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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    At meron pang isang sumbungero.

    Nang pinatunayan ni sir Gary ang sinasabi ko, di mo naman ngayon matanggap.

    Anyway pare, Sabado ngayon siguro wala ka naman pasok so you have all the time to research and write something productive like sir Gary. Paninilwalaan pa kita. Makakatulong pa ka pa kay TS para magdecide kung ano ang gagawin. Of course, I respect sir Gary, because he is right.

    Siguro naman pag sinabi kong tama si sir Gary at agree ka rin sa kanya, so ano pang issue. If A=C, and B=C, then A=B. Tama?
    Di ako nagsusumbong. Tinatawag ko si GH para ipasara na ang thread na ito dahil sobrang na-hijack na.

    Ngayon, uulitin ko sa iyo, nagawa ko na yang research na yan. FYI, baka bago ka pa nagpalagay ng glaring HID mo, eh ako, matagal na naka-HID. 4 na taon na kong tapos dyan sa research mo kaya nga ako nagpalagay ng HID. Pero di ko kagaya mo na irresponsible sa paggamit ng HID dahil gumastos ako para magparetrofit. Bakit? Gusto ko maliwanag ilaw ko na hindi ko kelangan mambulang ng mga makakasalubong ko. Kahit na sabihin natin may mga conversion kits na nandyan, di pa rin ako magpapalagay niyan dahil sa GLARE. Ayaw kong makabulag ng tao para sa pansarili kong kagustuhan. Di ako kagaya mo brad.

    Di ko na sasabihin yun mga nalaman ko dahil 4 years ago ko na napost dito ang mga yan at ang thread na yun ay nakabaon na dito sa tsikot.

    Nakikiusap ako sa mga mods, paki-lock na ang thread na ito.

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    #122
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    Kasi marami sa atin parang mga kabayo. May piring ang mata. Derecho lang ang tingin. Akala nila walang ibang daan.
    Boss, I've been around long enough to know what is right and what is wrong. Dont dare lecture an old dog new tricks, because at the end of the day baka mapahiya ka lang.

    If you want your HID's, fine .... that is your right, this is a free country. I just hope and pray the next trigger happy guy na masilaw ng mga HID's mo would have the self control not to turn back, follow you, and put a bullet thru your head.

    No, hindi kita tinatakot. Yes it happened.

    Goodluck.
    Last edited by lowslowbenz; September 10th, 2013 at 11:57 AM.

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    #123
    common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power.

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    #124
    Quote Originally Posted by 170kphlang View Post
    common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power.
    i agree!!!

    also

    common sense is a curse, you have to deal all your life to people who don't have it

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    #125
    i've lurking around sa HID discussion for a long time already,i guess tama kayo mag iipon na lang ako para makapagkabit ng entry level ng HID ni garyq or sa redline.muntik na akong magpakabit ng plug n play this week,kase lam nyo naman nowadays how cheap ang HID kits.may nag offer sa akin ng 3,2k lang hi and low na,aside from the glare ,ayoko din masunog yung reflectors ng headlights ko at ang pinaka importante...ayokong may makaaway sa kalye,tiis tiis na lang muna sa halogen bulbs for now.
    medyo OT mga boss...magkano kaya entry level ng retrofitting?nahihiya kase ako mag inquire kay gary,wala pa akong budget.
    yung glare shield kaya effective yun?
    thanks mga boss!

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    #126
    ^
    I think around 10-11k ang level 1 retrofitting.

    Glare shield? Nah, wag na magsayang ng pera dyan. Wala din naman nagagawa masyado yan.

    Baka naman madilim tint mo sa harap kaya ka nalalabuan kahit halogen lang ilaw mo? Bakit mo try magpalit ng bulbs? Like palitan mo ng Osram Nightbreaker or Philips XV bulbs?

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    #127
    Kakapost lang ni redline may discount daw sila sa stage 1. Search mo na lang FB nila.


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    #128
    Ok na mga boss,naka pag PM na ako kay redline,tama yung sabing mong price sir,ipon ipon muna
    *testament 11 wala naman sir,my halogen works fine naman,na engganyo lang ako sa offer nung autoshop na napuntahan ko,i guess ipon mode muna para sa stage 1

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    #129
    Mga sir bago lang po kasi ako d2 maki singit nalang po ng tanong ok lang ba 4 na HID ung 2 sa fog L diba na kaka dickarga un reply po kayo SALAMAT

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriziann12 View Post
    Mga sir bago lang po kasi ako d2 maki singit nalang po ng tanong ok lang ba 4 na HID ung 2 sa fog L diba na kaka dickarga un reply po kayo SALAMAT
    read this before upgrading your lighting system.

    Upgrading Your Lighting System | HID Retrofit

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    #131
    summarize ko lang kung tama pagkaintindi ko.

    Halogen bulb + reflector = ok
    HID Bulb + reflector = go kill yourself
    HID Bulb + retrofit = Go go go

    Dito ako nalilito,

    Halogen bulb + halogen projector = ok
    HID Bulb + halogen projector = ok?

    I have considered a retrofit by Gary, but I cannot afford the down time.

    Thanks.

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    #132
    ^^ basta projectors ok lang magpalit ng bulbs to hid. like on my sorento naka oem projectors yun na dati halogen ang bulb. pinalitan ko ng hid ang bulb ok lang naman, may cut-off at walang glare. but to be sure ibaba mo ng konti ang aim para walang hassle.

    kung naka-oem projectors pa ang car mo at wala ka time palagay ng hid, pwede naman hanap ka ng bulbs na mas malakas ang output (but same wattage) sa oem bulbs. one type i recommend is Raybrig 4300K bulbs that give 110 watts output for the same 55 watts rating. di iinit ang lens kasi same lang naman ang wattage pero almost like hid ang light. another brand is Philips extreme vision. just avoid getting "white" or "blue" bulbs that are higher than 4300K light temp, like yung mga 6000K. maganda tignan pero useless naman sa ulan.
    Last edited by yebo; January 19th, 2015 at 04:27 PM.

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    #133
    Natanong ko na yan kay Gary. Depende daw sa halogen projector kung kaya magbigay ng tamang output for HID.

    Also, from automotive lighting forums abroad and what gary explained earlier in the thread, di pa rin siya optimal since at the end of the day, iba ang pag-emit ng ilaw ng halogen sa HID bulb which is why they still use slightly different projectors. Kumbaga, compromised pa rin ang output quality ng HID on halogen projectors vs a real retrofit, but it's much better than HID on halogen projectors in terms of glare.

    This guy asked the exact same question:
    HID Projector vs. Halogen Projector differences?

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    Last edited by jut703; January 19th, 2015 at 08:17 PM.

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    #134
    In short, using PnP HID with halogen projectors will not produce the optimum results compared to a full retrofit. Depending on the manufacturer, some will work fine with PnP HID. Hit or Miss kung baga.

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    #135
    Quote Originally Posted by fireice2 View Post
    In short, using PnP HID with halogen projectors will not produce the optimum results compared to a full retrofit. Depending on the manufacturer, some will work fine with PnP HID. Hit or Miss kung baga.
    Yup, it's a hit or miss. Though.. truth be told, it's usually a hit. Remember to go for 4300K bulbs.

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    #136
    Had a PnP kit installed on my Montero Glx. temporarily installed 6000k while waiting for the 4300k bulbs to arrive. Nagkamali yung staff sa shop pag label ng h11 compatible kit. Though its significantly brighter than stock halogen, I can already see it would be useless in the rain. lol.

    Advantage pag kaibigan may-ari ng shop libre pa buffet dinner while install yung kit. hehehe

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    #137
    there are some cars na kahit halogen reflector, they can take hids. may konting konting glare padin pero hindi lagpas sa cut off.

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