Help: CAP Educational Plan

[uls]

I rest my case.

Well I'm happy that it makes you feel like a big man, going around like an Internet tough guy and forcing yourself on these serious topics. Its becoming apparent that you spend an amazing amount of time posting numerous worthless messages online (9000+ posts LOL) rather than going out and talking to real people. Wala sigurong pumapansin sayo.

I just don't know if you realize that its very obvious na KSP ka lang. Its obvious that you are the one trampled all over in real life and so you have to come online and act hard na puros pa-cool and pa-cute ka lang.

I trample I destroy yeah right LOL.

What you don't realize is, in this topic, saling pusa ka lang dude. Others here are trying to get help and I am trying to provide it. I am even doing YOU a favor by minding you and talking to you.

Anyway go on Uls. Either with your life or your comments I couldn't care less. Basta I am here helping and you are here, well, providing nothing more than worthless space.

By the way - yes. Cap invested in Fil-Estate. So what? Fil-Estate at the time had shown tremendous promise in providing returns on investment that would have helped CAP come up with the money to keep paying tuition fees. CAP is not the only company that invested in Fil-Estate, you know. Many people were at the time. It had shown a lot of promise and was the best investment on the table in order for CAP to expand its finances.

In your narrow-minded conclusion you have assumed immediately that just because some people on the board of CAP and Fil-Estate are the same people that there is automatically some sort of foul play? That's business, Uls. It is a common practice anywhere and everywhere in the world.

Like I said, it happened before the financial crisis. When the crisis came, everything fell. Not just CAP and Fil-Estate. It may have been an unlucky turn of events but in NO WAY did CAP intend for it to happen.

But yes it did happen and now CAP understands its responsibility to its planholders. And so it is paying them back. Can you understand that? Its quite simple really.

Anyway this will be my last response to you Uls. There are more important people here to pay attention to. Good luck with your life. All it takes is for you to change your attitude and people will start becoming your friends and will start paying attention to you. I will hope and pray for that, okay?

LOL.

Farewell, Uls.

haha

ok

good luck to you PR woman

yes that's business

so is Enron, Worldcom, Tyco

[maria ann]

Cause I hate PR people who create spin that's why!

How sure are you that it is CAP creating the spin?

Is it not possible that CAP was the victim of a spin created by politicians involved in the pre-need collapse? Is it not possible that CAP is just defending itself from the effects of the spin?

I am encouraging you to do some research on the topic. Here, go to www.captruth.webs.com to read up on what happened. Then you tell me - what's the spin?

Anyway I appreciate your honest answers. THank you for the fair posts.

[maria ann]

By the way I am not a paid PR person - to those of you who might think I am.

I am here helping out of my own free will to do so.

[uls]

so is Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros.

so is Legacy plans, Pacific plans, Platinum plans...

that's business

[uls]

By the way I am not a paid PR person - to those of you who might think I am.

I am here helping out of my own free will to do so.

not paid?

shareholder, anak ng shareholder, wife ng shareholder

[maria ann]

so is Bear Stearns, Lehman Bros.

so is Legacy plans, Pacific plans, Platinum plans...

that's business

OK I will indulge you one more time.

Look, Uls. To people that know what happened in the fall of the Pre-Need Industry, what you are saying holds no weight.

Yes that is the reality... sometimes businesses fall. There is a risk factor involved when starting and operating a business. This is commonly known. But there is one main difference between all these other businesses you mentioned and CAP.

CAP is still open. And more importantly, CAP is paying its planholders back. They are the ONLY company in the pre-need collapse that is doing so. So what is your point?

All the others - closed, bankrupt, and/or abandoning their customers - oh and Legacy... that wasn't a business, THAT was a scam. Totally different.

And by the way I am a CAP EMPLOYEE - but I am not an official CAP representative paid to talk to you online. I do this out of my own FREE WILL because I am here and I know the ins and outs of whats happening.

Looks like I struck a nerve...

[Capt.Bob]

hello maria ann...
may i please ask what will happen to the CAP policy i paid for my 2 kids? will it still have value when they enter college or shall i opt to claim for reimbursement?
i hope you can give me an honest advice, not as a CAP employee, but as if you are in my shoes TIA

[uls]

hahahaha

ayan, umamin din -- CAP employee pala

tapos sasabihin not paid

yeah sure sasabihin niya she's not exactly paid to post sa mga forums to defend CAP

pero paid parin ng CAP

ang malasakit niya nasa company na nagbabayad ng sweldo niya

tapos pinalalabas niya na napaka-selfless and noble niya... helping others out of the goodness of her heart, yun pala empleyado lang ng CAP

own free will? yeah right

BTW, struck what nerve?

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the only people who would defend CAP are those who are either working for CAP or who own CAP

[tidus1203]

Yeah people who are not associated with CAP would not waste their time defending it with so much energy!

Just buy Ford Motor Co. or Apple or even Cisco stocks, I assure you much better investment than CAP-siao...

[tidus1203]

hello maria ann...
may i please ask what will happen to the CAP policy i paid for my 2 kids? will it still have value when they enter college or shall i opt to claim for reimbursement?
i hope you can give me an honest advice, not as a CAP employee, but as if you are in my shoes TIA

Of course she will tell you to stay, she makes a living from that comnpany... My independent advice is to get out just to be on the safe side...

[maria ann]

hello maria ann...
may i please ask what will happen to the CAP policy i paid for my 2 kids? will it still have value when they enter college or shall i opt to claim for reimbursement?
i hope you can give me an honest advice, not as a CAP employee, but as if you are in my shoes TIA

Good afternoon Captain Bob.

I strongly suggest that you claim for reimbursement po.

Please believe me that I try to put myself in the shoes of everybody affected by this. Its a shame that the collapse of the Pre-Need Industry affected so many people but the good news is that CAP is taking claims for reimbursement to those with the proper requirements - the ONLY Pre-Need company doing so.

To this date CAP has already paid over 2 BILLION PESOS in reimbursements to its planholders and would like to help assist you in claiming your share of reimbursements.

Have you fully paid up for your CAP Pre-Need policy? Or did you stop paying at some point?

If you are fully paid for your plan, sir - you may go to the nearest CAP building to you that is taking claims for reimbursement. Click on this link for a list of buildings that take in claims for reimbursement as well as a list of people who have checks to be claimed:

http://cap.com.ph/education/Approved...20Schedule.htm

Please bring all the necessary requirements such as all your relevant documents and certificates of full payment as well as proper identification to the nearest claim center near you and file a claim now.

It may take some time because of the backlog of people claiming checks, but the faster you claim reimbursement, the faster we can process your payment.

I hope I have been helpful to you sir. You can reach me here anytime you need additional help.

Thank you for the fair post.

[uls]

Yeah people who are not associated with CAP would not waste their time defending it with so much energy!

Just buy Ford Motor Co. or Apple or even Cisco stocks, I assure you much better investment than CAP-siao...

tama ka tidus

employee nga

kala ko pa naman isang taga PR firm

come to think of it, CAP doesnt have money to hire a PR firm hahahaha

tapos di daw siya paid

so inisip ko CAP stakeholder

yun pala employee lang

[maria ann]

hahahaha

ayan, umamin din -- CAP employee pala

tapos sasabihin not paid

yeah sure sasabihin niya she's not exactly paid to post sa mga forums to defend CAP

pero paid parin ng CAP

ang malasakit niya nasa company na nagbabayad ng sweldo niya

tapos pinalalabas niya na napaka-selfless and noble niya... helping others out of the goodness of her heart, yun pala empleyado lang ng CAP

own free will? yeah right

BTW, struck what nerve?

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the only people who would defend CAP are those who are either working for CAP or who own CAP

I was not hiding that I was a CAP employee.

And yes it is true I am NOT PAID to write on these forums. I work here so I know how hard people here are trying to give money back to their planholders.

In fact my bosses don't know that I even do this. They are too busy trying to find ways to pay planholders back.

It IS out of the goodness of my own heart that I am helping people here. What do I get by doing this? I'm not compensated for it. And its far easier to just look for another job rather than stick with this company if I thought it was a bad company.

The fact that I want to defend it should indicate to you that I see the effort and integrity in this company's management that they are really working double time to make it up to their planholders.

I just want to help both the good people running the company as well as the people who deserve reimbursement reach each other.

Not that hard to understand.

[desert fox]

My name is Maria Ann. I don't refer to you as Mr. Supporter of Uls do I? LOL.

What the market thinks is important, that is true... but it is also true that the market has been misled. The tiniest bit of research on your part will show you that it is so.

CAP is a victim just as much as the planholders are victims of the poor governance and terrible decisions made by certain politicians during the 90s and up until the early 2000s. What I am trying to do here is this, Tidus:

1) Enlighten people who want to be reimbursed by CAP that CAP is paying people back
2) Enlighten people on the subject of the collapse of the pre-need industry
3) Show people where and how they can file their claims

There is no need for Uls or anybody to come in here and try to trample all over my efforts in providing ASSISTANCE to people. That is what irks me. You tell me, is what I'm doing bad? Hindi naman diba? Actually maganda nga eh. So why waste time in bringing me down? First of all, it won't work. Second of all, don't you want people to be reimbursed kahit papano? THe people deserve it and I'm just trying to forge the path that can get them their money.

Tama na yung mga nag papa-cool jan. This is a serious matter and should be treated with importance. Not this non-chalant trash verbiage that is meant to destroy things.

Thanks sis, nag-email na ako sa anak ko, at sinabi ko na yung address na ibinigay mo sa Imus...

Sabihan kita kung ano mga pangyayari....

nasa anak ko pa yung certificate nya at di ako nawawalan ng pag-asa na makapag-reimburse pa o magamit ang scholarship nya thru CAP.

thanks again.

[maria ann]

tama ka tidus

employee nga

kala ko pa naman isang taga PR firm

come to think of it, CAP doesnt have money to hire a PR firm hahahaha

tapos di daw siya paid

so inisip ko CAP stakeholder

yun pala employee lang

It doesn't matter what you say, Uls and Tidus. You can look at it however you want.

I am here trying to help people and THAT is a good thing. It doesn't matter to me how lowly of a person I am, that I am JUST an employee. I don't need to be a BIGSHOT just to be human enough to try and help those who need it.

CAP's money is going to its planholders through reimbursements. That is the best news that any pre-need planholder from any company can have.

And me, Im in a position to know these things and I just want to help people get their reimbursements. Nothing wrong with that.

So say what you will - its okay. Employee lang ako, so? I work for CAP, so? If CAP was such a bad company I could have chosen to leave and work elsewhere, or I could choose not to do these things to help - but I stayed and am now trying to help.

People would not be loyal to an unscrupulous company - but people would give more than they are expected to when the company they work for shows the level of their integrity to its own employees.

[maria ann]

Thanks sis, nag-email na ako sa anak ko, at sinabi ko na yung address na ibinigay mo sa Imus...

Sabihan kita kung ano mga pangyayari....

nasa anak ko pa yung certificate nya at di ako nawawalan ng pag-asa na makapag-reimburse pa o magamit ang scholarship nya thru CAP.

thanks again.

THank you too po.

Just let me know po if you need further assistance.

Maria Ann

[uls]

nawala ang angas

ayan, malinaw na

there's a CAP employee posting in this thread

[maria ann]

Thanks sis, nag-email na ako sa anak ko, at sinabi ko na yung address na ibinigay mo sa Imus...

Sabihan kita kung ano mga pangyayari....

nasa anak ko pa yung certificate nya at di ako nawawalan ng pag-asa na makapag-reimburse pa o magamit ang scholarship nya thru CAP.

thanks again.

Desert Fox,

I would like to tell you po that I think those who subscribed for a plan in Imus must file a claim yata in the Head Office of CAP. The address there is 126 Amorsolo Street, Legazpi Village, Makati, Metro Manila.

The process takes some time - but at least once it is filed you will be on the way to being reimbursed.

THank you for the patience po.

Maria Ann

[desert fox]

THank you too po.

Just let me know po if you need further assistance.

Maria Ann

dahil sa iyo at sa thread na ito, parang nagkaroon uli ako ng pag-asa kung di man magamit sa pag-aaral ng bata, mabawi man lang yung ibinayad...

alam ko di ito madali, pero matiyaga daw tayong mga pinoy....

[maria ann]

nawala ang angas

ayan, malinaw na

there's a CAP employee posting in this thread

That's right.

A PROUD employee.

And more than just a PROUD employee of a great company... but a GOOD person with the intention of helping people out.

Take a good long look at yourself. Who are you? You are somebody that spends his time getting on people's nerves on an Internet message board LOL. You are a negative effect, with no ability to see beyond your own nose or think out of the box. Pero someway, somehow you still think that you're better than what you are. As if your opinion on things matters more than the opinions of others.

Let me tell you why you spend so much time there typing away angry messages at people who are only trying to be of assistance to others.

You are a non-factor in the world, in the country, and perhaps even the street that you live on. You mentioned somewhere above in an earlier post that you are "a part of the ecosystem here". Yes, maybe here on this forum you are - safe and sound behind a monitor, nothing to worry about but clicking REPLY over and over again and posting the same null-mind notes to my responses.

But in real life you're a sad guy. You're NOT a part of the ACTUAL tangible ecosystem that is Earth. You feel that nobody understands you, so you have to take out your frustrations on a yehey.com forum, one post at a time. Its probably worse that I'm a girl, because I probably represent to you all the successful and beautiful females that have turned you down time and time again over your life. LOL!!!

Kawawa din kayo no?

You and your friend Tidus have accumulated almost 20,000 posts together!!! LOL!!! That's a lot of free time. TIme you could spend living your lives, if only you had lives...

Look, get a job. Start a business. Do something apart from type the letters off of your keyboard. Try and understand the workings of society, of business, and of the world before forming an opinion because that way, maybe better, more intelligent things can come out of you.

Until then - refrain from sticking your nose where it doesn't belong, kasi napapahiya lang kayo eh. Tapos magagalit kayo, naaangasan kayo sa akin - but I'm just stating facts and trying to help people diba?

In other words, get a life muna before you pretend that you're better than others... kasi if you notice, people like Desert Fox have been HELPED by me. I am trying to make this a better, happier place in my own little way. That is my inspiration to keep coming back here and post - to be of assistance to those who need help.

But you? LOL. Whats your excuse?