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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    may mga makikitid talaga utak..

    tinuturaan ng tama, pilit parin ang gusto niya kahit mali.

    o well it shows how intelligent and mature you are.

    pag may nakakasalubong akong naka halogen reflector lamp tas naka HID, is either tanga o tanga lang naman

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    So tanga pala Philips at Osram.

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    #42
    hindi ba talaga compatible ang philips xtreme power/vision at osram nb sa mga halogen projectors?
    nakita ko ito post ni qaryq
    http://tsikot.com/forums/car-lights-...ml#post2077073

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    So tanga pala Philips at Osram.
    hids made by philips and osram are used for HID projectors.

    they are not made for halogen reflector lamps

    kaya kadalasan sila ang supplier ng mga OEMs sa mga naka projector lamp na sasakyan.

    but there are cars with reflector lamps with HIDs because it was designed for HID talaga.

    pero yun sayo kaya halogen ang ilaw dahil yun reflector lamp mo pang halogen lang. kaya kahit kabitan mo ng philips o osram yan na hid, may glare parin yan


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    #44
    ipa ilaw ang headlight against a wall, madaling makita kug mayroong glare.

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    So tanga pala Philips at Osram.
    Hindi sila tanga, yung hindi marunong gumamit sa tama ang tanga..




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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by romeocharlie View Post
    Hindi sila tanga, yung hindi marunong gumamit sa tama ang tanga..




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    +1 dito I totally agree.. kasi kaya nga may different type ng bulb eh kung lahat yan pwedeng ilagay kung saan saan edi sana wala ng tinatawag na halogen or hid bulb. If you want to use HID better have it retrofitted. Madaming plug n play at madami ding sablay na ganyan. Quality comes at a price and Be a responsible driver. Wag ng ipilit ang mali

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    W

    hids made by philips and osram are used for HID projectors.
    Bro, baka gusto mong isalpak sa loob ng projector ang 85815 o 85816 ng Philips.

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by romeocharlie View Post
    Hindi sila tanga, yung hindi marunong gumamit sa tama ang tanga..
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    Baligtarin natin ang logic, bro. Assuming parang ikaw na inteligente lahat ang consumers. So walang bibili. Sino ang tanga na gumawa ng ilaw para langawin?

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by meledson View Post
    ipa ilaw ang headlight against a wall, madaling makita kug mayroong glare.
    Tama bro, at least tinitest para malaman ang pagkakaiba. Hindi yung sabi ni ganito ..

    Anyway, BTT ang tanong ni TS kung masusunog ang reflector pag naka HID. So far, di pa naman nasusunod yung reflector ng aking D-max.

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    #50
    ^^^ post some pics para matapos ang usapan

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    #51
    Ok, back na sa original topic. Ang haba ng side comments sa topic na ito hehehe

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    dun sa mga nag i-insist na ok pa rin gumamit nang HID bulb sa non projector housing. try to read here.HiDplanet : The Official Automotive Lighting Forum dami nyong matutunan dito about HID. how it works, how to properly aim, how to DIY etc. this also the official forum of some of the best retrofitters in the world like TRS( the retrofit source), lightwerkz and retrofitlab..

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    #53
    Paki-intindi nalang ang sinabi ni c3 tsaka ni romeocharlie. Doon palang kita na ang sagot.

    To answer the question:

    Most reflector type headlamp assembly AY HINDI NAKA-DESIGN PARA SALPAKAN NG HID. Kaya nga may tinatawag tayong projector retrofitting ay para makagamit tayo ng HID para sa mga ordinary nating headlamp assembly. Ang mga projector ay may dalawang klase, isang bolt-on at isang OEM spec. Kadalasan sa mga bolt-on, mura nga, pero hindi maganda ang quality. Ang mga OEM spec naman na projectors, kabaligtaran ng bolt-on. Mahal ipaggawa, mahal ang mga piyesa, pero yun output niya ay sigurado naman sobrang ganda.

    To confused shoes:
    Kahit na sabihin mong hindi ka nasisilawan, eh ikaw yun. Paano yun mga makakasalamuha mo sa kalsada? Ikaw lang yun kuntento pero nakakaperwisyo ka naman sa iba? Parang unfair di ba? Partida, tinted ng dark ang harap ng sasakyan mo kung di ako nagkakamali. Sabi mo naka D-Max ka. Mataas na sasakyan yan tapos gumamit ka ng HID at hindi naka retrofit? Baka mamaya bigla ka nalang batuhin ng makakasalubong mo dahil sa ilaw mong sobrang nakakasilaw. Tsaka kahit yun mga telescopic HID na sinasabi, di rin naman effective mga yan. At pakibasa yun unang statement ko dito. Siguro naman naiintindihan mo yan. Ang headlamp assembly ng mga sinaunang D-Max ay HINDI DESIGNED PARA SA HID USE. Ngayon kung sinasabi mo na ang Civic FD 2.0 o ang Forester eh hindi naka-projector pero naka HID sila, eh ang headlamp assembly nila ay DESIGNED FOR HID USE. Ang headlamp assembly ng 1.8s at ng 2.0s, though identical sa itsura, eh yun latter lang ang designed para sa HID. So yan ang sinasabi namin dito sa iyo na sana maintindihan mo.

    Di ka namin pinagbabawalan gumamit ng HID. Tinuturan ka lang namin ng tamang paggamit nito para di ka makaperwisyo sa ibang motorista.

    And oh, there's no such thing as 85815 o 85816 sa official website ng Philips headlights catalog. So yang sinasabi mong headlight conversion ay FAKE. Tingin tingin din sa official website ng Philips pag may time para malaman mo kung ano ang HID bulbs nila.

    I stand corrected, it's 85122 pala yun HID na ginagamit ko na gawa ng Philips.

    To TS:
    Sana tigilan mo na paggamit ng HID dyan sa kotse mo ngayon. Mag-research ka muna ng proper usage of HID sa isang sasakyan, or else baka ma-goon squad ka dito.

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    Siguro naman pre kung may problema yan di hindi na sana nagbenta ang OSRAM at Philips ng HID conversion kits. Take note, both are top auto lamp manufacturers and dalawang yan and if you don't know, both are Europeans. Maka gusto mong i-extend farther ang iyong pagbabasa.
    Kung magbabasa ka lang din bro. Hindi nagrebase ang philips at osram ng h1,h4,h11 o kahit ano pa mang panghalogen headlights na HID. Ang meron lang sila is d2s, d1s, d3s and the likes. Malamang sa malamang kung philips or osram yang nakainstall sayo, fake yan.

    Ayaw makinig, talagang gusto ipilit na tama siya. Nasisira high beam namin sainyong mga pa-porma eh.

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    #55
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post

    Well kung illegal sa ibang bansa, nasa Pilipinas naman siguro tayo.
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    Pag mali mali. Lalong huwag mong ipagpilitang pupuwede ang mali sa bansa natin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    Well kung illegal sa ibang bansa, nasa Pilipinas naman siguro tayo.
    Tsk!

    Kaya hindi talaga uma-asenso ang Pilipinas in general.

    It's because of smart-a$$ comments like this.

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    #57
    We're talking about two different things. Let me just cover them briefly.

    1. Does Philips manufacture HID conversion kits for halogen headlamps? The answer is YES.
    2. Is it advisable to use HID on road cars with halogen OEM headlamps? The answer is, IT DEPENDS. If it's a genuine Philips bulb (my example in this case) with an unmodified mount, it may pass as they're already designed to approximate the light dispersion from a halogen bulb it is replacing. But if it's a cheap, China copy, I would definitely advice against using it.

    Here's the specific Philips website page that lists all HID Conversion Kits. Yes, it has all the popular mounts such as 9005, 9006, H4, H7, H11, etc.

    Click here: Philips Lighting Australia - Xenon HID conversion kit - Philips and select the Product Listings tab.

    Remember, if you can't afford the real thing, forget it!
    Last edited by oj88; September 6th, 2013 at 10:36 PM.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by falken View Post
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    Pag mali mali. Lalong huwag mong ipagpilitang pupuwede ang mali sa bansa natin.
    Paano mo nalaman na ikaw ang tama?

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    #59
    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    We're talking about two different things. Let me just cover them briefly.

    1. Does Philips manufacture HID conversion kits for halogen headlamps? The answer is YES.
    2. Is it advisable to use HID on road cars with halogen OEM headlamps? The answer is, IT DEPENDS. If it's a genuine Philips bulb (my example in this case) with an unmodified mount, it may pass as they're already designed to approximate the light dispersion from a halogen bulb it is replacing. But if it's a cheap, China copy, I would definitely advice against using it.

    Here's the specific Philips website page that lists all HID Conversion Kits. Yes, it has all the popular mounts such as 9005, 9006, H4, H7, H11, etc.

    Click here: Philips Lighting Australia - Xenon HID conversion kit - Philips and select the Product Listings tab.

    Remember, if you can't afford the real thing, forget it!
    Agree. Baka naman sabihing sa Australia lang meron yan, bro. Hehe.

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    #60
    Quote Originally Posted by beni23 View Post
    Kung magbabasa ka lang din bro. Hindi nagrebase ang philips at osram ng h1,h4,h11 o kahit ano pa mang panghalogen headlights na HID. Ang meron lang sila is d2s, d1s, d3s and the likes.
    #Retzing
    Outdated ka rin pala, bro. Check mo 858 Series ng Philips.

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