba nila ang engine sa car, at nabuksan to do some overhaul procedures that they come up to the point na nadesisyunan na nila ng ganun. Matrabaho lang sa isang mekaniko ang mag-overhaul, pero once an experience mechanic have done one, you will be competent to always have your car check to him.

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    #23
    At least ask them to also get a 2nd opinion from another shop/mechanic capable of engine overhaul.

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    baka what they meant was it is beyond their capability? ang problema , is papano ka kukuha ng 2nd opinion. gagastos talaga even for 2nd opinion since kelangan tow.

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    Hi guys. Update lang.

    Pardon the "beyond repair" term i used. Actually i haven't seen the engine physically.

    My dad saw it, gasgas daw talaga yung cylinder. Hindi pa nabuksan yung ilalim pero the mechanic is expecting worst.





    Yan ba yung oil sludge? Nagtutong daw talaga.

    The cost of repair/replacement is tantamount to changing the whole engine na din daw. Mas tatagal pa if makakita ng maayos na engine.

    Honestly purely tiwala na lang kami sa pinsan ko and his mechanic. Trusted namin ito hopefully maayos nila.

    Nag hanap sila kanina sa bulacan, nakakita sila sa pulilan nasa 75K.

    They went straight to banawe may nakita nasa 55K kasama na alternator and ac compressor.

    May issue ba dito sa rehistro? May dapat ba ayusin sa LTO?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Hi guys. Update lang.

    Pardon the "beyond repair" term i used. Actually i haven't seen the engine physically.

    My dad saw it, gasgas daw talaga yung cylinder. Hindi pa nabuksan yung ilalim pero the mechanic is expecting worst.





    Yan ba yung oil sludge? Nagtutong daw talaga.

    The cost of repair/replacement is tantamount to changing the whole engine na din daw. Mas tatagal pa if makakita ng maayos na engine.

    Honestly purely tiwala na lang kami sa pinsan ko and his mechanic. Trusted namin ito hopefully maayos nila.

    Nag hanap sila kanina sa bulacan, nakakita sila sa pulilan nasa 75K.

    They went straight to banawe may nakita nasa 55K kasama na alternator and ac compressor.

    May issue ba dito sa rehistro? May dapat ba ayusin sa LTO?


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    if the spare engine has ownership papers, there should be no problem. the LTO has procedures for "change engine".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Hi guys. Update lang.

    Pardon the "beyond repair" term i used. Actually i haven't seen the engine physically.

    My dad saw it, gasgas daw talaga yung cylinder. Hindi pa nabuksan yung ilalim pero the mechanic is expecting worst.





    Yan ba yung oil sludge? Nagtutong daw talaga.

    The cost of repair/replacement is tantamount to changing the whole engine na din daw. Mas tatagal pa if makakita ng maayos na engine.

    Honestly purely tiwala na lang kami sa pinsan ko and his mechanic. Trusted namin ito hopefully maayos nila.

    Nag hanap sila kanina sa bulacan, nakakita sila sa pulilan nasa 75K.

    They went straight to banawe may nakita nasa 55K kasama na alternator and ac compressor.

    May issue ba dito sa rehistro? May dapat ba ayusin sa LTO?


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    Not oil sludge, but fried and toasted engine oil in the cylinder head. Every expert mechanic knows and can tell what causes that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodetor View Post
    Not oil sludge, but fried and toasted engine oil in the cylinder head. Every expert mechanic knows and can tell what causes that.

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    please tell me, sir. i am not an expert mechanic. what causes that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    please tell me, sir. i am not an expert mechanic. what causes that?
    Honestly dr. d: , I am not an expert nor a professional mechanic myself( just a novice). I had experience it once. What causes that, it runs out of recirculating engine oil, and the remaining engine oil(sludge), was heated up to the temperature of frying and toasting it up till dried.

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    When an engine runs out of oil, it will stall the engine from running and extreme heat inside the engine( combustion chamber) wil create pressure, to push it up the remaining oil sludge from the oil pan to the whole inside part of the engine. Oil pan is where the dirt, carbon or sludge of oil collected through filtered recirculated engine oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    Hi guys. Update lang.

    Pardon the "beyond repair" term i used. Actually i haven't seen the engine physically.

    My dad saw it, gasgas daw talaga yung cylinder. Hindi pa nabuksan yung ilalim pero the mechanic is expecting worst.





    Yan ba yung oil sludge? Nagtutong daw talaga.

    The cost of repair/replacement is tantamount to changing the whole engine na din daw. Mas tatagal pa if makakita ng maayos na engine.

    Honestly purely tiwala na lang kami sa pinsan ko and his mechanic. Trusted namin ito hopefully maayos nila.

    Nag hanap sila kanina sa bulacan, nakakita sila sa pulilan nasa 75K.

    They went straight to banawe may nakita nasa 55K kasama na alternator and ac compressor.

    May issue ba dito sa rehistro? May dapat ba ayusin sa LTO?


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    Repairable pa rin naman yan. May katagalan nga lang. Suggestion lang, repair na lang whole engine block parts, tapos palit bili nalang whole cylinder head assembly. On my idea lang to retain engine serial number, and no need to renew registration on change of engine in LTO. Suggestion lang.

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by rodetor View Post
    Repairable pa rin naman yan. May katagalan nga lang. Suggestion lang, repair na lang whole engine block parts, tapos palit bili nalang whole cylinder head assembly. On my idea lang to retain engine serial number, and no need to renew registration on change of engine in LTO. Suggestion lang.

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    Curious lang ako: if regular 5K change oil routine was done, this wouldn't have happened, no?

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by rodetor View Post
    When an engine runs out of oil, it will stall the engine from running and extreme heat inside the engine( combustion chamber) wil create pressure, to push it up the remaining oil sludge from the oil pan to the whole inside part of the engine. Oil pan is where the dirt, carbon or sludge of oil collected through filtered recirculated engine oil.

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    well, it does remind me of our frying pan, after cooking a delicious but particularly un-healthy slab of meat or tocino...

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    #34
    That's horrible. Now I feel nervous about my Altis. Oil sludge in the engine has no signs ba? Couldn't they have detected that on the last oil change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    That's horrible. Now I feel nervous about my Altis. Oil sludge in the engine has no signs ba? Couldn't they have detected that on the last oil change?
    Sluggish ride and poor FC are signs. Tsaka silipn lang with a flashlight yung sa engine oil cover makikita mo na if marumi makina. Dapat makinis mga tappets. Kung parang makapal oil, sludge na yun or papunta na dun.

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Sluggish ride and poor FC are signs. Tsaka silipn lang with a flashlight yung sa engine oil cover makikita mo na if marumi makina. Dapat makinis mga tappets. Kung parang makapal oil, sludge na yun or papunta na dun.
    Thanks. I guess Toyota Altis owners should be extra careful then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Thanks. I guess Toyota Altis owners should be extra careful then.
    Just make sure you change oil every 5,000kms or 6 months whichever comes first. Preferably semi-synthetic sana oil mo para mas matibay sa heat.

    Tsaka make sure the technician checks the inside of the engine nga thru the engine oil cap everytime mag-change-oil.

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    #38
    based on the pictures, it is still repairable and personally, i would prefer that option instead of buying a surplus engine. at least kung total repaired na yan, bago na lahat yan, not unlike na surplus engine na hindi mo alam ang pwedeng maging condition soon. yes, it will work the first few months or years.

    if you are planning to do an engine change, yes, may necessary requirements yan sa LTO.

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    #39
    Kung sa kin, pa rebuild ko yan. Sayang 2004. Akin 2002 1.8G never naman nag sludge. Nasa gamit lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well, it does remind me of our frying pan, after cooking a delicious but particularly un-healthy slab of meat or tocino...
    Just like what it looks on the picture of his cylinder head. Parang duon ka nagprito ng tocino. [emoji4]

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