'92 kia pride stalling problem

[Mysticrhain]

It just sometimes stalls suddenly. It may start after few cranks, also noticed car usually restart within 5- 10 mins tops, i already changed the fuel filter, had the gas tank drained and cleaned, sprayed the carburator with carb cleaner, changed distributor cap ( had a crack in it). The cars idling also seems erratic a times, Car runs fine, does not loose power or jerk but then it just stalls after several minutes, I wonder if my ignition coil is going bad (4 years old ata) or are there any other parts? Plan ko po:help next is to change the spark plugs and HT wires (4 years old din)

[CivicVTi]

My guess would be a failing ignition coil. When you replaced the distributor cap, did you see any oil or dirt inside? If it is dirty or if there is oil, the o-ring should be replaced.

[Mysticrhain]

Dry naman po ung cap nya and no oil, just yung whitish deposits sa mga terminal sa loob, I'll try to replace my ignition coil tomorrow then.

[a3n3as]

Go for orig ignition coil if ever papalitan mo.

[ben_david19]

erratic idling - fouled spark plugs or incorrect air-fuel mixture.

[Mysticrhain]

Gud pm, Sirs, napalitan ko na ignition coil niya pero nandun parin problema, kaninang afternoon, namatay makina, inalis ko isang spark plug niya at nong icheck ko wala spark, ngayung gabi nagstart uli oto, hindi kaya distributor ko mismo deffective na?

[CivicVTi]

Gud pm, Sirs, napalitan ko na ignition coil niya pero nandun parin problema, kaninang afternoon, namatay makina, inalis ko isang spark plug niya at nong icheck ko wala spark, ngayung gabi nagstart uli oto, hindi kaya distributor ko mismo deffective na?

I'm sorry to hear that the problem still persists. I suggest taking the car to a reputable shop and have it diagnosed properly. The problem may be minimal (air-fuel mixture adjustment, spark plug/high tension wire replacement) as ben_david19 earlier suggested but it may be better to have the car thoroughly checked first. If you are in Manila, you may visit Speedyfix. Migs, the owner, is well known here in tsikot.com. Here is their website for more info: http://www.speedyfixph.com/

[isa1023]

... changed distributor cap ( had a crack in it)... The cars idling also seems erratic a times

You basically have the same carb with my Mazda 323 Astina, only that my jets and barrels are bigger in diameter. Below are my two-cents worth as per experience on the carb.

Anyway, how erratic is erratic? Going up and down? Frequently? With aircon on and off?

AFAIK, carbs lose tune overtime especially pag may singaw na [SIZE=1](needs repair kit)[/SIZE] or depende sa atmospheric pressure [SIZE=1](cold/hot? - yes, hindi lang EFI ang affected nito)[/SIZE] at ambient temperature [SIZE=1](hot sunny day/cold rainy nights).[/SIZE]

Ilang RPM menor mo pag may aircon at wala?

May backfire ba (parang sinisinok or inuubo yung kotse)? If it backfires even on idle, have your air/fuel ratio fixed asap. It could cause overheat (mixed too lean).

Na-try mo na ba i-remix yung air/fuel ratio?

sprayed the carburator with carb cleaner

Don't do this too often, especially spraying directly to the barrells without throttling higher revs. Your carb is downdraft. Now imagine where all that dirty slime go.

Plan ko po:help next is to change the spark plugs and HT wires (4 years old din)

Four-year old spark plugs and wires?

I'm beginning to think this could be the culprit.

Car runs fine, does not loose power or jerk but then it just stalls after several minutes

How fine is fine?

If it really doesn't "lose power" or "jerk", then rule out the backfiring issue.

Does it eventually start after stalling? O hard starting na?

napalitan ko na ignition coil niya pero nandun parin problema, kaninang afternoon, namatay makina, inalis ko isang spark plug niya at nong icheck ko wala spark, ngayung gabi nagstart uli oto

How did you check if there was spark?

hindi kaya distributor ko mismo deffective na?

Diba kapapalit mo lang sir?



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Take it to a reputable shop sir.

Good luck.

[Mysticrhain]

You basically have the same carb with my Mazda 323 Astina, only that my jets and barrels are bigger in diameter. Below are my two-cents worth as per experience on the carb.

Anyway, how erratic is erratic? Going up and down? Frequently? With aircon on and off?

AFAIK, carbs lose tune overtime especially pag may singaw na [SIZE=1](needs repair kit)[/SIZE] or depende sa atmospheric pressure [SIZE=1](cold/hot? - yes, hindi lang EFI ang affected nito)[/SIZE] at ambient temperature [SIZE=1](hot sunny day/cold rainy nights).[/SIZE]

Ilang RPM menor mo pag may aircon at wala?

May backfire ba (parang sinisinok or inuubo yung kotse)? If it backfires even on idle, have your air/fuel ratio fixed asap. It could cause overheat (mixed too lean).

Na-try mo na ba i-remix yung air/fuel ratio?



Don't do this too often, especially spraying directly to the barrells without throttling higher revs. Your carb is downdraft. Now imagine where all that dirty slime go.



Four-year old spark plugs and wires?

I'm beginning to think this could be the culprit.





How fine is fine?

If it really doesn't "lose power" or "jerk", then rule out the backfiring issue.

Does it eventually start after stalling? O hard starting na?



How did you check if there was spark?





Diba kapapalit mo lang sir?



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Take it to a reputable shop sir.

Good luck.

1 I rarely use it, ngayon ko lang uli lang po ginamit yung carb cleaner
2 Engine does not overheat naman and no backfires
3 Inalis ko yung isang high tension wire with spark plug at nung turn on namin engine, walang spark nong ground ko sparkplug sa body at engine ng oto, nahawakan ko pa nga wire and di ako nakuryente..hehe
I'll try changing the plugs and wires later, pero hindi ba rare na magsabay pumalpak either ang 4 na plugs or wires at walang spark from plugs 1-4 eh ?
4 Hard starting na sya after stalling pero minsan nagstart din agad siya
5 Distributor cap lang napalitan hindi yung buong distributor, pero my distributor is already old and I suspect it is still the original so it might make it 18 years old. Sabi ng bro ko baka bumibigay na yung components nya or rotor
6 Walang rpm gauge po oto ko pero pansin ko hindi constant tunog ng idle nya pag pansin ko na bumaba parang my very slight shaking nang engine ( ganito na sya noon pa) with aircon on and off
7 Im residing pala in Baguio City kaya hindi pwede kila speedyfix. Papatingin ko mamaya sa mekaniko oto, sana makita na namin culprit.

[speed unlimited]

Pag ignition coil problema pag uminit na ito ihihinto ka nito . Iyong nakita mo naman na whitish sa distributor cap ay umido kailangan maalis kaya mahina bigay ng kuryente at kung may crack palitan muna . Check mo rin iyong hi tension wire mo at iyong carburator mo baka kailangan ng overhaul o linisin kapag marumi na kasi hindi na kaya ng carburator cleaner tumitigas na iyong mga maruming deposit sa loob .

[isa1023]

Walang rpm gauge po oto ko pero pansin ko hindi constant tunog ng idle nya pag pansin ko na bumaba parang my very slight shaking nang engine (ganito na sya noon pa) with aircon on and off

I think this is fine sir.

IMO, based on your description [SIZE=1](sabi mo ganun na siya ever since eh)[/SIZE], it just means your thermoswitch is still working.

You can confirm this if the radiator/aux fan is intermitently shutting off, or is off on cold starts.

[ben_david19]

4 year old spark plugs? kung iridium plugs pwede pa sigurong umabot ng ganun but I assume hindi iridium ang nakalagay sa inyo.

anyway, I suspect your distributor is damaged. here is my take..

1. change the whole distributor
2. change the high tension wires
3. change the plugs pleeeaase

no wonder bakit erratic ang idling niyo sir, your plugs might be full of deposits at hindi na maka-emit ng spark, in short pangit combustion, mahirap mag-start.

just start here sir, if you still stalled, you can post here again, I will try to diagnose your problems based on your post.

[isa1023]

* sir ben, he even mentioned na wala na daw spark yung isang plug niya.

[Mysticrhain]

Maganda po burn ng spark plug niya, bosch na platinum sya, saka quick start po sya before sya nagkaproblema, napalitan na namin distributor nya ng surplus, so far ok na sya ngayon