Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ssalonga]

Although I haven't really checked where to buy these locally, you can start with some of the tuner shops.

Here's a few websites where they sell/feature fuel cells:
http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo...racecells.html
http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/ecfuelcel.html
http://www.atlinc.com/US/racing.html
http://www.amfuel.com/index_start.htm

Ghosthunter.

After looking these over, I think they are over-engineered for my needs. I will look around for those spare gas cans that are designed to bring extra fuel in your trunk. I saw one last christmas at handyman, made in england daw! Maybe I can just adopt those. Medyo mahal yung pang racing!

thanks anyway.

steve

[webmiester]

I recall we were manufacturing fuel tanks here locally na.Im wondering if a latero can make one safely.

So if Im only saving P9000/year, it will take me sometime to payback my LPG system... anyway, I really like the LPG system just the same. Our other vehicles would have benefitted better from them.

[ssalonga]

I recall we were manufacturing fuel tanks here locally na.Im wondering if a latero can make one safely.

So if Im only saving P9000/year, it will take me sometime to payback my LPG system... anyway, I really like the LPG system just the same. Our other vehicles would have benefitted better from them.

about the tank yes the local jeep manufacturers make some good tanks, I will check them out later this month....

As I said, its not for everyone, many guys I know converted even if it cost them more than what they could ever recover. Many 4x4 guys convert so their fuel delivery system doesn't fail in extreme terrain angles. Others just want to contribute to a reduction in greenhouse gases, since LPG presents the quickest, cheapest approach to an immediate reduction of effluents. That's the reason governments everywhere want their taxi and bus fleets converted to autogas and CNG.

Me, i love the high octane rating (103 to 105) and its clean even burn at low revs (something even fuel injected gasoline engines finds hard to do). It makes more torque, reduces stress and keeps the engine clean. It is also very good for turbo and supercharged engines (less knock with greater advance) due to its higher octane and better mixture characteristics under extreme pressure - the reason so many bike and rail dragsters are converting.

For these guys economy was their last consideration; performance, low pollution and longevity of the engine were their reasons -- and I guess as long as you enjoy it and it makes sense for your application-- then you should go for it!

cheers,

steve

[ghosthunter]

If you are on the cheap, why not just find a used scooter or motorbike fuel tank? With a few mods (for mounting purposes) it should do the job well.

[webmiester]

If you are on the cheap, why not just find a used scooter or motorbike fuel tank? With a few mods (for mounting purposes) it should do the job well.

Sounds like an interesting idea...

[edtf]

sorry pero medyo OT ito - but has anyone tried converting to LPG a gasoline genset?

[ghosthunter]

sorry pero medyo OT ito - but has anyone tried converting to LPG a gasoline genset?

I've seen a genset running on LPG... it was designed that way.

[edtf]

I've seen a genset running on LPG... it was designed that way.

mahal eh plus meron na kasi akong genset.

[userfriendly]

sorry pero medyo OT ito - but has anyone tried converting to LPG a gasoline genset?

Interesting.

Dapat pwede same principle naman with a car engine. Sulit kaya? Assuming 20,000 ang conversion, do you use your generator enough to recover your cost? Pero, kung ordinary kitchen lpg tank ang gamit, baka mas mura ang conversion.

[edtf]

Interesting.

Dapat pwede same principle naman with a car engine. Sulit kaya? Assuming 20,000 ang conversion, do you use your generator enough to recover your cost? Pero, kung ordinary kitchen lpg tank ang gamit, baka mas mura ang conversion.

Yon yung susunod ko sana - ok ata kung regular lpg tank. Kung viable yon baka masmura pa mag genset kaysa mag meralco - one thing nakikita ko baka magoverheat yung engine

[ssalonga]

WEb Ghost et al......

Actually I have seen many genset conversions for LPG using the usual LPG tank for burners.....mainly american at mura naman less than US$150.

I also spoke of an Indian company who has the equipment for motorcycle conversions at 11T pesos lang. They make a conversion for single cylinder Briggs & Stratton less than 6T pesos lang.

If anyone is interested just let me know, I can dig up the links and references for you, US and India.

I haven't made a Cost Benefit study yet pero most mobile campers in the US use LPG for their gensets since they already have an LPG tank for the lights, cooker and the even the refrigerator in some cases.

cheers,

steve

[ghosthunter]

Interesting.

Dapat pwede same principle naman with a car engine. Sulit kaya? Assuming 20,000 ang conversion, do you use your generator enough to recover your cost? Pero, kung ordinary kitchen lpg tank ang gamit, baka mas mura ang conversion.

The LPG genset I saw had a small kitchen LPG tank as it's source.

BTW, you don't need to use a car sized LPG conversion kit... one make for a motorbike or even a home made nozzle with regulator would be enough since the genset runs at a constant speed.

[ghosthunter]

This is getting to be interesting!! Sir ssalonga can I get the contact details of the the indian firm who does the motorcycle conversion. If this would be viable then my farm might be lpg powered by next year.

Would it be cost effective? Comparing the cost of fuel against the price of electricity?

[webmiester]

WEb Ghost et al......

Actually I have seen many genset conversions for LPG using the usual LPG tank for burners.....mainly american at mura naman less than US$150.

I also spoke of an Indian company who has the equipment for motorcycle conversions at 11T pesos lang. They make a conversion for single cylinder Briggs & Stratton less than 6T pesos lang.

If anyone is interested just let me know, I can dig up the links and references for you, US and India.

I haven't made a Cost Benefit study yet pero most mobile campers in the US use LPG for their gensets since they already have an LPG tank for the lights, cooker and the even the refrigerator in some cases.

cheers,

steve

The guys who converted my car says they had a motorcycle conversion kit available from Aldessa. Aside from them, Total might also have kasi they convert tricycles.

[webmiester]

The LPG genset I saw had a small kitchen LPG tank as it's source.

BTW, you don't need to use a car sized LPG conversion kit... one make for a motorbike or even a home made nozzle with regulator would be enough since the genset runs at a constant speed.

I think you really need a kitchen-type LPG tank or something a little like it, not like the ones in the cars. Can you imagine bringing a genset to the nearest LPG station to refill?

[impulzz]

meron na bang nag convert ng CRV or vitara to lpg? saan ilalagay yung lpg tank?

[edtf]

I think you really need a kitchen-type LPG tank or something a little like it, not like the ones in the cars. Can you imagine bringing a genset to the nearest LPG station to refill?

Isang point din na raise ko yan when I was discussing this with someone else - I told him mukhang gago naman ako kung daladala ko yung genset para magparefill.

Next question - why is LPG for vehicles cheaper per kg than kitchen type LPG?

[ghosthunter]

Next question - why is LPG for vehicles cheaper per kg than kitchen type LPG?

I think it's tax... or lack of it to promote its wide use. Also less distribution costs and volume consumption. Example, a kitchen size LPG tank is used up in 1 month while a car (which would have twice the capacity of a kitchen tank) would be empty in a week.

[ghosthunter]

meron na bang nag convert ng CRV or vitara to lpg? saan ilalagay yung lpg tank?

I have seen a CRV with LPG conversion done to it ... the tank is positioned at the back area. The owner just had a hard covering fabricated to go on top of it.

[impulzz]

I have seen a CRV with LPG conversion done to it ... the tank is positioned at the back area. The owner just had a hard covering fabricated to go on top of it.

Thanks GH.

i'm thinking of getting a crv or vitara kasi kaya natanong ko. so the tank is in the cargo area. parang may sub ka na dala.