BEST Unleaded Fuel: Shell, Petron or Caltex

[khenma0928]

Guys i have 2.0 engine sedan.. Gas up with Petron Xtra Advanced last monday when we took the car from casa... When i drove from lipa city to our place (16km distance) (32km back and forth) i managed to increased FC from 7km/L to 8.5km/L..I used the cruise control when time permits...

Do you think that the FC can be still improved if i change my fuel into Shell fuel save?

My tire pressure is 48psi, what if i decrease it to 32 which is recommended , does it affect the FC right together with changing the fuel? How it will affect? Increasing FC or Decreasing FC?

Which tire should be higher? Front or rear tires?

Thanks..

[dishcom]

Magulo ito. Hehe. Iba iba experience sa iba ibang station. Shell na lang ako talaga. Kasi feeling ko malinis ang mga gas nila.

[jut703]

Sharing my FC with 4 different fuel brands:

1. Shell FuelSave: 8.36 km/L
2. Petron Xtra Advance: 8.33 km/L
3. Caltex Silver: 8.39 km/L
4. Total Premier: 8.33 km/L

Overall Average: 8.35 km/L

My methodology is as follows:
- All figures computed via full tank method
- Testing was done from July-Oct 2015
- Each fuel brand was tested for at least 500 km
- Total distance travelled for the testing was 3,917 km, with 469L of fuel consumed
- All measurements were done in city driving; driving conditions are never the same, but since the tests were done over several thousand km, the variability evens out and we have pretty consistent results

Conclusion: YOUR FUEL BRAND DOESN'T MATTER.
I've said it over and over again, these fuels are 99% the same and you will get roughly the same performance/FC regardless of brand. There is only a 0.7% difference between the highest FC and the lowest FC, which is very negligible.

I also let my brother use my car and I asked him if he felt any difference in power week in and week out, and he said that it all feels the same. It was pretty much a blind test since I didn't tell him what brand of fuel I was using for that particular week.

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[dishcom]

Thanks.

How about engine noice? Or vibration.
May kinalaman ba ito ang fuel brand na gamit?

[jut703]

I have a 1.5L engine, it shows 7.4L/100. So ibig sabihin same consumption lang tayo? I work in Laguna and traffic's not that bad, and most of my route is highway. If ever, that would be around 13km/liter of gas (tama ba computation ko?). I initially thought the consumption is ok, until I saw yours, 2.0 with 7.4/100 consumption...

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I have a 1.5L engine, it shows 7.4L/100. So ibig sabihin same consumption lang tayo? I work in Laguna and traffic's not that bad, and most of my route is highway. If ever, that would be around 13km/liter of gas (tama ba computation ko?). I initially thought the consumption is ok, until I saw yours, 2.0 with 7.4/100 consumption...

Wala siya sa Pilipinas. I doubt you'll ever get the same FC as his.

Thanks.

How about engine noice? Or vibration.
May kinalaman ba ito ang fuel brand na gamit?

Same lang. Didn't notice any difference regardless of brand.

Magulo ito. Hehe. Iba iba experience sa iba ibang station. Shell na lang ako talaga. Kasi feeling ko malinis ang mga gas nila.

Since the closure of Pandacan, Shell gets half of their Metro Manila supply from Total's depot in Manila North Harbor, as well as from PTT's depot in Clark. Shell's Central Luzon supply comes from Petron's Bataan Refinery.

The only pure Shell depots in Luzon are Tabangao, Batangas and Poro Point, La Union, and Pasacao, Cam Sur. For the rest of their supply, they just borrow from other depots. This is the same case with all other brands. Petron and Caltex also borrow from Shell's Pasacao depot in South Luzon, Caltex borrows from Petron in Metro areas that their Batangas terminal can't serve. Etc etc - it's common practice in the industry.

So no, one brand's fuel isn't really cleaner than another. Nagkakatalo lang talaga, sa stasyon mismo - are the underground tanks clean? Does the dealer monitor for water intrustion? This is where the multinational brands separate themselves from the small local players who have very poor standards.

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[maki mi]

So you mean that this is just like fertilizer? Wherein a boatload of fertilizer arrives and different fertilizer brands bring their own branded sacks but get from the same bin? How about Caltex, who claims to have little people in their fuel cleaning the insides of your engine?

[crazy_boy]

So no, one brand's fuel isn't really cleaner than another. Nagkakatalo lang talaga, sa stasyon mismo - are the underground tanks clean? Does the dealer monitor for water intrustion? This is where the multinational brands separate themselves from the small local players who have very poor standards.

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sir jut, so is it safe to assume na pag multinational brand yung station, the underground tanks are clean? kasi may isang station near our house, pero mukhang madumi yung station so never ako nagpa gas/diesel sa kanila.

[jut703]

sir jut, so is it safe to assume na pag multinational brand yung station, the underground tanks are clean? kasi may isang station near our house, pero mukhang madumi yung station so never ako nagpa gas/diesel sa kanila.

Most, but not all. Meron pa ring mga patapon na dealer. Pero in my experience, pag metro stations naman more often than not ok ang wetstock management.


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[crazy_boy]

Most, but not all. Meron pa ring mga patapon na dealer. Pero in my experience, pag metro stations naman more often than not ok ang wetstock management.


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metro manila naman ako sir. nakakatakot lang yung station kasi mukhang madumi e. pero im sure naman may personnel from Shell who checks on the quality every so oftern

[jut703]

metro manila naman ako sir. nakakatakot lang yung station kasi mukhang madumi e. pero im sure naman may personnel from Shell who checks on the quality every so oftern

Saang area? Pwede ko pacheck yung exact station na may doubts ka


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[baludoy]

bro jut, generally mas maalaga ba ang big 3 sa mga dealers/franchise holders nila kumpara sa mga smaller players sa fuel industry?

[weisshorn]

Since the closure of Pandacan, Shell gets half of their Metro Manila supply from Total's depot in Manila North Harbor, as well as from PTT's depot in Clark. Shell's Central Luzon supply comes from Petron's Bataan Refinery.

The only pure Shell depots in Luzon are Tabangao, Batangas and Poro Point, La Union, and Pasacao, Cam Sur. For the rest of their supply, they just borrow from other depots. This is the same case with all other brands. Petron and Caltex also borrow from Shell's Pasacao depot in South Luzon, Caltex borrows from Petron in Metro areas that their Batangas terminal can't serve. Etc etc - it's common practice in the industry.


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I totally agree with sir jut. naghihiraman lang ng produkto mga yan, additives lang pinag kaiba. minsan ang depot sa Poro point ng petron, caltex & shell galing lahat sa bataan refinery, minsan 50/50 from bataan/tabangao refinery. Delivery to davao minsan galing lahat sa tabangao or bataan refinery for the big 3 petroleum company.

[jut703]

Additives lang pinagkakaiba nila. Once the base fuel is loaded, the lorry goes to another gantry where that particular brand's additives are injected.

So for Caltex, after their lorry loads 20 kl of 91 RON gasoline from (for example) Shell's depot, that's when their Techron additives are added.

For the fuel na binibenta sa generics, usually hindi na nilalagyan ng additives.


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[bryan19]

*sir jut703 kung nag papa heram ang petron ng fuel ibig sabihin un mga pinapaheram nila euro 4 na? O hindi pa? Shell ka lang ba pwde mag pacheck how about other station/brand? Gusto ko lang sana ipacheck un PTT regalado kung tama un litro at un ron hehe well must better kung buong area sa fairview lalo na un caltex going lagro nag karon ng issue na kulang un litro nun kaya nag sara hehe

[jut703]

*sir jut703 kung nag papa heram ang petron ng fuel ibig sabihin un mga pinapaheram nila euro 4 na? O hindi pa? Shell ka lang ba pwde mag pacheck how about other station/brand? Gusto ko lang sana ipacheck un PTT regalado kung tama un litro at un ron hehe well must better kung buong area sa fairview lalo na un caltex going lagro nag karon ng issue na kulang un litro nun kaya nag sara hehe

PTT Regalado is one of PTT's flagship sites. Maayos yan. Like I said, basta inside Metro Manila, most likely maayos.

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[leonidkibs]

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Using Shell gasoline for my 2 vehicles.

Ford Fiesta 1.6 ( 95 RON)
Combined : 8.78Km/L

Nissan Xtrail 2.0 ( 91RON)
Combined: 7Km/L

Average of 250km a week ako. Been using shell since nabili yung 2 kotse

[maki mi]

Tried 1 full tank of shell fuelsave, turned out 12km/liter. So decide to shift from Nitro+, kaso kahapon ang haba ng pila sa shell at may pump na bakante, kaya sumingit ako, wala palang fuelsave yung pump kaya ayun balik sa Nitro+. P1.95/liter pa naman difference. dapat maka 12.6kpl ako to justify the diff. otherwise olats

[jut703]

Tried 1 full tank of shell fuelsave, turned out 12km/liter. So decide to shift from Nitro+, kaso kahapon ang haba ng pila sa shell at may pump na bakante, kaya sumingit ako, wala palang fuelsave yung pump kaya ayun balik sa Nitro+. P1.95/liter pa naman difference. dapat maka 12.6kpl ako to justify the diff. otherwise olats

Impossible to get conclusive results from just one full tank unless you can ensure that your driving style and traffic conditions will be exactly the same.

Masyado talaga maliit yung difference between different fuel brands and octane ratings to have verifiable and reproducible results from ordinary driving (which is never identical).

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[bloowolf]

Tried 1 full tank of shell fuelsave, turned out 12km/liter. So decide to shift from Nitro+, kaso kahapon ang haba ng pila sa shell at may pump na bakante, kaya sumingit ako, wala palang fuelsave yung pump kaya ayun balik sa Nitro+. P1.95/liter pa naman difference. dapat maka 12.6kpl ako to justify the diff. otherwise olats

Would be interesting to know a comparative test on both unleaded fuels. Shell did it on their diesels (fuel save vs fuel save nitro +) using identical BMW's from full tank to empty on a continuous run with a break only for sleeping. FS won over Nitro +.

[jut703]

Would be interesting to know a comparative test on both unleaded fuels. Shell did it on their diesels (fuel save vs fuel save nitro +) using identical BMW's from full tank to empty on a continuous run with a break only for sleeping. FS won over Nitro +.

Read this test, super lapit lang nung FC for both. Statistical tie.


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