Battery life span

[JohnM]

i am impressed!
very few females even know what push-start means!

Di ba yan yung button sa dash?

[dr. d]

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di ba yan yung button sa dash?

hahaha!!

[Artur]

Tanong lang mga boss,

yung vios kasi namin 4 years old na, pero hindi pa napapalitan yung battery. Yung battery na gamit ngayon eh yun yung kasama sa kotse noong binili (Motolite Gold). Wala pa naman problema except noong isang beses na medyo matagal umandar kasi matagal ginamit yung radyo sa ACC. Hindi kasi madalas gamitin yung kotse na ito at madalas nasa garahe lang. Dahil marunong na ako magdrive, nakakalabas na ng garahe yung vios. Takot ko lang kasi baka mamaya hindi na lang magstart yung kotse kapag dala ko. Paano ba malaman kung mahina na yung battery? Sa tingin niyo gaano pa tatagal yung battery niya? Short trips lang pala ang takbo ko (Usually 8km lang takbo ko, balikan na yun) tapos pinakamalayo ko naman sa ngayon is 60km balikan.

[Jesto]

Tanong lang mga boss,

yung vios kasi namin 4 years old na, pero hindi pa napapalitan yung battery. Yung battery na gamit ngayon eh yun yung kasama sa kotse noong binili (Motolite Gold). Wala pa naman problema except noong isang beses na medyo matagal umandar kasi matagal ginamit yung radyo sa ACC. Hindi kasi madalas gamitin yung kotse na ito at madalas nasa garahe lang. Dahil marunong na ako magdrive, nakakalabas na ng garahe yung vios. Takot ko lang kasi baka mamaya hindi na lang magstart yung kotse kapag dala ko. Paano ba malaman kung mahina na yung battery? Sa tingin niyo gaano pa tatagal yung battery niya? Short trips lang pala ang takbo ko (Usually 8km lang takbo ko, balikan na yun) tapos pinakamalayo ko naman sa ngayon is 60km balikan.

4 years is quite good already. malapit na nga yan. Better have the express delivery number of Motolite just in case.

You can check the voltage of the batter using a voltmeter. If nasa 12V and below na, malapit na yan

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[keto]

Tanong lang mga boss,

yung vios kasi namin 4 years old na, pero hindi pa napapalitan yung battery. Yung battery na gamit ngayon eh yun yung kasama sa kotse noong binili (Motolite Gold). Wala pa naman problema except noong isang beses na medyo matagal umandar kasi matagal ginamit yung radyo sa ACC. Hindi kasi madalas gamitin yung kotse na ito at madalas nasa garahe lang. Dahil marunong na ako magdrive, nakakalabas na ng garahe yung vios. Takot ko lang kasi baka mamaya hindi na lang magstart yung kotse kapag dala ko. Paano ba malaman kung mahina na yung battery? Sa tingin niyo gaano pa tatagal yung battery niya? Short trips lang pala ang takbo ko (Usually 8km lang takbo ko, balikan na yun) tapos pinakamalayo ko naman sa ngayon is 60km balikan.

Minsan sir bigla na lang bumibigay. Like in my last battery replacement, nung umaga ok pa tapos nung paalis na ako ng gabi ayaw na magstart. After fully charging it, di na talaga siya naghohold ng charge. Like what sir Jesto said, keep motolite's express hatid number handy, plus the cash. NS60 motolite gold was around 4k when I got one a couple of weeks ago.

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Tanong lang mga boss,

yung vios kasi namin 4 years old na, pero hindi pa napapalitan yung battery. Yung battery na gamit ngayon eh yun yung kasama sa kotse noong binili (Motolite Gold). Wala pa naman problema except noong isang beses na medyo matagal umandar kasi matagal ginamit yung radyo sa ACC. Hindi kasi madalas gamitin yung kotse na ito at madalas nasa garahe lang. Dahil marunong na ako magdrive, nakakalabas na ng garahe yung vios. Takot ko lang kasi baka mamaya hindi na lang magstart yung kotse kapag dala ko. Paano ba malaman kung mahina na yung battery? Sa tingin niyo gaano pa tatagal yung battery niya? Short trips lang pala ang takbo ko (Usually 8km lang takbo ko, balikan na yun) tapos pinakamalayo ko naman sa ngayon is 60km balikan.

Minsan sir bigla na lang bumibigay. Like in my last battery replacement, nung umaga ok pa tapos nung paalis na ako ng gabi ayaw na magstart. After fully charging it, di na talaga siya naghohold ng charge. Like what sir Jesto said, keep motolite's express hatid number handy, plus the cash. NS60 motolite gold was around 4k when I got one a couple of weeks ago.

[Stigg ma]

Tanong lang mga boss,

yung vios kasi namin 4 years old na, pero hindi pa napapalitan yung battery. Yung battery na gamit ngayon eh yun yung kasama sa kotse noong binili (Motolite Gold). Wala pa naman problema except noong isang beses na medyo matagal umandar kasi matagal ginamit yung radyo sa ACC. Hindi kasi madalas gamitin yung kotse na ito at madalas nasa garahe lang. Dahil marunong na ako magdrive, nakakalabas na ng garahe yung vios. Takot ko lang kasi baka mamaya hindi na lang magstart yung kotse kapag dala ko. Paano ba malaman kung mahina na yung battery? Sa tingin niyo gaano pa tatagal yung battery niya? Short trips lang pala ang takbo ko (Usually 8km lang takbo ko, balikan na yun) tapos pinakamalayo ko naman sa ngayon is 60km balikan.

dalin sa batt shop na may digital batt capacity/life tester, 2015 na meron na tayo ganito technology... sa toyota P175 ang singil nila sa test na ganito...

[ninjababez]

sa tingin nyo mga bros 24 months is just as safe as every 12 months?

[Ry_Tower]

sa tingin nyo mga bros 24 months is just as safe as every 12 months?

Depende sa battery e. Tsaka sa pag-maintain mo.

Regular check-up can extend battery life kasi. Using heat wrap can also help.

[miko101130]

number one killer nang battery is heat...
heat acts as a catalyst sa pag kasira ng battery...

there are two ways heat will decrease battery life.
1. it speeds up the corrosion of the positive grid of the battery (growth-creep)

2. it increases the sulfide plating on the negative side of the battery (corrosion-creep)

local brands who use recycled lead (Pb), have trouble separating Silver from the lead. most recently manufactured batteries use silver on the grid and post.
50 PPM... even after recycling and re-processing silver impurities will still be present and will result to uneven quality of lead plates.

the latest innovation in conventional lead-acid battery is the use of a special alloy (C-21), with addition of Ba ( BARIUM )... this combination slows the 2 processes mentioned above, increasing battery life dramatically....

ang nakaimbento at gumagawa nyan ay Furukawa battery of japan, which made a joint venture sa number 1 competitor ng amaron sa india, which is EXIDE batteries of U.S.

the incorporation of the technology of furukawa japan battery to the EXIDE line of batteries resulted into a product that is superior in every aspect,

just out of curiosity i bought one yesterday para masubok...

Car Battery Price | Four Wheeler Batteries in India | Passenger Car Battery
India's no 1 products under the EXIDE, SF, SONIC and Standard Furukawa Brands.

SF SONIC batteries

para meh options kayo when choosing batteries, apart from amaron which is also good to begin with.

[crazy_boy]

^magkano ang Exide battery? and saan meron?

[miko101130]

^magkano ang Exide battery? and saan meron?

cb, keh jawe din... competitor ng amaron...

mahal na nang amaron pro, yung 3sm na reverese polarity. 6,300... nung binili ko akin before eh 5k lang ata yun( hi-life version). although tagal na nun ahaha.

yung exide na SF sonic ay 5k ang benta nya... i tried it, bumili ako kahapon... tagal masira nung amaron eh nakakainip kaya nilipat ko sa isang sasakyan na failing na yung nakakabit na battery.. para makasubok ng ibang battery.

mas mabigat Exide Sf sonic compared sa amaron pro.. probably by around 1-2kgs more...

nagka interest ako beside the fact na EXIDE gumagawa, eh dahil doon sa "new alloy post grid material" which is sa research ko eh C21 alloy with Barium...
eh furukawa japan batteries pala nag develop noon... so nasa fore front ng battery development ika nga.. ahahahaha...

sulit na sulit ako sa amaron, 36 months na eh, hopefully eh mas matagal ito masira. para meh benchmark ako.

[Flipo]

number one killer nang battery is heat...
heat acts as a catalyst sa pag kasira ng battery...

there are two ways heat will decrease battery life.
1. it speeds up the corrosion of the positive grid of the battery (growth-creep)

2. it increases the sulfide plating on the negative side of the battery (corrosion-creep)

local brands who use recycled lead (Pb), have trouble separating Silver from the lead. most recently manufactured batteries use silver on the grid and post.
50 PPM... even after recycling and re-processing silver impurities will still be present and will result to uneven quality of lead plates.

the latest innovation in conventional lead-acid battery is the use of a special alloy (C-21), with addition of Ba ( BARIUM )... this combination slows the 2 processes mentioned above, increasing battery life dramatically....

ang nakaimbento at gumagawa nyan ay Furukawa battery of japan, which made a joint venture sa number 1 competitor ng amaron sa india, which is EXIDE batteries of U.S.

the incorporation of the technology of furukawa japan battery to the EXIDE line of batteries resulted into a product that is superior in every aspect,

just out of curiosity i bought one yesterday para masubok...

Car Battery Price | Four Wheeler Batteries in India | Passenger Car Battery
India's no 1 products under the EXIDE, SF, SONIC and Standard Furukawa Braa nds.

SF SONIC batteries

para meh options kayo when choosing batteries, apart from amaron which is also good to begin with.

sir miko101130,
musta na yung experience nyo sa SF SONIC batteries?

Yung mga Suzuki Ertiga coming from India are fitted with this kind...

[miko101130]

sir miko101130,
musta na yung experience nyo sa SF SONIC batteries?

Yung mga Suzuki Ertiga coming from India are fitted with this kind...

ok naman medyo matagal ko na din gamit. ito pinalit ko when my amaron started to fail..

as per spec, its similar sa amaron. dalawa lang naman naglalabanan sa batteries eh, johnston controls at exide batteries.

its more cheaper also comapred to amaron.

the battery market is already competitive compared to what it was before na motolite lang meron dati.

ngayon you can choose amaron/sf sonic/korean(enercell) / thailand na panasonic at hitachi batteries etc...

[jick.cejoco]

Even the best quality battery will not reach full life expectancy if:
There is no hold down or the battery is subjected to impact,

The temperature of the location is always hot,

The charging system is either overcharging or undercharging,

There are too many or too much current draw of additional electrical load other than the factory power loads. Too much borloloy strains the charging system,

And many short stop/start cycles

[dr. d]

doubledouble.

[dr. d]

current lead acid auto batteries deteriorate fastest, when they remain "discharged for long periods of time". nabasa ko (understood it, is different) that the sulphides that form during discharge, flake off and cause diminished ability to hold electrical charge.
the suggestion was, keep the battery fully charged at all times, especially when the vehicle will not be used for long periods of time.

[6thgenaccord]

Even the best quality battery will not reach full life expectancy if:
There is no hold down or the battery is subjected to impact,

The temperature of the location is always hot,

The charging system is either overcharging or undercharging,

There are too many or too much current draw of additional electrical load other than the factory power loads. Too much borloloy strains the charging system,

And many short stop/start cycles

thank you sir!

[jick.cejoco]

Push starting a computer controlled engine car will give you a diagnostic trouble code "no STA" signal detected. This is the same circuit as the 50 of the starter

[dr. d]

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Push starting a computer controlled engine car will give you a diagnostic trouble code "no STA" signal detected. This is the same circuit as the 50 of the starter

but is this standard?
because i never had such code seen!
maybe my car isn't "intelligent enough"?

[jick.cejoco]

Or you were using a code reader. A bi-directional scan tool is different