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    This perhaps is the common dilemma for cash buyers.

    If you have the money to pay for a vehicle in cash, unfortunately, you can't get in line to get the vehicle that you want since you will pay in cash - Is it wise to invest the money you have to recoup the interest (maybe 6-9%) I will pay annually to dealers?

    Or maybe the better question to ask is - Where could we invest, if our money diminishes every month due to monthly amortization?

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    you can try UITFs.. PNB is offering it..

    example computation if you had 100T and invested it last 2010..


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    ganito...

    like he has 1M in cash to buy a car but he can only get the car he wants if he buys thru installment

    so he wants to invest that 1M to earn what he's losing in interest payment

    the money he's investing is being used to pay monthly installment so he's taking out money every month

    what kind of investment can earn back the interest while the capital is being reduced every month?
    Last edited by uls; October 18th, 2013 at 01:52 PM.

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    how about investing in something that can earn the monthly car payments

    like buy a condo and rent it out so the rental income goes to paying the monthly car payments

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    i would prefer paying it by cash.
    depreciation + interests would make you at a losing end, which you need to invest it in an investment channel that is more than that.
    may maintenance costs pa, gasoline and parking costs.

    this way, wala ka ng iniisip.

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    sinasabi yata nya yung scheme nang mga SA ngayon na pag cash buyer ka eh hindi ni e entertain.. lalo na pag bago yung model.. gusto nila in house financing bago ka mabigyan nang unit..

    in order to get your money back.. eh kailangan you have twice the amount.. yung una for the car then yung second for investment.. so kailangan yung kikitain nung investment mo mas malaki don sa in house interest na i charge nung dealer..

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    You do know it's unethical for dealers to favor installment plans over cash right? That's why Toyota Philippines' Chairman and CEO once scolded Toyota dealerships for abusing T86 buyers before. Truth be told, it's better nga for them to just accept cash straight-out as this adds into their liquidity pile. But they're facing the same problem as yours -- where do I invest the cash?

    Tama si uls, you go for income-generating investments.

    As for that UITF, that's actually a rather poor performance. 45% in 3 years means around 13% compounded annual performance. The US' S&P 500 performance within a similar time frame is 48.75% (Oct 15, 2010 - Oct 17, 2013). And to think the US is in a slowdown and investors looked at the Philippines as a shining light.

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    in short -- if the money you're investing is the same money you're using to pay the car there is no investment that can earn back the interest coz your capital is being eroded every month

    you need capital that stays invested

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    ok na yang 45% in 3 years.. dito sa pinas ha.. where else can u invest your money na medyo hindi high risk...

    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    You do know it's unethical for dealers to favor installment plans over cash right? That's why Toyota Philippines' Chairman and CEO once scolded Toyota dealerships for abusing T86 buyers before. Truth be told, it's better nga for them to just accept cash straight-out as this adds into their liquidity pile. But they're facing the same problem as yours -- where do I invest the cash?

    Tama si uls, you go for income-generating investments.

    As for that UITF, that's actually a rather poor performance. 45% in 3 years means around 13% compounded annual performance. The US' S&P 500 performance within a similar time frame is 48.75% (Oct 15, 2010 - Oct 17, 2013). And to think the US is in a slowdown and investors looked at the Philippines as a shining light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    in short -- if the money you're investing is the same money you're using to pay the car there is no investment that can earn back the interest coz your capital is being eroded every month

    you need capital that stays invested
    lending 10% 1M = 100k/mo, you can avail any car you want, 1M still intact after the terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marjako27 View Post
    lending 10% 1M = 100k/mo, you can avail any car you want, 1M still intact after the terms.
    that is if you can find someone willing to borrow 1M at 10% interest per month

    anyone willing to pay that much is absolutely desperate

    pag naglaho yung tao kiss 1M goodbye
    Last edited by uls; October 18th, 2013 at 03:58 PM.

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    madame sir, sa 20k per person, saglit lng ma ubos yun 1M

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    Quote Originally Posted by marjako27 View Post
    lending 10% 1M = 100k/mo, you can avail any car you want, 1M still intact after the terms.
    If someone is willing to pay me 10%/mo. interest for 1M, I'll be steering clear of him.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by marjako27 View Post
    madame sir, sa 20k per person, saglit lng ma ubos yun 1M

    yung lending sa ka-officemate?

    yung hawak mo ATM nila?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    that is if you can find someone willing to borrow 1M at 10% interest per month

    anyone willing to pay that much is absolutely desperate

    pag naglaho yung tao kiss 1M goodbye
    that is why, hindi mo sya ibibigay sa isang tao lng.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marjako27 View Post
    that is why, hindi mo sya ibibigay sa isang tao lng.
    Dadami lang ang hahabulin mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marjako27 View Post
    that is why, hindi mo sya ibibigay sa isang tao lng.

    yan ang dating ng post mo dude

    lending 10% 1M = 100k/mo, you can avail any car you want, 1M still intact after the terms.

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    20% DP payable in 5 years? taas ng interest nun plus insurance kung kaya mong mag 50%DP payable in 2 or 3 years hindi mo mararamdaman ang ineterest. Cash ka na lang

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    Cash na lang para walang intindihin monthly.

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    One option I can think of among the legal options is stock investing in a single penny stock with a potential of growing 100% or more but this will mean you will have to hold your purchase until your investment has atleast doubled. I believe I need not mention that this is a very risky investment medium.

    - atm loaning is technically illegal if you are not paying proper income and withholding tax, aside from this it will also require a lot of time and effort on the part of ts. risk is also high for delinquent payors
    - mutual funds or uitfs are too low earnings for the requirement and and would require fully invested amounts to realize

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