Hybrids and EV

[dr. d]

even as ethanol-ized gasoline is cheaper than pure gasoline,
what happens to the bottomline km/peso, when we input the lower energy content of ethanol, resulting in, i imagine, less km/liter ?

[Vodka]

Majority of the hybrids and EVs that are being sold in the PH are expensive luxury vehicles. The country is missing out on millions on taxes. The EV law should have placed a price cap on the lowered import tax on EV/hybrids to help promote more AFFORDABLE EVs & hybrids.

The PH can do with less multi-million EVs and more sub-P2M EVs.

it's just like the stupid tax breaks on pickup trucks, all over again we never learn

[ice15]

it's just like the stupid tax breaks on pickup trucks, all over again we never learn

before that, we have the tax breaks for AUVs (10 seater SUVs)
remember nung ang daming Expedition? tapos naglabas ng 10 seater na CR-V - hahaha

[ale828]

Majority of the hybrids and EVs that are being sold in the PH are expensive luxury vehicles. The country is missing out on millions on taxes. The EV law should have placed a price cap on the lowered import tax on EV/hybrids to help promote more AFFORDABLE EVs & hybrids.

The PH can do with less multi-million EVs and more sub-P2M EVs.

EV still has VAT. Something the BIR didn't want to remove.
In other countries where EV's has flourished, EV buyers get tax incentives and rebates.
Those countries also have price caps and conditions on the rebates and incentives.

Ev's in other countries are getting big price drops and discount while here there is none.

You can blame the Dealers for the EV high prices. They need to recoup some investments since EV's need and cost very little in the PMS department where most dealers get the bulk of their profits.

[Dr.Kamiya]

before that, we have the tax breaks for AUVs (10 seater SUVs)
remember nung ang daming Expedition? tapos naglabas ng 10 seater na CR-V - hahaha

I hated that time! Cars that should have been 4x4 only ginawang 4x2 to fall under that tax break. I think that tax exemption was also the reason the Pajero FM lasted so long in our market, albeit as a 4x2.

[H1Tman]

In the USA, aside from tax rebates, they get free charging in the first year.

[ice15]

Ev's in other countries are getting big price drops and discount while here there is none.

in some countries... kaya nila bigyan ng incentive si Taylor Swift para sure na sa kanila lang ang concert nya
some of our neighbors did the same for future foreign acts

pero in a country like ours, malabo to ask too much from the gov't... tax free is easy, pero additional rebates will be almost impossible since mas madaming kailangan tulungan ang gov't natin.

buying an EV means zero import taxes... zero taxes from fuel and reduced taxes from yearly registration fees. malaki na masyado ang mawawala sa national treasury natin

[spectr]

You can blame the Dealers for the EV high prices. They need to recoup some investments since EV's need and cost very little in the PMS department where most dealers get the bulk of their profits.

You cannot blame the dealers who might give EV higher SRP margins, very little to earn in the aftersales services beyond some automotive oil/fluids, new certified EV tires and maybe some software updates.

Given that, hard to imagine why any auto dealer want to sell EVs at all. The extra cost of training people to service these EV vehicles plus all the new gadgets required to do it. And all of that potentially are obsolete after the next EV car model is released in four years.

I cannot wait for local insurance rates for EVs to rise.

[spectr]

In the USA, aside from tax rebates, they get free charging in the first year.

The only reason why they can do free charging is the charging stations are run by the car company (example Testa) or are partnered to them (Ford).


Locally we don't have such setups so every EV pays if they use one of the charging stations.

[spectr]

even as ethanol-ized gasoline is cheaper than pure gasoline,
what happens to the bottomline km/peso, when we input the lower energy content of ethanol, resulting in, i imagine, less km/liter ?

That is exactly what happened with Ethanol blended gasolines. We burn more for the same distance.

Clean Air Act my ass.

Just means more money to the oil company coffers.