Lets talk about gas!

[Chikselog]

Sir, BAWAL po ang text/SMS speak/format dito sa tsikot.com.

Re your querry i think wala namang masisira based on my expirience.

oh so sorry! di pala pwede yon..BTW light-footed po pa rin bang maicoconsider ang shifting between 1750-2500 rpm?

[s_quilicot]

oh so sorry! di pala pwede yon..BTW light-footed po pa rin bang maicoconsider ang shifting between 1750-2500 rpm?

Ewan. pag light footed driving mode ako (depende sa mood) i let the tranny shift on or before 2000 RPM sa 1.8 altis namin.

[Chikselog]

Since we acquired a gasoline powered car, Lagi shell V-power na pinapakarga namin. Iba kasi ang hatak and ang FC and yung driving style namin is kakaiba rin.

paano pong 'kakaiba'? ..i really have to learn a lot about driving styles though i'm not a speedy driver..light footed lang siguro akong macoconsider..i don't over rev and i shift between 1750-2500rpm (depends on the road conditions e.g. overtaking if necessary, slight or not uphill etc.)
BTW 2008 vios 1.3e M/T po dina-drive ko

[s_quilicot]

paano pong 'kakaiba'? ..i really have to learn a lot about driving styles though i'm not a speedy driver..light footed lang siguro akong macoconsider..i don't over rev and i shift between 1750-2500rpm (depends on the road conditions e.g. overtaking if necessary, slight or not uphill etc.)
BTW 2008 vios 1.3e M/T po dina-drive ko

Lagi kasi kaming nagmamadali

I think your 1.3 vios has a good FC na. Just dont drive it at high RPMs.

[Chikselog]

Lagi kasi kaming nagmamadali

I think your 1.3 vios has a good FC na. Just dont drive it at high RPMs.

hehe..ngayon ko pa lang nga po itetesting yung km/L nya..ngayon at dito ko lang kasi nabasa yung formula kung paano kunin yun..thanks po

[rensom]

Lahat ba gasoline ngayon ay unleaded? meron pa bang leaded gas na available sa market? Kung sa shell... ang super at premium unleaded is unleaded talaga? yes... its unleaded, pero yung velocity at V-power is leaded na?

[nurse_corrupted]

Unleaded lahat sir from Petron Xtra Unleaded, XCS, Blaze, Shell Premium, V power unleaded po lahat.

Pero bagong uso po ngayon yung unleaded gas below XCS or Shell Premium may halong Ethanol na.

[rensom]

Unleaded lahat sir from Petron Xtra Unleaded, XCS, Blaze, Shell Premium, V power unleaded po lahat.

Pero bagong uso po ngayon yung unleaded gas below XCS or Shell Premium may halong Ethanol na.

Gulo nga ng gas dito sa atin. Yung super at premium.. didikitan pa ng unleaded...super unleaded at premium unleaded... kya xcs, blaze v-power prang di na unleaded tapos tingnan mo yung gas pump walang nakalagay na unleaded tapos tanungin mo ang gasboy o kahit na station manager tanong mo kung unleaded ang V-power ituturo sayo yung super at premium lang ang unleaded nila...hehehe. Di paris sa canada simple lang... sa shell... Bronze, Silver at Gold lang at sa petron... Regular, Premium at Super... Bronze=Regular same RON, Silver=Premium same RON at Gold=Super same RON. Ganoon sila kasimple tapos lahat ng gas pump may sticker na unleaded. kaya yung iba na binasa sa car manual na unleaded....yung Super unleaded at premium unleaded lang ang pinakakarga kz nga yung lang ang may karugtong na unleaded.
Tapos nagkaroon pa ng E10.... Dati E10 is E10 ..yan yong 1st o hanggang 2nd month lang...now punta ka ngayon sasabihin sa yo may E10 na rin ang XCS at V-power... ang gulo.

[Bin Diesel]

tanong lang po... paano yung engine knock na tinatawag? papaano ko malalaman na may ganun na ang makina ko? napansin ko kasi minsan nagpakarga ako ng e10 parang mas pino ang pakiramdam sa makina pero sobrang hina ng hatak compared sa regular unleaded bilis tuloy maubos gas.

[nurse_corrupted]

Sir resom to make it simpler, lahat ng gas dito satin mapa petron, shell, caltex, at minor oil players dalawa lang ang gas na ino-offer either gas/unleaded or diesel. Diesel for diesel engines, gas/unleaded for non-diesel engines. Now yung unleaded satin sa Petron they have Xtra unleaded, XCS, Blaze. Shell has Unleaded, premium, v-power. Caltex has silver and gold. They are all unleaded the difference is the octane rating.

Ang pauso ngayon is E10 dahil may batas na na dapat gawing may halong ethanol ang gas. Nag simula ang major oil players to mix E10 with their less expensive gas which are the Xtra Unleaded, Shell unleaded, at Caltex Silver.

Eventually by 2011 lahat na po ng unleaded may halo ng E10 mapa blaze or V-power.

Yung knock sir maririnig mo talagang "tok" sa engine. Wala pong knock ang makina ninyo, talagang humina lang ang hatak dahil sa mix ng bioethanol.

[rensom]

Kung mga long driving na walang traffic.... gamit ko v-power kz mas matipid, pero kung driving metro manila ... super unleaded lang ako... sayang susunugin lang ang v-power sa traffic.

[n773ph]

Cale,

The grading system for fuels here in the Philippines is different from the US. Ours is similar to what is used in Japan and in Europe.

AFAIK our 97 Octane fuel is equivalent to a 94 in the US.

hi! i'm new here and out of curiosity, i was looking into the octane rating used in Philippines vs US at dito ako napadpad. anyway after some internet researching I think both countries are using the same octane rating system. before that, a post i found at hondaswap.com briefly describes in lay terms the different octane ratings used around world.

" In Europe 98-octane gasoline is common and in Japan even 100-octane is readily available at the pumps, but this octane nomenclature is misleading to Americans as foreign octane ratings are derived entirely differently from our own... So, like every other measurement system it seems that everyone else uses a different scale than we do, but unlike most other instances where we have had the good sense to create different units of measure in this case we all use the same name...
Japan and Europe use a system called RON or Research Octane Number to determine the octane rating of their gasoline, while stateside we use a system called AKI or Anti-Knock Index to determine gasoline's octane rating... Interestingly, to further complicate things it would seem that our own AKI system is actually derived from the average of the RON system and another more complicated system referred to as MON or Motor Octane Number... So, to recap our methodologies for measuring gasoline's octane rating are different, but share some common elements...
So, with the commonality of RON in mind a good rule of thumb is as follows, multiply the foreign RON Octane rating by 0.95 and you will have the US AKI equivalent.

( RON Octane Rating x 0.95 = AKI Octane Rating )
98 RON Octane x 0.95 = 93.1 AKI Octane (US measure)
100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane (US measure)

So, as you can see the 93 or 94 octane fuel we are all paying an arm and a leg for is actually quite comparable to the higher octane fuels found in Europe and Japan. The people whom have to worry about low octane rating are our friends out west in places like California that are subjected to substandard 91 octane.
91 AKI Octane (US measure) = 95.5 RON Octane"

here's the link for reference: http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...ratings-59435/

now, how did i end up thinking that both US and Philippines use the same rating? my answer is its in the law..RA 8749 or the Clean Air Act. Sec 26 says ".. no person shall manufacture, import, sell, supply, offer for sale, dispense, transport or introduce into commerce unleaded premium gasoline fuel which has an anti-knock index (AKI) of not less than 87.5 and Reid vapor pressure of not more than 9 psi." i'm not saying that this is the law that specifically states the use of the AKI system. i presume that since the law has used the AKI system it must be the system currently in use.

[Alpha_One]

now, how did i end up thinking that both US and Philippines use the same rating? my answer is its in the law..RA 8749 or the Clean Air Act. Sec 26 says ".. no person shall manufacture, import, sell, supply, offer for sale, dispense, transport or introduce into commerce unleaded premium gasoline fuel which has an anti-knock index (AKI) of not less than 87.5 and Reid vapor pressure of not more than 9 psi." i'm not saying that this is the law that specifically states the use of the AKI system. i presume that since the law has used the AKI system it must be the system currently in use.

Not necessarily. Gas stations here use RON not the AKI rating system.

AKI of 87.5 is equivalent to around 92-93 RON. Entry level unleaded fuel sold here (assuming the fuel isn't adulterated) is 93 RON, which means our gas stations are still compliant even though they use the RON rating and the law uses AKI.

[supercar10]

WOW! just found out that it says on the gas cover of our CRV "unleaded only" pero we've always used shell premium and caltex gold (which is the equivalent of shell premium i think..).

all this time unleaded pala dapat, should we switch to shell unleaded or caltex silver?

[Taurus]

WOW! just found out that it says on the gas cover of our CRV "unleaded only" pero we've always used shell premium and caltex gold (which is the equivalent of shell premium i think..).

all this time unleaded pala dapat, should we switch to shell unleaded or caltex silver?

Sir, we only got two types here in the Phils. Unleaded and Diesel
Unleaded only has different ocatane ratings. Shell Premium and Caltex Gold are still unleaded but termed as Premium because of higher octane rating, which is normally on 95 RON. Sea Oil has one premium (Extreme) that has 97 RON.

Diesel is of course diesel. Some are synthetic and others are biodiesels.

LPG is also one.

[scharnhorst]

*bumping this thread

Am just curious, the label on Shell gas stations seem to indicate that premium and unleaded both have 93 octane ratings.

I'm guessing nagkaiba lang sila dahil sa additives.

what's the advantage of using premium over unleaded then? (are the additives any good?)

[Jecoism]

^ Same question here. Any reason why we should choose the premium over the unleaded?

[aejhayl17]

something i just googled now

REGULAR VERSUS PREMIUM GASOLINE
Regular Gasoline Has As Much Merit As Premium Gasoline
"Put a tiger in your tank," says a classic advertising tagline. In today's motoring world, what kind of fuel grade will have the power to place a beast in your gas tank?



The answer, according to experts who study fuel efficiency in detail, is both regular and premium gasoline. And it would be a waste of money to favor premium over regular, especially in these times when gasoline prices are high, according to the experts.



Virtually nothing is gained by filling up with a premium or more expensive grade of fuel than the vehicle manufacturer has recommended, the experts say. And many of the same experts explain that drivers may not lose much performance from their cars by using a lower grade of fuel than recommended by the car manufacturer.
There is little difference in energy content of regular versus premium gasoline. They both contain about 111,400 British Thermal Units of energy per gallon.



The price difference, however, between the fuel grades is anywhere from 20 cents to 40 cents, depending on where you live in the United States. The experts' consensus goes against the long-held belief by thousand of drivers who fill up with premium only, or on every third or fourth trip to the pump. The idea is to fill up with premium every so often to clean out the engines or rev up the performance of older engines.
But according to the experts, this practice is like tossing quarters in a wishing well, since most engines are designed to operate on relatively low-octane regular unleaded gasoline.



Octane is defined as a fuel's resistance to knocking. There is no benefit if the octane is higher than what the engine needs. Engine knock occurs when fuel in a combustion chamber ignites before it should. This disrupts the engine's operation. But electronic knock sensors are now common and have nearly eliminated engine disruption.



The American Petroleum Institute says if you find that your car runs fine on a lower grade, there is no sense switching to premium. The Institute recommends following manufacturer's recommendation, but even those manufacturers say that it is more of a suggestion than a command.



source: http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/...s_premium.html

another one: http://www.epinions.com/content_2346164356

[speed unlimited]

Depende sa makina mo at modelo ng sasakyan kung Nissan Exalta STA . May nakalagay sa instrument panel na use only 95 octane meaning premium gasoline here in the philippines.

[scharnhorst]

^^ sa shell kasi, yung premium at super unleaded parehas 93 octane

yung v-power yung 95 octane

hmmm. nung nagdrive kami sa probinsya, ano yung "regular" na gas? walang super unleaded or caltex silver or xtra unleaded, meron lang premium at "regular"