Biodiesel users info

**Djerms** · January 29th, 2004 08:08 AM

Hi guys! Need your help once more...

My brother is doing this thesis on biodiesel...If its really and advantage or not, and he needs the inputs of us users here sa tsikot. He is having a hard time running this survey coz most of the motorists still doesnt know this product. Kindly give me naman ur inputs:

Name: (real name)
Occupation:
Vehicle driven:
Biodiesel used since?
Effects of biodiesel:
Do we still need it since our fuel here in the Phils are now less sulfur?

Nga pala, we both read a study on biodiesel at the site of betan calibration and from what we've read, parang negative ang effects nito contrary to what other sites say. http://betancalibration.com/whatsnew.htm
What can you say about this?

Thanks in advance:D

**HBOY** · January 29th, 2004 10:05 AM

wanna know more about biodiesel and alternative diesels.. check this site out.

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751

Name: (real name): Mike
Occupation: IT Specialist
Vehicle driven: 1979 MB 300TD
Biodiesel used since? Since the tsikot anniv/eb sa fort
Effects of biodiesel: Smoother engine idle, better response (Seat of the pants feel)
Do we still need it since our fuel here in the Phils are now less sulfur? Yes. To bring down the cost!. ehehe

**Djerms** · January 29th, 2004 02:17 PM

Thanks HBOY. Aside from the cost ofcommercial diesel, what other factors can you enumerate for biodiesel to be significant here in the philippines? Is it superior to the low sulfur diesels in the market? Ang argument kasi ng bro ko is that its significant pero marami ang nagsasabi sa kanya na hindi na raw since we now have "less sulfur diesels" in the market (environmental aspect).

**HBOY** · January 29th, 2004 02:56 PM

aside from the cost.... it will help our farmers... especially those with coconut plantations... why?.. eto ang source ng biodiesel... in other countries they use rapeseed (UK).. dito sa atin.. abundant ang biodiesel.. imagine if we can tap that resource and commercialize it!.... we have buko juice as well as buko-diesel.. este biodiesel... our need to import our supplies will be lessened, hence less burden to the public.. especially to the jeepney and bus drivers na reklamo na lang ng reklamo with the rising gas prices.

Now if you want to recycle things.. then go WVO (Waste Veggie oil).. meaning ang pinaglutuan... itetreat mo (with some chemicals, nilagay dun sa forum kung ano kailangan, at pwedeng DIY) imagine that... you can have your own diesel brewery at home.

I am not a chemist.. so i cannot really justify the difference between regular diesel and biodiesel.. i would think that it would be better if you get a breakdown of both.. and then from there formulate the result of the research.

I tried goign almost 100% biodiesel.. when i almost ran out of regular diesel hehehe.. tinamad bumili.. kaya kinarga ko na lang yung natitirang 10L sa carryboy ko.. ayun.. ganda ng hatak.. for my old car.. ramdam ang difference.. duno nga lang sa mga bagong diesels.

All these are based on my experience.. no scientific proof whatsoever... i am just glad biodiesel is here.. kasi nga mas maganda/masaya ang takbo ng kotse ko dun.

**mikey177** · January 29th, 2004 02:58 PM

Name: Michael
Occupation: Web Developer
Vehicle driven: Kia Sedona M/T 2002 model
Biodiesel used since? October 2003
Effects of biodiesel: Virtual elimination of white smoke emissions. Peppy engine response. Recently had my 25,000km PMS and asked the casa to check whether the fuel filter already had to be replaced --malinis pa daw. Exclusvely used with SeaOil low-sulfur "pure diesel" at a 5% blend, always from the same service station (SeaOil EDSA near corner Quezon Avenue).
Do we still need it since our fuel here in the Phils are now less sulfur? From what I understand in past threads here on this topic, biodiesel adds lubricity to the engine, which is needed since low-sulfur diesel has reduced lubricity (diesel experts, please correct me if i'm wrong). Aside from this reason, I feel we still need biodiesel to further improve the quality of diesel engine emissions, as it seems to be a more environment-friendly fuel than regular diesel.

**Doc Diesel** · January 29th, 2004 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Djerms
Nga pala, we both read a study on biodiesel at the site of betan calibration and from what we've read, parang negative ang effects nito contrary to what other sites say. http://betancalibration.com/whatsnew.htm
What can you say about this?

Thanks in advance:D

Name: Anthony Jamias
Occupation: On the lookout....
Vehicle driven: Mitsu. Adventure 2k3 SS dati...
Biodiesel used since? Only used it for 3 months.
Effects of biodiesel: Very good acceleration, smoke, emission.
Do we still need it since our fuel here in the Phils are now less sulfur? N/A, nasa US of A na ako.

Djerms,
All the articles in our whats new page are articles which we borrowed from several websites and very reliable sources with their permission. It is not our own finding or conclusion. But based on my personal experience, I'd give it a two thumbs up.

Doc Diesel

**Djerms** · January 29th, 2004 03:23 PM

Doc Diesel,
So ok for you ang biodiesel? You reply will be very significant to this report since you are in the calibration industry...thanks

**garyq** · January 29th, 2004 04:32 PM

Name: Gary David QUizon
Occupation: Businessman/ECEngineer
Vehicle driven: 3.1L Tdi LWB Isuzu Trooper UBS69
Biodiesel used since - 3rd quarter of 2003
Effects of biodiesel: lower K factor (opacity) i.e lower harmful emissions. (40-50%lower). Low SUlfur Diesel + B5 BD.

Do we still need it since our fuel here in the Phils are now less sulfur?One thing for sure, we don't have to shun it. We have to continue developing it because the raw materials are biodegradable, renewable, non-toxic and most of all, locally AVAILABLE. Imagine if we can replace just a small part of the total volume diesel we consume, gaganda price ng copra and we can contribute in alleviating the poverty in the countryside. Suntok sa buwan but we have to start somewhere. Huli tayo lagi (3rd world country kasi). Sa Europe they are using this for several years na. Low sulfur Diesel suffer from low lubricity so they have to add additives to solve this. BD can increase lubricity dramatically even at 1%. IMHO

**rsnald** · January 29th, 2004 05:33 PM

Name: Ronald
Occupation: Research Engineer
Vehicle : xwind 4Ja1 engine
Using biodiesel since January 2003.
effects of biodiesel : same as the others, better acceleration, less smoke, sometimes, engine rev is quieter... not all the times. this is kinda puzzling.

pero I can attest to the need to the advantage of biodiesel in terms of engine power and in terms of less polluting effect. eto nakwento ko na kay Doc Diesel via email. I attended the DOE dyno testing of biodiesel last year. test engine was a C240 isuzu. they checked the power band from low rev to redline rev (600 rpm to 4000 rpm). and they also checked the opacity of the smoke coming out from the exhaust. results: 2-3% increase in HP at almoast all RPM's. The emission tests were kinda inconclusive though. dalawa instrument na ginamit nila non. yung isa , lower emissions daw, yung isa naman, higher NOx. meron conflict sa sampling protocol na ginamit kaya di conclusive. But in a separate test done in Japan, cocodiesel does lessen the opacity/emissions. The clincher here is... they compared it vs. LSD (low sulfur diesel).
So I answer yes! we still need it. If you'll go over the site given by HBOY on the biodiesel discussions in other parts of the world, you'll find out that a lot of people are already into this. The malaysians are already looking into this. The Japanese are definitely going for it, if they want to fulfill the provisions of the Kyoto protocol on lowering emissions of cars.

**Dakila7** · January 29th, 2004 07:51 PM

ser djerms,

mga bossing... medyo OT ito dito sa thread na ito, pero saan ba nakakbili ng biodiesel, tagal ko din kasing nawala sa sirkulasyon dito sa forum eh.