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    #151
    So far, BYD lang naman ang pinaka reliable Chinese car brand. No. 1 na sila in the world in terms of EV car sales.
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    #152
    One time last march nakasabay ko grupo ng mga byd shark sa balintawak toll plaza. Sila ata yung papuntang north that time na may kasamang mga oto journalists. Maganda naman porma pero kahawig ng ford ranger. Sana ginawang mas distinctive yung design.

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    #153
    nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.

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    #154
    Quote Originally Posted by kuyadriver View Post
    nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.
    if all we are interested in are fuel versus electricity expenses, someone must already have made these computations that clearly favor the electricity bill.
    but once we input the cost of the traditional versus hybrid or EV... where is the break-even odometer reading, i wonder...?

    emf exposure?
    in my opinion,
    we've been living around radios and TVs and all sorts of electric motors for decades...

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    #155
    Quote Originally Posted by kuyadriver View Post
    nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.
    versus putting a celfone right next to your brain everytime you make a call?

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    #156
    Quote Originally Posted by kuyadriver View Post
    nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.
    Meralco rates are php 13/kw while gas is over php 50/Liter
    for equivalence sake we make 1/Kw equal to 1 liter of gas.
    If you have solar panels at home it might even be Zero cost for fueling an EV.

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    #157
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Meralco rates are php 13/kw while gas is over php 50/Liter
    for equivalence sake we make 1/Kw equal to 1 liter of gas.
    If you have solar panels at home it might even be Zero cost for fueling an EV.
    wow! ang laki nga pala talaga ng difference of EVs compared to traditional cars when it comes to costs.

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    #158
    ev-database.org has Wh/km data on many cars. Just multiply by the meralco rate and divide by 1000 (to convert to kWh) to get the running cost in pesos per km.

    To convert km/li to li/km just have 1/(km/li), so if a car is getting 10km/li then it's using 0.1li/km. Multiply by the gasoline price to get running cost in pesos per km.

    So for an example:

    Tesla Model Y Juniper RWD = 164 Wh/km = .164 kWh/km * P12.2628/kWh (Meralco rate as of May 2025) = P2.01/km

    Car with 10km/li = 0.1 li/km * P54.85/li (91 octane price at Unioil Rosario Pasig as of today) = P5.485/km

    So at about 20-25km/li a car will get to running cost parity with a Model Y RWD.
    But that's before you figure in oil changes and scheduled maintenance every 5000km. If you pay P5000 for each of those services and do then every 5000km, that's an additional P1/km.
    I think the big difference is an ev doesn't waste electricity by idling, so your idle power consumption is only the A/C and the gadgets. It's not negligible, but there's less waste than a car. Fudge factor na lang maybe 10-20% if you're stuck in traffic at noon.

    Tesla maintenance AFAIK is almost non existent, only doing repairs as needed or scheduled check every two years. This is from the Model 3 manual:

    Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; May 20th, 2025 at 03:50 PM.

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    #159
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    but once we input the cost of the traditional versus hybrid or EV... where is the break-even odometer reading, i wonder...?
    I ran some numbers before buying our Zenix hybrid...

    If fuel costs lang, there's no way for me to break-even that 283K price difference!

    Pero the Hybrid has power seats, ADAS etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Tesla maintenance AFAIK is almost non existent, only doing repairs as needed or scheduled check every two years. This is from the Model 3 manual:

    Same with BYD. once a year PMS is a big plus, super nakaka-abala na yung every 6 months ng Honda and Toyota (quarterly for non-hybrid Toyotas cars!)

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