Geely Emgrand

**17Sphynx17** · February 27th, 2022 10:28 AM

Exterior styling, like it a lot. Not gaudy or 'sporty' look. So it works for me.

Haven't seen it in the metal yet so I'm really curious about interior cabin space. Per reviews it is larger inside compared to the Vios. But does it reach the cabin space of the current gen Altis? Or just falls short of it?

Price wise is very intriguing for the base model. Reminds me of back in 2014 with the 1.6 MT sylphy having srp of 825k php if I'm not mistaken. It basically undercut all competition price wise (just still didn't sell because it wasn't named sentra - still wonder about this fumble by nissan ph).

And now, this is around 800k for what I understand is the MT... With introductory discount of 50k php + free 1 yr PMS. It will insert itself in consideration (but wont always be the pick).

Did they say who sourced the cvt? Aisin? Jatco? Any other players they could have used?

I can't find where I read it earlier in the week, but the 1.5 na engine is an old design right? Was it a Mitsu or MG design which is explaining why the output is closer to more 'current gen' 1.3l powerplants?

Cant remember where i stumbled upon it for the life of me. I tried rechecking CG and AI but I didnt find it there. Am i imagining this factoid?

**Egan101** · February 27th, 2022 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

Exterior styling, like it a lot. Not gaudy or 'sporty' look. So it works for me.

Haven't seen it in the metal yet so I'm really curious about interior cabin space. Per reviews it is larger inside compared to the Vios. But does it reach the cabin space of the current gen Altis? Or just falls short of it?

Price wise is very intriguing for the base model. Reminds me of back in 2014 with the 1.6 MT sylphy having srp of 825k php if I'm not mistaken. It basically undercut all competition price wise (just still didn't sell because it wasn't named sentra - still wonder about this fumble by nissan ph).

And now, this is around 800k for what I understand is the MT... With introductory discount of 50k php + free 1 yr PMS. It will insert itself in consideration (but wont always be the pick).

Did they say who sourced the cvt? Aisin? Jatco? Any other players they could have used?

I can't find where I read it earlier in the week, but the 1.5 na engine is an old design right? Was it a Mitsu or MG design which is explaining why the output is closer to more 'current gen' 1.3l powerplants?

Cant remember where i stumbled upon it for the life of me. I tried rechecking CG and AI but I didnt find it there. Am i imagining this factoid?

As per the Autodeal site, no price yet on the MT. The Comfort and Premium models come with a CVT tranny. The prices below undercuts all subcompacts available in the local market.

Comfort 1.5L CVT - 798k
Premium 1.5L CVT - 908k

Below is a picture of the interior (front):

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**Egan101** · February 27th, 2022 11:19 AM

This is rear passenger area. The Premium model has rear aircon vents.

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**Egan101** · February 27th, 2022 11:20 AM

The boot (trunk) is big also.

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**thearsenal1205** · February 27th, 2022 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

This is rear passenger area. The Premium model has rear aircon vents.

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its pretty big for a subcompact. it also rivals the mg5 sedan. if i were chose between the two, ill take the emgrand.

**Egan101** · February 27th, 2022 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by thearsenal1205

its pretty big for a subcompact. it also rivals the mg5 sedan. if i were chose between the two, ill take the emgrand.

The Emgrand looks better than the MG5. By the way, the Premium model has a boot sensor. It will open when you’re near as long as you have the FOV key.

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**17Sphynx17** · February 27th, 2022 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

As per the Autodeal site, no price yet on the MT. The Comfort and Premium models come with a CVT tranny. The prices below undercuts all subcompacts available in the local market.

Comfort 1.5L CVT - 798k
Premium 1.5L CVT - 908k

Below is a picture of the interior (front):

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Oh. Thanks for this correction. I thought the base model price was already the MT price. So its actually a cvt base model price, with free 1 yr PMS.

Thanks also for the other photos. Glad to see there is rear vents at least. Hopefully they arent just fans and they actually pull cold air from the front aircon system.

The CG specs didn't mention it being a dual zone climate control system so I have no idea if it is similar to the previous gen Almera rear AC.

**AG4** · February 28th, 2022 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

I can't find where I read it earlier in the week, but the 1.5 na engine is an old design right? Was it a Mitsu or MG design which is explaining why the output is closer to more 'current gen' 1.3l powerplants?

Does not look like a Mitsubishi engine. The intake and exhaust of the Emgrand's 1.5L JLC-4G15B engine is opposite that of Mitsubishi's 4G15, the Geely engine also seems to be using a timing chain instead of a timing belt. MG's 1.5L engine appears to be based on GM-SAIC's 1.5L engine.

Apparently there are engine codes in China that include "4G15" but are not Mitsubishi-based, they just happen to be "4-cylinder Gasoline 1.5 liter" engines.

In Wikipedia somebody linked all engines that contain "4G15" in the engine code to the Mitsubishi's Orion Engine wiki page including those unrelated to the Mitsubishi engine. This might have caused some confusion.

Emgrand's 1.5L engine..

-www.topgear.com.ph

Mitsubishi 4G15

**thearsenal1205** · February 28th, 2022 09:34 AM

For me it looks like derived from the toyota's 1NZ-FE 1.5L engine..

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**AG4** · March 1st, 2022 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by thearsenal1205

For me it looks like derived from the toyota's 1NZ-FE 1.5L engine.

Although there was no 1.5L ZZ Toyota engine, the basic shape of the cam cover, cylinder head and location of the bolts actually look more like that of the 3ZZ-FE (1.6L) and 4ZZ-FE (1.4L) engine of Toyota than the 1NZ-FE (1.5L).

Toyota 3ZZ-FE