Biodiesel users info

[Djerms]

My bro is close to finishing his thesis already. Thanks daw po ulit for the usefull info on the effects and significance of biodiesel. The thesis is almost done but keep your posts coming, for the sake of others who wish to use this product. Come to think of it, parang awareness thread na rin ito for those who still do not know of biodiesel.

More power to you guys..for a cleaner diesel!

Garyq,
Thanks sa pagdala ng Biodiesel last Sat. I'll be getting 6 liters by next week again.

Edzz,
4d56 ang engine ng Starex (right?). Same tayo ng engine sa pick-up ko so I guess same ang effects nito sa ride mo. As for me, I really felt a significant improvement sa performance and emission ng ride ko. I tried running without biodiesel, pero parang may kulang (in terms of engine response and emission). So far wala namang bad effects akong napapansin. Just make sure to replace your fuel filter after several days use of this product. After nun, you have nothing to worry about. Nga pala, been using this 2 years or more na yata. Good Luck!

[bardigones]

would PUV's benefit from biodiesel?

i thought this alternative fuel is supposed to be cheaper than regular diesel....

[luckytruck]

guys, just wanted to see how many users of biodiesel on this site.

please reply and put the ascending count beside your name. i know there is a poll feature dito, pero di ko pa nasubukan. technologically challenged kasi ako

andy

[HBOY]

1) HBOY - 1979 300TD

[rsnald]

meron na similar thread about this. si Djerms yata nag start non? needed for his bro's thesis yata... mods paki point na lang.

on the effectives of biodiesel, kwento ko na lang sa inyo yung test na ginawa sa Baguio last week. We went there to attend the forum sponsored by the city goverment of Baguio regarding the implementation of biodiesel usage for government vehicles. After the forum, nag-demo sa parking lot. Test vehicle: an old Kia Sportage Diesel version (imported daw yun from the U.S.). Initial opacity reading was 8.0. Then disconnect yung fuel line, then connect the fuel intake to a preblended Diesel/biodiesel blend w/ 1% biodiesel. After about 7 or 8 revs to 4000 RPM, bumababa yung opacity reading from 8.0 to around 3.0. 0.5 shy of the 2.5 maximum limit.

So as far as reducing pollution, no question about it. Other tests have also shown a slight improvement in power and torque, improvement in fuel lubricity - w/c means less wear and tear for your fuel pump...medyo questionable pa kung may added lubrication sa engine ang biodiesel. kasi in the first place, by the time na dumating na sa engine ang biodiesel/diesel blend, atomized na sya at masusunog agad. So pano malulubricate yung piston? But in any case, there were also studies that shows na less combustion by-products daw naiiwan sa loob ng engine when you use biodiesel. so indirectly, it also keeps your engine cleaner w/c may (emphasis on "may") translate to longer engine life.

[luckytruck]

rsnald, thanks for the info pare. i actually read the other thread na pero medyo time consuming kasi yun kasi full info ang hinihingi, i just want to have a count and of course, if they want to share added info, then cool

i want to start using biodiesel, just wanted to see how many on here use it.

thanks, i hope the mods will keep this thread going.

andy

[Ungas]

Merging threads...

[jackaroo]

On a trooper w 4JX1-T:
I used biodiesel from Sept to Dec 03, then tried using plain "low sulfur" diesel for 2 months. Felt the engine's power decreased, rougher idle too. Went back to biodiesel this March at only 2% blend- really makes a difference in my engine. Works like magic!
(Haven't changed my Oem fuel filter since i started using biodiesel- i've done 10k km and no problems)

[luckytruck]

cool, i am excited na to use biodiesel.

any more info will be aprreciated. and those na hindi pa nagpabilang, si hboy pa lang ang first. anyone else want to include themselves in the list of BD users?

andy

[Djerms]

Been using it for almost 3 years na yata

[luckytruck]

wow, 3 years, obvious talaga na baguhan ako sa diesel. ngayon ko lang nalaman about biodiesel. but, better late than never

andy

[RDL4D56]

OT but hope you guys won't mind. Why the need to replace filter after using several days (how many days yun -- estimate lang po)? Bakit parang yung ibang comments sabi matagal bago dumudumi yung filter nila? Parang conflict eh. Please shed some light. TY!

[rsnald]

*RDL4D56

kung medyo luma na diesel vehicle mo at malaki ang kinakarga mo, say 5-10%, on a regular basis (that's about 1 gallon to 1 1/2 gallon per full tank depending on the size of your tank), kailangan magpalit ng fuel filter kasi nililinis ng biodiesel/cocodiesel yung fuel tank and fuel lines mo. this happened to me recently. I was loaded 1 gallon followed by a weekly shot of 1 liter each. ayun, nagbara yun fuel filter ko. the sign of filter clogging would be indicated by poor acceleration and low topspeed kahit na naka floor na accelerator mo. when I changed my fuel filter, ok na ulit. the residues cleaned out by the biodiesel will easily clog up your filter.
kung pakonti konti lang gamit mo, say, half liter per full tank, it's still advisable to change fuel filters every 5k just to make sure. make sure also that you don't use ordinary rubber hose for your fuel lines, especially if you use a high dosage of biodiesel. biodiesel is a more aggressive solvent compared to pure diesel.

[phillipogi]

saan ba may filling station ng bio diesel dito sa metro manila?

[garyq]

phil: wala pa but I heard from Senbel na nasa execom na ng Malacanang. Election kasi so tigil muna. I do deliver 20 liter carbouys for free. (yung delivery lang ha)

[altec]

http://philstar.com/philstar/News200406112604.htm
Alternatives to crude oil
GOTCHA By Jarius Bondoc
The Philippine Star 06/11/2004

"We are again in the throes of a fuel crisis," reader Manuel C. Diaz reacts to my series on terrorism-triggered price surges. "We cannot solve our fuel dependency by demonstrating every time OPEC increases prices." An engineer, Diaz has long been espousing the use of ethanol from sugar cane as alternative fuel. To be sure, ethanol is now in use in five South American countries, among them producers of petroleum and natural gas like Venezuela and Chile.

Diaz explains the process: "We can replace gasoline with 10-percent ethanol, or E10 reformulated fuel. This will save us at least $120 million a year as import substitution, and also decrease pollution. We should start putting up ethanol plants in our sugar mills, instead of crying in the streets for lower fuel prices."

There’s another alternative, Diaz adds: "We can produce bio-diesel from crude coconut oil. This is B20, the standard biolfuel in the US. B20 is 20 percent coco-diesel and 80 percent mineral diesel, which also is low on pollution."

President Gloria Arroyo has in fact ordered coconut authorities to perfect their production of coco-diesel instead of wasting time on short-term projects for farmers. Last year, she ordered all government agencies to use at least one percent of coco-diesel on their vehicles. The aim is to bring down the cost of producing it from the present P60 per liter to rates lower than imported fuels.

But Diaz says the coco-diesel presently being promoted by industry leaders is toxic because methanol-based. It is no different from methanol derived from petroleum. Ethanol from molasses is safe.

So, what is the biodiesel we have right now, methanol or ethanol based? Toxic daw ang methanol based.

[notEworthy27]

what type of fuel lines are we supposed to replace the stock ones with? or will the stock ones be ok?

from what I know, biodiesel is ethanol based. Although I haven't heard of any complains regarding toxicity.

[rsnald]

*altec,
reaction ko lang sa news item... si manny diaz, member or chairman yata (?) ng PIP (petroleum institute of the philippines). kaya parang biased na rin yan for the oil companies. and the oil companies are not at all happy about the biodiesel thing... kaya wag kayo magtaka kung medyo negative ang comments nya about biodiesel. meron kasi ngayon politics about this biodiesel thing.
true, biodiesel is partly derived from methanol, but it is reacted, it's not free methanol. any excess methanol is stripped off during the refining stage. and our local biodiesel has already tested for toxicity and it was found to be non-toxic (I saw the test report first hand, it was done locally on local biodiesel). why? because it is derived from a food-grade substance - coconut oil. just giving you the hard facts.

[notEworthy27]

No wonder he had a problem against our local biodiesel. It must be really hard for him..

rsnald, thanks for the info. now I know. :D

[altec]

thanks, rsnald. Yung 5% inclusion would effectively increase the diesel fuel cost by how much per liter of diesel? Pero would you say this extra cost is offset partly or wholly with better fuel economy?