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    #161
    ^

    baka naman kung kailan mo na gagamitin tska masira yan sir.

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    Done with my custom booster cable. 15ft, 25mm2 AWG3, largest Panther clamp at Deeco.

    More than thrice the weight of the commercial booster.


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    Challenging part is the crimping and soldering.


    Cold solder



    Can't complain, im using cheap soldering station limited to 480C



    Solution.. Torch it



    Nice and neatly cooked solder


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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Challenging part is the crimping and soldering.

    Cold solder

    Can't complain, im using cheap soldering station limited to 480C

    Solution.. Torch it

    Nice and neatly cooked solder
    been planning to do this. question, anong klaseng lead gamit mo? yung nabibili sa deeco na pang electronics or yung ginagamit sa radiator na parang stick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    been planning to do this. question, anong klaseng lead gamit mo? yung nabibili sa deeco na pang electronics or yung ginagamit sa radiator na parang stick?
    when you solder electrical components, use rosin core flux, do not use acid core or solder and acid cleaner like what you see them use on radiators

    How to Solder battery terminals - YouTube


    Solder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by jick.cejoco; July 25th, 2013 at 08:53 AM.

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    #166
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    anong gauge yung cable sir? saan nyo nabili? hindi ako familiar sa Deeco, saan yun sir? Salamat.

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    nosebleed ah.

    anyway i have a fair share on this also. I left the dome light ng montero for more than 24hrs/coding day, ayun "click" sound lang pag start next day. Tried to jumper from my ASX using cheap jumper cable rated 300AMP - but i failed. So what i did was transfer the ASX batt to Montero and start it(success naman) - while montero(gls-v/diesel) idling, I removed the asx batt and installed back the monty's and left idle for 30+/-mins.

    My friends told me that the ASX (1SM) couldn't start the Montero (3SM) batt kahit naka andar pa yun ASX dahil nga diff batts - true? O maybe cheap cables with weak clamps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    been planning to do this. question, anong klaseng lead gamit mo? yung nabibili sa deeco na pang electronics or yung ginagamit sa radiator na parang stick?
    Just ordinary 60/40 Rosin core 1.2mm,

    *madduck - from spare wires of my inverter welder. 25mm2, around AWG3 based from the conversion chart.

    Those clamps are made from steel with copper plating because pure copper can't be that strong. I couldnt find seamless lug-type clamps so I crimped it using ordinary punch. Seamless eye terminal lugs are good when crimped by hydraulic press, no soldering needed..

    Im planiing to make 3 more for the other cars. Im giving away the old jumper wires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skybison View Post
    nosebleed ah.

    anyway i have a fair share on this also. I left the dome light ng montero for more than 24hrs/coding day, ayun "click" sound lang pag start next day. Tried to jumper from my ASX using cheap jumper cable rated 300AMP - but i failed. So what i did was transfer the ASX batt to Montero and start it(success naman) - while montero(gls-v/diesel) idling, I removed the asx batt and installed back the monty's and left idle for 30+/-mins.

    My friends told me that the ASX (1SM) couldn't start the Montero (3SM) batt kahit naka andar pa yun ASX dahil nga diff batts - true? O maybe cheap cables with weak clamps?
    This is what im avoiding. When you need it, won't do the job, useless as leaving the jumper-wire at home.

    Click sound is an indication of not enough current. Like previously discussed, could be clamps, crimps, and the wires. Also next time, leave the jumperwire for 15mins or more to allow the dead battery to charge as charging battery initially draws lots of current.

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    #170
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    Challenging part is the crimping and soldering.


    Cold solder



    Can't complain, im using cheap soldering station limited to 480C



    Solution.. Torch it



    Nice and neatly cooked solder


    I'm sure Master LSB will be proud!

    Post ko yung pinagawa ko. hehe Mas matindi dyan.

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    ^

    Wow, nice jumper cables. I used welding cable for mine, but I did not solder the wires, I drilled holes on the clamps and screwed them tight. It's been in service for about 5 years, has never failed me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    I'm sure Master LSB will be proud!

    Post ko yung pinagawa ko. hehe Mas matindi dyan.
    How long Sir Ry? Baka kasing laki nung kay uls, hahaha..

    I find 3 kilos jumper wire already heavy and bulky. Atleast the 15ft length would allow me to jumper another car from behind or upfront without eating the left/right lane.
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    How to charge a battery the OB way:


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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM View Post
    How to charge a battery the OB way:



    desperate measures. if you were in the jungle maybe.
    first, the alternator needs a battery to work, weak battery, weak charge rate, it will charge eventually but may take considerable time depending on state of charge
    second, the alternator can be spun either way, that is why it is an alternator. the old 6 volt charging system of the willy's jeep used a dynamo which reverses in polarity when spun backwards. the alternator on the other hand can be spun your way like burger king you can have it your way. the best way to charge a battery is from a battery charger not the chainsaw nor another car. charging with a shop charger pushes a deep charge



    there are desperate ways, an example is the gmac 6X6 cckw two and a half ton truck, could be started using rattan vine wrapped around the pulley to use as a starting rope

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    #175
    may sobrang wire sa bahay 500MCM THW naka crimping lugs pwede rin bang gamitin ito pang jumper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    been planning to do this. question, anong klaseng lead gamit mo? yung nabibili sa deeco na pang electronics or yung ginagamit sa radiator na parang stick?
    you can still use soldering wire with rosin core, but you will have to feed it fast! mebbe if you can source the thicker size..
    or you can use the lead bar they use in radiator shops. but you need to get some rosin to add to the parts you are gonna solder, to make the metals stick well.. kahit sa ace, meron nyan.
    and you can use a small blowtorch, to heat it faster and evener..
    i know this system works, because we have used it before, to solder battery cables to battery clamps.
    good luck.
    Last edited by dr. d; July 25th, 2013 at 10:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    you can still use soldering wire with rosin core, but you will have to feed it fast! mebbe if you can source the thicker size..
    or you can use the lead bar they use in radiator shops. but you need to get some rosin to add to the parts you are gonna solder, to make the metals stick well.. kahit sa ace, meron nyan.
    and you can use a small blowtorch, to heat it faster and evener..
    i know this system works, because we have used it before, to solder battery cables to battery clamps.
    good luck.
    thanks! yung rosin ba sa ace din nabibili? i tried to do this before using the lead bar sa hardware (the one used sa rad) but the solder never stuck to the metal... i used a blow torch

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    #178
    If you are referring to the seamless lugs, like this one laying around my box.

    You may solder it



    But the proper tool is this hydraulic crimper. No soldering needed.


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    #179
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    thanks! yung rosin ba sa ace din nabibili? i tried to do this before using the lead bar sa hardware (the one used sa rad) but the solder never stuck to the metal... i used a blow torch
    the one in ace is fine.
    the metal pieces you are going to solder together, have to be shiny. sandpaper them. the rosin helps the solder to stick to the metals. and the metal pieces have to be good and hot, for the solder to work well. that is why you need a big heat source, like a small blowtorch or an industrial soldering iron.
    and there are some metal types you can not solder, because solder won't adhere to them.. aluminum, stainless steel,

    to the guys who prefer crimped ends, the stores selling these cables may have such crimping tool to assist customers with..

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    #180
    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    there are desperate ways, an example is the gmac 6X6 cckw two and a half ton truck, could be started using rattan vine wrapped around the pulley to use as a starting rope
    OT:

    The "deuce and a half". We had them in farm service way, waaaay back, converted to Isuzu 6BB1 engines. Even in waist deep mud, these trucks can pull themselves out, loaded pa ng tubo yan ha.

    I still have a technical manual for these trucks.

    Technical Manual TM 9-801GMC CCKW-352 CCKW-353 CCW-353


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