gmelina or mahogany farming anyone?

**CLAVEL3699** · September 19th, 2013 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by morningbliss

if 15 hectares ang nilease nyo sir bale nasa 135th per year upside ung rental cost ninyo..eh mas matindi na pala sa friend mo 50hectares!?

sabi nila mas maganda mas malaki lupa mo kasi para isang gastusan lang sa equipment at papatabas.

Hakutan isang bagsak lang din.Meron nga dito may mga lupa rent and kanila nasa 200 hectares.

kunti ang mayayaman pero mas madami ang naghihirap.

**lowslowbenz** · September 19th, 2013 05:56 PM

^

CADP = Central Azucarera de Don Pedro

Re: Ugali, ganun ba. Medyo sticky pala ang issue. Hehehe.

**CLAVEL3699** · September 19th, 2013 06:01 PM

regarding sa CADP... hindi sharing nagbibigay sila nang presyo per tons...kung mababa ang bigay nila for that particular day or week talo ka kaya tsambahan din.

**CLAVEL3699** · September 19th, 2013 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by lowslowbenz

^Re: Ugali, ganun ba. Medyo sticky pala ang issue. Hehehe.

Mga tamad ang mga tao dito at marereklamo... pinagyayabang kasi nila na tiga doon si ka rosal yung spokes person nang NPA dati.

**morningbliss** · September 19th, 2013 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

wala na masyado kasi may tanim na sya, wala na masyadong equipment na gagamitin. hindi parepareho.

Kung kailangan mo nang replanting yung iba sinusunog para mas mabilis

salamat sir..
ang laki pala ng savings

**lowslowbenz** · September 19th, 2013 06:18 PM

Re: NPA

Susmaria, ayoko ng ganyan ...

**morningbliss** · September 19th, 2013 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

sabi nila mas maganda mas malaki lupa mo kasi para isang gastusan lang sa equipment at papatabas.

Hakutan isang bagsak lang din.Meron nga dito may mga lupa rent and kanila nasa 200 hectares.

kunti ang mayayaman pero mas madami ang naghihirap.

grabe ah..buti pinapayagan sa CARP ung ganun...
kaya ung mayayaman lalong yumayaman.
malaki kasi ung capital kaya cguro ung iba nating kabayan eh pinaparent..isipin mo pag meron kang 10 hectares ung capital mo nasa 800,000 per year pano na ung gastusin ng pamilya mo at pano pa kung walang steady source of income at pano pa lalo pag may bagyo or flooding....

**morningbliss** · September 19th, 2013 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699

sabi nila mas maganda mas malaki lupa mo kasi para isang gastusan lang sa equipment at papatabas.

Hakutan isang bagsak lang din.Meron nga dito may mga lupa rent and kanila nasa 200 hectares.

kunti ang mayayaman pero mas madami ang naghihirap.

ah ganun ba...
pano po ba ang singilan ng equipment, per hectare po ba? magkano isang hectare? para saan ung mechanization, sa tilling po ba ng lupa or ung pag lalagay ng fertilizer?
salaamt

**morningbliss** · September 19th, 2013 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by morningbliss

keep it coming! hehehe...for sure reresearch ko ung mga links na binibigay mo...
continuous learning eto and inaaral ko na din ung agrofesrty/agriculture in general...sana pala kumuha me ng dual course na agriculutre hahaha!

LSB, now ko lang nabasa ung link na eto...astig! very detailed ung calculations very nice para sa financial planning!
un bang Capitalized Net Income, eh un ung net profit labas na lahat ung expenses?

**lowslowbenz** · September 19th, 2013 06:48 PM

Actually, hindi biro ang capex mo when you start/go into sugarcane farming. Kaya ang iba natin mga kaibigan na medyo kulang ang pondo, sinasangla ang lupa muna sa bangko for added capital. Then strike it on hard work and luck to pay back the debt in the specified time frame. Others secure crop loans from banks over their standing cane.

Kung medyo malakas ang spending mo on other things, its easy to lose focus on the business and go belly up. In our part, we always make sure to return the similar amount spent on the land. How much is left would go to maintenance of farm equipment, and to other misclaneous things needed to run a farm operation. At the end of the day, profits can be decent to live on, but not overly spectacular as others would tend to believe.

On paper, yes the figures are enticing. But in real world operations, its a bit different. Marami na variables coming into play. Remember that a farm landlord is like a father figure to his/her people. Pag may nagkasakit sa isang family, takbo sa landlord. Pag may namatay, takbo kay landlord. Pag kinapos sa budget sa bahay, takbo kay landlord. And so forth and so on. These things involve a lot of money as well. You need people to run the farm, if you lose the loyalty of these people, you might as well stop what you're doing kasi you'll be a dead duck on the water.

Some people may say that Negros is the last bastion of feudalism, but if one looks at it, if the farmers stop their operations, saan pupunta ang mga tao? Mas lalo maging terrible ang sitwasyon. The inutile government for what its worth will just sit back and watch, hands crossed. So kawawa talaga ang mga tao.

We are now fighting against CARP, which from the start is a drum full of worms. I've seen the CARP results in barren haciendas, now owned by banks because the beneficiaries had no money to start with as capital, or spent it all on material things.

Gone are the glory days when life in Negros was "sweet". We are now just trying our best to make an honest buck, for the equivalent sugar that we produce.