Legal ba ang Forced Leave w/out Pay?

**BoyL3** · November 18th, 2008 01:40 PM

hello tsikoteers, ask ko lang sa mga may alam sa labor code, pinapatanong lang nung fren ko dahil may bago kasi iniimplement ang company nila na forced leave w/o pay sa kanila na employees and marami ang apektado... iniimplement kasi ang forced leave sa mga non performers sa metrics sa kanilang callcenter, ibig sabihin pag di sila nagmeet sa performance metrics, pahinga muna sila pero walang bayad at pwede na bumalik sa work kung may bagong client, magpapasko pa naman kawawa ang mga taong na mawawalan ng trabaho.

**tidus1203** · November 18th, 2008 01:52 PM

Pwede ata yun because kung downscaling ang rason ng kumpanya I think pwede silang mag force leave, buti na nga yun kaysa lay-off para at least kung kailangan ka ulit pwede kang tawagin ulit. Pero I think better ask someone knowledgable about labor laws.

**russpogi** · November 18th, 2008 01:54 PM

I am not really sure but maybe this may help:
http://www.chanrobles.com/implementi...eliminary.html

**jedi** · November 18th, 2008 02:12 PM

regular employees ba sila? if Yes... hindi dapat ganun... kung madami sila... they should consult a labor lawyer for them to be aware of their rights... kung hahayaan nila yung forced leave.... baka sa susunod forced resignation na kasunod.

imho its an unfair labor practice... lalo na kung ngayong december tatapat yung leave nila... at walang pay... it means pati yung sa christmas, new year and rizal day... hindi sila mababayaran?

sa call center industry, with so many benefits... mararamdaman lang na agrabyado na pag dumadating yung mga ganitong situation...

that is one of the reason kung bakit maraming manggagawang pinoy ang nagrarally because of those bad practices made by their employers... sila mababa na sweldo naaagrabyado pa.

its either iforce na lang ng employer na magresign yung mga tao at icompensate at bayaran kung ano man ang dapat bayaran lalo na sa mga regular employees... or wag nila ituloy ang forced leave.

**BoyL3** · November 18th, 2008 02:32 PM

regular employees naman sila sir, iniisip nga nila na isang paraan lang daw yun para magresign na lang sila, iwas separation pay nun ang employer.

**jedi** · November 18th, 2008 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by BoyL3

regular employees naman sila sir, iniisip nga nila na isang paraan lang daw yun para magresign na lang sila, iwas separation pay nun ang employer.

wag sila pumayag... kung tanggap na nila sa sarili nila na magreresign sila... dapat hayaan nila company na tanggalin sila ang give them separation pay... kung hindi,... magreklamo na sila sa labor..

**BoyL3** · November 18th, 2008 03:29 PM

oo nga sir eh, kaso wala na daw sila interest kasi mapupunta din sa wala, kasi nung na acquire ang company nila ng isang bpo company dito sa atin, kahit na absorb sila ng bagong company walang binigay ang dating employer kahit ano, samantalang yung janitorial services nila ganun din nangyari, inacquire ng ibang company at inabsorb, meron silang natanggap na pay dun sa dating employer

**1D4LV** · November 18th, 2008 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by BoyL3

oo nga sir eh, kaso wala na daw sila interest kasi mapupunta din sa wala, kasi nung na acquire ang company nila ng isang bpo company dito sa atin, kahit na absorb sila ng bagong company walang binigay ang dating employer kahit ano, samantalang yung janitorial services nila ganun din nangyari, inacquire ng ibang company at inabsorb, meron silang natanggap na pay dun sa dating employer

imho, coming from a business owner with lots of experience in operations including HR, forced leave without pay is illegal. the owner of the company has two options: to terminate with separation pay if the business is losing or to enforce a forced leave, but with pay. the second option decreases costs of operations but in other way like consumption of electricity, etc.

i would suggest going to a labor arbiter in this, kung ano sabihin nila, yun na yun.

**ab_initio** · December 20th, 2008 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by BoyL3

oo nga sir eh, kaso wala na daw sila interest kasi mapupunta din sa wala, kasi nung na acquire ang company nila ng isang bpo company dito sa atin, kahit na absorb sila ng bagong company walang binigay ang dating employer kahit ano, samantalang yung janitorial services nila ganun din nangyari, inacquire ng ibang company at inabsorb, meron silang natanggap na pay dun sa dating employer

baka hindi po clear ang facts. meron kasing instance in the life of a company wherein the entire enterprise is acquired by another co, meaning included and workforce. the new management becomes the employer. kasi kung di sila kukunin ng bagong management, separation pay must be paid due to closure of the enterprise by the selling co.

**ab_initio** · December 20th, 2008 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by BoyL3

regular employees naman sila sir, iniisip nga nila na isang paraan lang daw yun para magresign na lang sila, iwas separation pay nun ang employer.

if an employer creates an environment in the workplace which makes it too difficult for employees to endure and ee is left with no option but to resign, that is constructive dismissal, hence, illegal.