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    the cost of insuring investment grade bonds against default is rising

    investment grade yan ha

    nevermind junk bonds

    lalo those issued by US shale oil companies

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    US shale oil companies get funding by issuing junk bonds

    with ultra-low oil prices they won't be able to pay debt

    who are the debtholders?

    that's what the market is concerned about

    on top of what corona19 is doing to the global economy

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    Dow went into freefall....

    DOW Jones Industrial Average dropped more than 1,800 points when the market opens this morning. For S&P, it dropped nearly 7 per cent once the opening bell rung on Wall Street.

    Trading halted within minutes of the stock market opening because of the significant drop. This pause in trading lasted 15 minutes in hopes the market will stabilise. The next "circuit breaker", what these halts are called that work to calm traders when they're panicked, in the market could happen if stocks drop 13 per cent, which would lead to another pause in trading.

    When the markets reopened minutes later, the market stopped steadily declining and is currently fluctuating between a 6 and 7 per cent drop.
    Coronavirus: Stock market plummets over growing virus fears and potential oil war | The Independent

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    US Bank stocks down average 9%. Same problem, exposure to oil...

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    Dow closed 2k points down. Wiping out one year...

    Stock market live Monday: Stocks post major losses, Dow'''s worst point loss ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    US shale oil companies get funding by issuing junk bonds

    with ultra-low oil prices they won't be able to pay debt

    who are the debtholders?

    that's what the market is concerned about

    on top of what corona19 is doing to the global economy
    What do you think uls is this going to be as bad as 2008?

    My bet is NO. Unless these corona virus drags all the way to the end of the year then all bets are off

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    di ko masabi Tidus

    buong mundo apektado

    obviously the biggest effect is on China

    mga factory either shut or operating at half capacity... mag ports din

    global commerce laki ng binagal... shipping companies are canceling voyages coz they aren't loading enough containers to make a voyage worth it

    --

    globally lahat ng business may utang

    ung pambayad sa utang galing sa cash flow

    pag humina ang cashflow di makabayad

    kung sino pinag kaka utangan tatamaan

    domino effect

    kaya nag re-reprice ang risk itong mga araw

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    #9908
    we ain't seen nothing yet

    it's gonna get worse

    i mean the real economy, di lang sa financial markets

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    #9909
    a company tries to borrow money from investors... in this environment


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    The Bank of England announces that the Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) voted unanimously to reduce Bank Rate by 50 basis points to 0.25%, Bloomberg News reports.

    “The reduction in Bank Rate will help to support business and consumer confidence at a difficult time, to bolster the cash flows of businesses and households, and to reduce the cost, and to improve the availability, of finance,” the BOE said.
    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

    Not shocking at all. One bullet left till 0 hahahahahahaha....

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    Markets reacting to the WHO's pandemic declaration of covid.

    Dow, NDX and SPY down 4.5%++ as of this wiritng.

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    US Dow 7 % crash triggers trading halt again ,,,

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    #9914
    Gold is sliding.

    Even crypto is in the red.

    Either the people need money or they are finally waking up that owning crypto during a world crisis is almost as good as owning garbage.

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    example pag mas magworsen pa mga crisis ang magiging gold yung farmland

    magiging uso ang preserved food.

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    Trumpey has nothing to show as gains made in his current term has been wiped out...

    The US stock market has now wiped out the entire $11.5 trillion of value it gained since Trump's 216 election victory | Markets Insider

    Soon lay offs will the norm in the coming months...

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    #9917
    Coronavirus: US slashes rates and launches huge stimulus programme - BBC News

    Pouring cheap when there is no business activity

    IThe Fed has cut rates to a target range of 0% to 0.25%, and said it would it begin buying bonds - quantitative easing - a move that pumps money directly into the economy..
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    Last edited by Monseratto; March 16th, 2020 at 07:51 AM.

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    The cuts didn't have the desired effects...

    Stocks plunge as Fed's emergency rate cut fails to calm panic - Reuters

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    Last edited by Monseratto; March 16th, 2020 at 10:17 AM.

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    #9919
    well here we are

    ZERO

    toldyall the Fed's going to zero and QE

    no more interest rate ammo

    unless the Fed goes negative

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    Trading halt again.

    Hindi kinaya ng zero rate.

    Uls, question: ma eengganyo pa ba investors to pour in capital sa eq market kahit nag negative na?

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